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If Everton get relegated they would be for me the biggest club to be relegated to the Championship, apart from Manchester United in the 70’s.
I think it would give the division a huge list and a sense of excitement, and I would argue that most clubs they play would attractive their largest crowds of the season and most of their games would be televised live , giving clubs additional revenue. A Club like us could net as much as £500k from their demise.
Newcastle ? ? ? ? they must be on par with Everton
Man City ( before they were rich ) they were in the 3rd tier not too long ago
538 giving them a 55% chance of relegation
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...remier-league/
I’d argue they are bigger than both Newcastle and Man City ( pre investment)
They're no bigger than Leeds
I hope they do from a Liverpool weekender perspective.
They have spent more seasons in the top flight than any other club, so being relegated from it is a bigger deal than Newcastle or Man City going down imo
I agree. It's not really possible to clearly define who is "bigger" but Everton do just about trump Leeds, Newcastle and Man City (perhaps not anymore but certainly when City last went down) for me. Not least as they are wrapped up in the whole Liverpool being a footballing city thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I actually quite like Everton, but I would love to see them go down just to shake it all up a bit and would be good for the championsip for someone to challenge Norwich's traditional biennial dominance..
Me too, they had ambitions of top 6 this season with all their investment. Looking at their fixtures I reckon they are doomed. Great stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Newcastle have been down to the 2nd tier a few times in my lifetime, can’t recall Everton though. No doubt all the big money earners will be off, be interesting to see how they cope.
According to the BBC website they have spent 500 million since 2016 when the new owner took over?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Not sure how this compares to others in their category of size and expectations??
This is the main reason:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19bluebirds27
I think the main difference between Newcastle going down and Everton is that Everton have spent almost £500 million over the past five years.
I was reading they've spent the amount as Liverpool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Their problem is going to be offloading their high earners.
Theyve made some shocking signings.
They are in the shit.
Spurs going down in '77 was huge as well. What about Chelsea in the 80s?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
That Anthony Gordon is going to get a few of the bigger/plastic clubs going for him. Watched Everton four times this season and he has always been their star man, Gave the Liverpool defence a good run around yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Most seasons overall maybe, but The Arsenal have most consecutive seasons, from 1919 to present day..
Would be up there with Spurs I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
Chelsea, for all their current success wouldn't be considered one of the giants of British football IMO. Traditionally I would say they vied with West Ham for being Londons third team.
Everton really are one of the 'grand old clubs'.
Although they won the league in 1955, Chelsea are very much ‘Johnny Come Latelys’Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
I’m not a Chelsea fan by any means however , their support is far from “Johnny come lately”Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Historically they are the best supported club in London , some of their crowds have been in excess of 80,000.
Have a look at their average crowds between 1946 and 1959.
http://european-football-statistics....eague/chls.htm
Have a look at their crowds in the late 70s/early 80s. I'm sure they were hovering between 11,000 and 15,00 for a home league game. No doubt TLG or Eric can shed more light on this....Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
That was because of hooliganism and every teams crowds were down - navigate the Link for other teams comparisons such as Leeds etc They also nearly went bankrupt due to the construction of the East Stand.
My point is, historical records prove they have always been well supported apart from the period you mentioned.
Chelsea weren’t that big a club in the mid 80’sQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Chelsea v Cardiff crowds at Stamford Bridge when Chelsea were in the second division in the early 80s were
1 Mar 1980 18490
4 April 1981 11569
17 Feb 1982 9710
15 Oct 1983 15459
Everton are premier league royalty. I hope they don't come down to be honest, I've always liked them. I agree they dwarf Newcastle. Everton have never been a small club, they've pretty much always been top tier.
down with royaltyQuote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
The league table will not lie when it’s all done and dusted. Make no mistake, they are in huge trouble, with neither the manager or players to expect anything different. I hope Leeds come down , but it’s going to ramble on for a few more weeks yet. Going to be interesting that’s for sure.
Orf with their heads, especially that tory tw@t Lampard :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
What about European Cup winners Aston Villa ?
Everton have won more but a long long time ago
so how do we decide on who is the biggest
average league attendance ? ?
Newcastle 51 K ( even in the championship )
Everton 37 / 38 K
average league position ( I found this table interesting )
http://alltimeleaguetable.co.uk/wp-c...19-summary.jpg
Everton are ranked 3rd
Newcastle 7th
Everton historical attendance
http://european-football-statistics....eague/ever.htm
Newcastle
http://european-football-statistics....eague/newu.htm
Leeds
http://european-football-statistics....eague/leeu.htm
Liverpool
http://european-football-statistics....eague/live.htm
Man U
http://european-football-statistics....eague/manu.htm
Chelsea
http://european-football-statistics....eague/chls.htm
Cardiff
http://european-football-statistics....eague/carc.htm
And look at them through the eighties and early nineties - I can remember crowds of less than ten thousand at Stamford Bridge during that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Up to the year 2000, Chelsea had won the league once, the FA Cup once, the League Cup once and one ECWC.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I got fed up checking the honours lists of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, Villa in comparison up to the year 2000 etc. Never bothered checking WBA, Derby, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday even Portsmouth because I know their history up to 2000 would outdo The Pensioners. They are the epitome of ‘Johnny Come Lately’s’. Massive crowd fluctuations prove their fans fickleness also, if they revert to type you won’t see the likes of Jeremy Clarkson’s, Jeremy Vine’s, Tim Lovejoy’s (what happened to Watford Tim?) etc arses for dust.
Perhaps, but attendance wise, the support has always been there apart from, as previously stated, the bad Hooliganism days and relegation to division two. Most clubs attendance figures were shocking during this time. Ultimately they are the 6th best supported club in England and probably would be higher if Stamford Bridge held 60,000, when Matthew Harding took over.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
You often hear wags in pubs talking about when they went down to ninian park in the fifties and sixties and there were huge crowds on a regular basis
Either the stats on that site are wrong or these fellas are making it up
Compared to the likes of Newcastle, Sunderland , Everton , etc we are minnows
I don't think it will ever change , Cardiff just isn't a football city and we will always live on our potential sadly
Little known fact, but Stamford Bridge was built as a stadium for Fulham FC to use. Fulham turned it down, so Chelsea FC was formed in 1905 to use it instead.
Like Anfield was built for Everton but they wouldn’t pay the rent, so Liverpool was formedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mario Miethig