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		After living a very privileged life in the U.K. it will be interesting to see how the royals react to having a convict in their ranks (yes I know it’s not a criminal case…yet)
	 
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 he has to do that every time he looks in a mirror.
fnarr fnarr, allegedly etc .
	 
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		This is going to be fun. Bet he's suddenly found he's sweating again. It's a miracle!
	 
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		I hope Virginia Guiffre rejects any offers of settling out of court and we get to see him face the music.
	 
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		I cannot stand Andrew., so arrogant and detached........BUT, in mitigation, it is alleged it happened in the UK, where the age of consent is 16.  The text send by the accuser seems to suggest she was willing and indeed chuffed that she had 'slept' (what a euphemism...) with the Prince.
    As for the trafficking element I doubt very much whether he would have been aware of that.....simply a close friend (ie JE) providing a good time for him.
   Definitely not an extraditable offence.
	 
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			I cannot stand Andrew., so arrogant and detached........BUT, in mitigation, it is alleged it happened in the UK, where the age of consent is 16.  The text send by the accuser seems to suggest she was willing and indeed chuffed that she had 'slept' (what a euphemism...) with the Prince.
    As for the trafficking element I doubt very much whether he would have been aware of that.....simply a close friend (ie JE) providing a good time for him.
   Definitely not an extraditable offence.
			
		
	 
 Maybe a hanging offence though?
	 
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			I hope Virginia Guiffre rejects any offers of settling out of court and we get to see him face the music.
			
		
	 
 Don’t be surprised if she gets eaten by a shark while having an early morning swim in bondi beach.
	 
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		Dorcus...come on...don't be silly.....
	 
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			Dorcus...come on...don't be silly.....
			
		
	 
 Ok perhaps you're right; how about separating him from his gonads?
	 
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			Ok perhaps you're right; how about separating him from his gonads?
			
		
	 
 Yeah, well that may not be a bad idea....and btw in my whole life that is a new word to me...never too old to learn....
	 
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Maurice Swan
				
			 
			I cannot stand Andrew., so arrogant and detached........BUT, in mitigation, it is alleged it happened in the UK, where the age of consent is 16.  The text send by the accuser seems to suggest she was willing and indeed chuffed that she had 'slept' (what a euphemism...) with the Prince.
    As for the trafficking element I doubt very much whether he would have been aware of that.....simply a close friend (ie JE) providing a good time for him.
   Definitely not an extraditable offence.
			
		
	 
 Did she send a text each time she slept with him? There were 3 occasions- London, New York and Epsteins Island. I don't think the consent age is of any relevance.  Why was she in London and how did she get there?
	 
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			Yeah, well that may not be a bad idea....and btw in my whole life that is a new word to me...never too old to learn....
			
		
	 
 No indeed, quite true Maurice.
	 
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The Bloop
				
			 
			Did she send a text each time she slept with him? There were 3 occasions- London, New York and Epsteins Island. I don't think the consent age is of any relevance.  Why was she in London and how did she get there?
			
		
	 
 Of course age of consent is relevent....the (apparent) text is quite clear...and i have not read anywhere that it happened in New York
	 
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			Of course age of consent is relevent....the (apparent) text is quite clear...and i have not read anywhere that it happened in New York
			
		
	 
 BBC News - What are the accusations against Prince Andrew?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58871849
Can't believe you've never come across the word gonads before. Have you never heard of the Viz character Buster Gonad?🙂
	 
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Maurice Swan
				
			 
			I cannot stand Andrew., so arrogant and detached........BUT, in mitigation, it is alleged it happened in the UK, where the age of consent is 16.  The text send by the accuser seems to suggest she was willing and indeed chuffed that she had 'slept' (what a euphemism...) with the Prince.
    As for the trafficking element I doubt very much whether he would have been aware of that.....simply a close friend (ie JE) providing a good time for him.
   Definitely not an extraditable offence.
			
		
	 
 New York widely reported.
As for the trafficking element you doubt he was aware of that and Epstein just providing a good time for him!!!??
Let the court decide.
	 
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The Bloop
				
			 
			BBC News - What are the accusations against Prince Andrew?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58871849
Can't believe you've never come across the word gonads before. Have you never heard of the Viz character Buster Gonad?🙂
 
			
		
	 
 Have YOU come across gonads before?
Phnarr Phnarr
	 
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		Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59987935
I presume this is because he has not been involved in any of these duties for a long time rather than a presumption of guilt? Innocent until proven guilty etc....
	 
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			Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59987935
I presume this is because he has not been involved in any of these duties for a long time rather than a presumption of guilt? Innocent until proven guilty etc....
 
			
		
	 
 That is long overdue , those regiments had to toast him how embarrassing
	 
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		Fair play to the Queen. People said she would protect him 
Right decision.
	 
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		Prince Andrew stripped. Should prove if he sweats.
	 
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		Difficult to see where this can go now. It certainly looks like they're washing their hands of him.
	 
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		The Andrew formerly known as Prince :hehe:
	 
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 Just checked, if he takes his old man’s surname like us commoners do, especially now he himself is a commoner, so it seems, it’d be Andrew Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderberg- Glücksberg. Not a very common name eh? No wonder he took his grandad’s Louis’s name, Battenberg........erm Mountbatten.:hehe:
	 
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		Is he just dropping HRH so he can claim the name on the lawsuit is wrong and isn't valid 🙄
	 
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			Just checked, if he takes his old man’s surname like us commoners do, especially now he himself is a commoner, so it seems, it’d be Andrew Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderberg- Glücksberg. Not a very common name eh? No wonder he took his grandad’s Louis’s name, Battenberg........erm Mountbatten.:hehe:
			
		
	 
 Don't mention the war!
	 
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			Don't mention the war!
			
		
	 
 At the highest level it really was a German family spat that young British & German lads, among others were killed trying to sort it out (bit flippant that, I know but.......)
	 
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		Video taken in 2010 outside Epstein's place:
https://www.joe.co.uk/news/video-of-...gations-284132
The furtive glances through the partially open door (at the end of the video) certainly give the impression that he is someone who knows he shouldn't be there.
	 
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			Just checked, if he takes his old man’s surname like us commoners do, especially now he himself is a commoner, so it seems, it’d be Andrew Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderberg- Glücksberg. Not a very common name eh? No wonder he took his grandad’s Louis’s name, Battenberg........erm Mountbatten.:hehe:
			
		
	 
 How the hell did you work out Mount batten was his grandfather? :sherlock: :hehe:
	 
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			How the hell did you work out Mount batten was his grandfather? :sherlock: :hehe:
			
		
	 
 He was Philip’s grandfather…..Louis Battenberg
	 
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		Lord Louis Mountbatten was the maternal uncle of Prince Philip.
	 
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			Lord Louis Mountbatten was the maternal uncle of Prince Philip.
			
		
	 
 Louis Battenberg was Prince Philip’s mother’s father. Hence Louis Battenberg, later Mountbatten, was Prince Philip’s grandfather. Born in Austria 1854, died in London 1921.
	 
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			Louis Battenberg was Prince Philip’s mother’s father. Hence Louis Battenberg, later Mountbatten, was Prince Philip’s grandfather. Born in Austria 1854, died in London 1921.
			
		
	 
 Agree.  That Prince Louis Battenburg was.
	 
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 ....."he's one of your own". Updated from West Brom.
	 
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		I hope Virginia Guiffre takes her security very seriously and checks her car tyres and brakes every day.
	 
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			He was Philip’s grandfather…..Louis Battenberg
			
		
	 
 So he wasn't Andrew's grandfather. OK
	 
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			I hope Virginia Guiffre takes her security very seriously and checks her car tyres and brakes every day.
			
		
	 
 And I hope she doesn't visit Paris
	 
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			And I hope she doesn't visit Paris
			
		
	 
 New York Paris Peckham!!
	 
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			So he wasn't Andrew's grandfather. OK
			
		
	 
 I didn’t say he was, I said he was his old man’s grandfather, Andrew never took the Mountbatten surname so it couldn’t have been him..........oh and the little matter that it was about 45 years before he was born:hehe: