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23-04-22, 10:11
Seabird

A British XI

If a British side was picked at the moment, how many, if any, non-English players would be in the side?

Go back 30 years ago and I think the answer would be somewhat different. The flow of talent from Scotland hasn't dried up but there are not many 'stars' about. In Wales I doubt if Bale or Ramsey would be selected but we do seem to have a little quality in depth than years gone by. I don't know enough about the Irish football scene to comment about them.
23-04-22, 10:32
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: A British XI

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Originally Posted by Seabird

If a British side was picked at the moment, how many, if any, non-English players would be in the side?

Go back 30 years ago and I think the answer would be somewhat different. The flow of talent from Scotland hasn't dried up but there are not many 'stars' about. In Wales I doubt if Bale or Ramsey would be selected but we do seem to have a little quality in depth than years gone by. I don't know enough about the Irish football scene to comment about them.

Both Irish entitites are not British per se but I get your drift, old fruit :-).
23-04-22, 10:56
Hilts

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1. Robertson.
23-04-22, 11:52
Moodybluebird

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Originally Posted by Seabird

If a British side was picked at the moment, how many, if any, non-English players would be in the side?

Go back 30 years ago and I think the answer would be somewhat different. The flow of talent from Scotland hasn't dried up but there are not many 'stars' about. In Wales I doubt if Bale or Ramsey would be selected but we do seem to have a little quality in depth than years gone by. I don't know enough about the Irish football scene to comment about them.

I think gone are the days when all the top sides had a large contingent of Scots players in particular. The influx of vast numbers of foreign footballers has put a stop to that.

There will always be players like Bale, Robertson, Ramsey who are good enough to break into the top sides but more than ever they are the exception to the rule. And those English players that make it are usually a cut above their Scottish and Welsh counterparts.
23-04-22, 12:14
NYCBlue

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John McGinn and Kieran Tierney might get a look-in.
23-04-22, 12:23
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

John McGinn and Kieran Tierney might get a look-in.

Instead of who?
23-04-22, 12:24
Hilts

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

John McGinn and Kieran Tierney might get a look-in.

Kierney maybe if Robertson was out. Mcginn is a fine player but dont think hed get in a starting 11.
23-04-22, 12:29
Wales-Bales

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It would be easier to pick a best England XI, and then see if any non-English players would get a look-in.
23-04-22, 12:51
the other bob wilson

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Time was England’s goalkeepers were the envy of the world (at least that’s what the English media used to tell us) but that’s not been the case for ages. However, with no outstanding keepers in the other home nations, I think it would be an Englishmen who’d be selected, but I’m not sure which one.

I think one of Tierney and Robertson would be the left back, but I agree it would be Englishmen everywhere else.
23-04-22, 13:00
lardy

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England were a few penalties away from being European champions less than 12 months ago. The truth is that they're very strong right now.
23-04-22, 13:25
Moodybluebird

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Originally Posted by lardy

England were a few penalties away from being European champions less than 12 months ago. The truth is that they're very strong right now.

Still, as long as they pick Maguire there's always hope they'll not win a big one !
23-04-22, 15:44
splott parker

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Both Irish entitites are not British per se but I get your drift, old fruit :-).

Ireland is one of the islands of the British Isles isn’t it, to be fair to the O.P. he didn’t say a ‘Great Britain’ XI just a British XI.
23-04-22, 15:51
lardy

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Ireland is one of the islands of the British Isles isn’t it, to be fair to the O.P. he didn’t say a ‘Great Britain’ XI just a British XI.

Then you'd say British Isles XI. In this context, surely you'd think it refers to their nationality.
23-04-22, 15:56
Hilts

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Include Ireland. The answers the same. 1
Robertson.
23-04-22, 16:05
Rjk

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Ireland is one of the islands of the British Isles isn’t it, to be fair to the O.P. he didn’t say a ‘Great Britain’ XI just a British XI.

if you start putting Irish players in a British XI you're going to upset some people
23-04-22, 17:17
splott parker

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if you start putting Irish players in a British XI you're going to upset some people

Yep, but you can’t change geography Ireland is the second largest of 189 permanently inhabited islands in total making up the British Isles.........I must stress I haven’t counted them, well, I got to 125 then Googled it:hehe:
23-04-22, 17:41
life on mars

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Yes the celts have been in retreat for some time the greats that come to mind are ;

Pat Jennings .
Nev Southall.
Denis Law.
Best .
Bale 5 years ago.
Giggs.
Souness.
Daglish.
Johnny Giles.
Denis Irwin.
Roy Keane.
Liam Brady .
Mark Hughes.
23-04-22, 17:45
splott parker

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes the celts have been in retreat for some time the greats that come to mind are ;

Pat Jennings .
Nev Southall.
Denis Law.
Best .
Bale 5 years ago.
Giggs.
Souness.
Daglish.
Johnny Giles.
Denis Irwin.
Roy Keane.
Liam Brady .
Mark Hughes.

John Charles
Ivor Allchurch
Cliff Jones
Mike England
Ian Rush
Kevin Ratcliffe
A few Taffs there with a decent shout.
23-04-22, 17:46
AfricanBluebird

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes the celts have been in retreat for some time the greats that come to mind are ;

Pat Jennings .
Nev Southall.
Denis Law.
Best .
Bale 5 years ago.
Giggs.
Souness.
Daglish.
Johnny Giles.
Denis Irwin.
Roy Keane.
Liam Brady .
Mark Hughes.

Chris Pike.
23-04-22, 17:51
splott parker

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

Chris Pike.

Erm....It was a British XI not World XI.
23-04-22, 23:32
Rjk

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Yep, but you can’t change geography Ireland is the second largest of 189 permanently inhabited islands in total making up the British Isles.........I must stress I haven’t counted them, well, I got to 125 then Googled it:hehe:

that's what we call them, yes. it's not what they call them in Ireland
24-04-22, 00:39
lardy

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Yep, but you can’t change geography Ireland is the second largest of 189 permanently inhabited islands in total making up the British Isles.........I must stress I haven’t counted them, well, I got to 125 then Googled it:hehe:

It is a geographical term, yes, but international football isn't done on geography. It's on national boundaries.
24-04-22, 03:22
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes the celts have been in retreat for some time the greats that come to mind are ;

Pat Jennings .
Nev Southall.
Denis Law.
Best .
Bale 5 years ago.
Giggs.
Souness.
Daglish.
Johnny Giles.
Denis Irwin.
Roy Keane.
Liam Brady .
Mark Hughes.

Ramsey and Allen were, unlike any Englishmen, deemed good enough to get into the UEFA team of the tournament in 2016 - Ramsey at his 13/14 best would have walked into a British select team whether it be Great Britain, the United Kingdom or the British Isles. I can remember reading a preview of the 14/15 season in which he was judged by some pundits as the best player in the Premier League.
24-04-22, 05:50
Seabird

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With reference to the thread title, I did have to think what word to use - perhaps GB & Ireland would have been better? Thanks any way for your responses.
24-04-22, 07:50
Taunton Blue Genie

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Originally Posted by Seabird

With reference to the thread title, I did have to think what word to use - perhaps GB & Ireland would have been better? Thanks any way for your responses.

I was being playful. We all know what you meant, old fruit 😊
24-04-22, 10:14
Seabird

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You've got the OLD bit right.
24-04-22, 11:05
splott parker

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Originally Posted by Seabird

You've got the OLD bit right.

I’m glad you never ridiculed ‘fruit’ in these PC times:hehe:
24-04-22, 11:56
Seabird

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No comment.
24-04-22, 12:21
NYCBlue

Re: A British XI

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Time was England’s goalkeepers were the envy of the world (at least that’s what the English media used to tell us) but that’s not been the case for ages. However, with no outstanding keepers in the other home nations, I think it would be an Englishmen who’d be selected, but I’m not sure which one.

I think one of Tierney and Robertson would be the left back, but I agree it would be Englishmen everywhere else.

I saw a picture of the "hand of god" goal fairly recently and the thing that struck me most was what a terrible job Shilton was doing going for the ball. He's barely off the ground. If that was Jordan Pickford or god forbid, Joe Hart they would have got slaughtered on the back pages.

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