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What are the thoughts on the style Morison is going to go for.
Ive heard a few mention a high pressing style.
I just cant see that. Little evidence thats the way we are going.
We seemed to be get everyone back behind the ball as quickly as possible and stay in shape and are quite happy to let the opposition defence have it.
I think thats the plan when the opposition have it but no idea what the plan is when we have it.
I think we will be pleasantly surprised. I have us down to win 6-0 in our first game, with a final points tally of a massive 114.
No doubt in reality Morrison will be sacked in November.
Morison's preferred formation seems to be 3-5-2, so I can't see us deviating much from that. We'll try to keep things tight defensively and not commit too many players forward in attack. Rubin Colwill will be on the bench for most games.
Morison is fixated on tippy-tappy possession-based football, just as everyone else is moving along towards pace and precision. That said, his signings to date have looked promising, so I'm fairly hopeful of some success. I'm still waiting for the strikers to arrive, mind...
If his matches last season are anything to go off it'll be keeping tight and hoping to hit teams on the break
I don't think he's wedded to the 3-5-2, he's talked a few times about bringing in wingers. I think he should be building the team around Colwill, but I don't think he will unfortunately
He talks the talk about style but I have no trust he, or his coaches, are able to coach us to play a passing, progressive style of play. It might not be hoofball but it will be just as boring.
The main tactic will be pass the ball to Bale :biggrin:
You appear to be assuming that we will play exactly the way we did under him last season. Why ? He had to find a way for us to play with the players at his disposal. The team is currently being almost totally rebuilt and the playing style is much more likely than not to change with it. The veiled insult that Morison doesn't know what he is doing is boring and totally unnecessary in the circumstances as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
So what style do you think hes going for.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
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This is probably my feeling too unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Some people seem to buy into everything he says mind, I look on Twitter and see people waxing lyrical about our progressive style of play, the incredible youth development and all our young signings. I'd like to know what Cardiff City they're watching because really it's pretty basic stuff and it looks like he's not that bothered about our youngsters. I think Morison did well last season but some people are just setting themselves up for disappointment
I hope it was just Morison being constrained by the squad last season and we move to a more attacking game with "his" players involved
Pretty much agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
With Adams in the side it will be combative and energetic. Reads like Collins is also no nonsense. We’ve been a soft side for many seasons, perhaps SM wants to add some steel to add flair onto?
I'll be surprised if the side develops a distinctive style under Morison. All of the evidence so far suggests that he will frequently chop and change his team's line-up, tactics and style of play to counteract the opposition. I don't think he's manager who has a particular football philosophy.
There are many teams who play to a certain shape when not in possession, loads in the Prem. Many people just pick holes for the sake of it. I'm surprised by some people that purport to be knowledgeable on the game clearly don't know their arse from their elbow.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Has anyone seen how the under 23s operated under him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Maybe that might give a clue as to how next season will shape up; based upon that set-up.
turgid hoofball, as per the Cardiff City way
When they were on their winning run at the start of 21/22, they were happy to let the opposition have the ball because they had players in the team (eg Davies, Zimba, Evans etc) capable of opening up defences at that level - Connolly and Denham were also very good centrebacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfSiamIAm
They made use of long throws at times, but there was very little hoofing from them.
not always ..there have been some periods where CcFc played some decent football. It's just easier to do the long ball forward toQuote:
Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount
the 6 feet 5 inches striker apparently
From what I have seen so far this season, the Manager has already got his point across with regard to how the players set up without the ball (with the players that he inherited), so in that respect, he has transferred that from the U23s.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It’s interesting to read how well you feel how Connolly did, especially adding in how well he appears to have done at Bristol Rovers. Steve Morrison obviously must have thoughts about Connolly, so I wonder if he will be offered a new contract?
Yes. Thats why combined with weve never seen the high press at all why I dont think its the style we are going for.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Morisons sides so far seem happy to let the opposition to have possession.
Whats the plan when we get the ball?
We did see a high press. Against Swansea. 3 players half heartedly pressed and the rest sat deep in our own half. Probably the worst press ever seen at Championship level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Style is overrated. Just win the game innit.
Out of curiosity, what style do you think Fulham and Bournemouth play? Is it not just a case of them doing defending/passing/shooting better than others?
We don't anticipate that happening ffs!! :getscoat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
They both played possession based football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
Hmm Swansea had the highest possession in the league. Didn’t work out for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount
Alternatively, Luton had the lowest.
I have a lot of swans mates and they all pray for Martin to have a plan B and are alarmed at the stubbornness of the manager not change when it is obviously not workingQuote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
According to WOL he has been offered a new contract and the club have the option to extend for a year as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by KingOfSiamIAm
Didn't work out for them either. They'll start next season in the same division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
I guarantee that you didn’t get into football because of the fantastic shape a team you liked had when they were out of possession. I’m probably wrong here because there are some weird people about, but I’ll say it anyway - everyone bar none first got into football, or any other team sport played with a ball, because of what they saw from players and teams that had possession of said ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
Clearly, as your knowledge increases, you start to appreciate that what you do when you don’t have the ball is important, but I must admit that, well into my seventh decade as a City fan, I’ve had enough of following a team that are more effective out of possession and are so poor at keeping it when they do get it. Worse than that though is that, for nearly a decade now, we’ve been so dull to watch when we do manage to get some possession, so, for me at least, “style”, or the absence of it to be more accurate, has become increasingly important in recent years.
Too often the term ""parks" comes to mind. "Flair" doesn't. "Style" doesnt either. Chopping and changing formation and players may have given Morison the chance to have a good look at players but, God was it boring and frustrating to watch. Comes to something when we celebrate a corner or a shot way off target. As it stands, we don't have a team so style will have to wait until formation and tactics are sorted...if we actually have any tactics other than defend in the first half and try and hit them on the break in the second. A lot of work to do.
Judging from interviews with Morrison and some of the incoming players you can deduce that we will be changing the way we play.
He's on record as saying the reason we played the way we did was due to the players we had. He's said that we've either looked for versatile players to give us options or players that give us something that aligns to what he wants. Also I think Ollie tanner and Ebou Adams said they were excited by the way we are going to play.
You can also look at comments he made about Collwill and Watters last season not being good enough without the ball. All that would suggest high press, lots of closing down, more physicality.
I also think we're going to try and get some pace in the squad. The loanees we had last season had it and both Tanner and Collins have it too.
Whether or not we're successful at it is another question!