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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...x=1649081943-1
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I can't read the article
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...x=1649081943-1
Hopefully. Mentioned in the other thread but Tan has left the club to rot in recent seasons and if we can move on as soon as possible then that would be ideal.
Doubt it.
It will take someone with serious money.
1 of the expressions of interest was probably Sam Hammam.😂
Mike Ashley incoming if he can't buy Derby....
5 bob and a packet of OXO crisps should be enough
are we really losing £2m a month? the last few years we've lost £11-12 million a year haven't we?
We run at a loss because of years of mismanagement at all levels of the football club, a laughable double act of Ken Choo and Dalman at the heart of the club who have other interests and Tan's refusal to spend time and effort in getting proper football people on board. If we are running at a supposed heavy loss that he keeps plugging the gap on, then who's fault is that?
Agreed but not to the extent that we have, especially having been up to the Premier League twice and spent very little in comparison to others in an attempt to stay up. Most clubs debts comes from overspending and "having a go" at promotion and failing to get there, we haven't done that. We have wasted money via Warnock and others because of the set up, which has led to us being in a much worse position than most clubs and only now getting over it. The reason we have wasted so much money is because of a lack of football people that has led to dreadful spending at all levels of the club, and he is the one overseeing all of that. We won't be getting taken over whilst the court case is ongoing anyway but this club in the right hands is an attractive proposition long term. If we became established in the PL then we would get 30k every week, there will be buyers out there in the long term but Tan would need to swallow some pride and take a big financial hit on the sale price as a result of the way he has ran the club over the past eight years.
It's worth a punt for somebody who can finance a push for long-term Premier League football, but it's a gamble and Tan messed up both of his chances, so I can understand his diminished appetite.
yes we completely wasted the premier League money, and we are now operating in a completely different market than we have for years, we need to be smarter and build back up over a few years.
there are signs that the club are already trying to do that, the focus on youth and the activity in the transfer market suggests that lessons have been learned already.
if a new owner comes in, who knows whether they'll be any better?
if tan wants to sell it'll probably be because his other businesses have taken such a hit from covid and doesn't want to keep propping us up.
sadly our losses are fairly unremarkable for this division
I think it would take a more hands type of person or group to achieve long-term results. Tan may have fancied another go, but his business empire in Malaysia has taken a hit, so it makes sense for him to seek an exit. There are a few other things, but I can't mention them on here.
Which all falls on Tan and his lack of getting proper football people on board and not a couple of chancers that to the best of my knowledge have next to no football experience and several other interests to be seeing too as well as Cardiff City.
It is within his interests to cover the losses if he ever wants to recoup anything, but the club has been a shambles off the pitch and an absolute amatuer organisation under his watch for many years so call it what you like but it has clearly not been a priority for him for a long time, can phrase that how you like but the point remains.
We're ready for a change IMO and if it happens I'm ready to look upon it optimistically. There's no reason to believe the new owners won't be far better than the current one. Let's embrace change positively.
No, now you're conflating a couple of different points. I'm not saying the club's been run well, which of course is ultimately his responsibility, but this dramatic "he's left it to rot" attitude (and you're not the only one with it) is complete nonsense.
Although if he'd have left the club to rot we wouldn't have lost 4-0 to Swansea because there wouldn't have been a club to play them so maybe he really is the bad guy :sherlock:
As lovely as it would be to have someone come in and splash the cash I look at so many other championship clubs who have done it and struggle after only for the owners to lose interest.
I’ve got no issue with Tan, a lot worse owners about.
Each to their own but if you don’t think leaving a couple of chancers in charge for the past 5 years is on him and doing absolutely nothing to change it isn’t “leaving the club to rot” and want to describe it differently then that’s fair enough.
I don’t have much interest in going back and forth all evening but I just wish fans didn’t have such an inferiority complex about the club and what it could be if it was ran properly and had a proper set up.
Catchment area and stadium is there, we just need a bit of belief and a proper modern football structure in place, but at the moments we are way behind.
Do you know that for a fact we lose more than all the other clubs? 2 clubs this season have fallen foul of FFP, if rumours are to be believed another 4 or 5 will next season too. Considering FFP is based on losses over time I struggle to believe we’re the worst in the league.
Interesting to see Derby news-sites carrying the story, on the grounds it might affect the sale of Derby.
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/spo...ardiff-6905056
We have cut costs significantly in recent years so I wouldn’t expect us to be bottom, but it has been at the cost of what we see on the pitch due to the mismanagement off it down the years. I said earlier that we haven’t wasted £100k a week on Rooney like Derby did in a bid to get promoted (and credit to them for that I suppose) but I don’t think that makes any difference to the point I’m making about the amateur set up of the club and the fact Tan not showing an interest is the main catalyst for that.
Under Tan the club has been more financially stable than I can recall in my 66 years of supporting the club and, given the number of dodgy characters around from even dodgier countries, it seems ludicrous that some people are calling for new ownership.
Not seen all the accounts, but it looks like Derby, Reading, Bristol. Stoke , Fulham, Bournemouth.. probably Boro, Forest and a fair few others are making bigger losses and we’ve cut costs considerably since then.
However back in the subject of takeover, Im not anti- Tan , but I think he’s run his game now and is unlikely to ever put the money in to make us successful again.
If there is the right owner out there who can do that (a bit ridiculous but say a consortium led by Bale and a few rich buddies or businessman) then why not ?
For all the money Tan put in we are still nowhere near reaching out potential.
It’ll forever be a massive missed opportunity.
Just don’t think it’s a priority for him now and we are desperately needing a bit of fire and enthusiasm from the top.
Knowing our luck the 3 are
Sam the court case
Dai the Dildo Sullivan
Mike half price Ashley
🤦*♂️