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According to the Derby fans.
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/39595-allsop-v-roos/#comments
I think what they say about Allsop carries more merit because the thread was created at the end of April, and their views were not prejudiced by the player leaving the club, as would perhaps be the case now.
all we need now are midfielders who know what todo with the pig’s bladder when the receive it
And a couple of strikers who know where the net is :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
There will be a lot of change quite quickly, hes a good start, as below the rest of the team will need to be able to adapt to a completely different style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
That should read “the onion bag”, to go with the pigs bladderQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Seems to me we need to sign some strikers capable of bagging the occasional brace before the transfer window slams shut.
Ena Sharples knows where the net is better than those we have now! :tumbleweed:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Good call, in fact it was Caldwell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Minnie Caldwell?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
There wasn't as much lauding on that thread as I was expectingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Well, on the first page alone there are four posts that either directly comment about his distribution... "Allsop's distribution has been excellent this season" - or indirectly comment... "Allsop has better feet"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
"Allsop is better for the style Rooney wants to play" (to which another poster replies... "I think this is it").
I'm not sure what the style Rooney wanted to play was, bit I don't remember them winning many plaudits for their playing style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
from memory I think they effectively closed down a lot of games, played with a very low block and prevented many good scoring opportunities, kind of a championship Burnley, a season too early.
I think we can agree that the primary role of any 'keeper is to prevent the ball from going into the back of the net. So when using the word "style" and talking about a goalkeeper, I would assume it's about playing the ball out from the back to defenders or perhaps the 'keeper finding midfielders directly, rather than just hoofing long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
If we want someone good with his feet, then put a bloody outfielder player in goals (maybe not one of ours though)!
All the fuss these days about a goalkeeper and his distribution. I'll take the goalkeeper who is best at stopping the ball going in our net every time.
His stats were way better than our chumps at that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish.
I think ours were pretty unlucky to be playing behind a defence and midfield that would routinely offer up one or two very good chances straight through the middle of the pitch. They both had a couple of clangers in there as well, but largely I would attribute our defensive woes to a lack of mobility in defence and midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Ena had the hair net, Minnie Caldwell a hatQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-en...ip%3d0%26pl%3d
Happy with the two new keepers.
I get the impression splott parker would confuse Stan Ogden with Len Faiclough! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
This playing out from the back malarkey, in the words of Private Frazer “we’re doomed”
Passing square is inviting trouble. The better teams often move it forward in increments but almost always forwards. Of course that involves players moving into space to receive the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Difficult to comprehend that players who devote their lives to the game and make it their profession struggle with this concept.
Not in a swimming pool I wouldn’t :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
I know she did, I very often sent three milk stouts into the snug for her, Martha & Ena.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
We should have gone for Albert Tatlock from the RoversQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
Agreed. Possibly the best keeper I've ever seen was Peter Shilton and he was such a great shot-stopper it was said that he was worth 10-15 points per season to his team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish.
His goal scoring record was crap though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
I thought Etheridge was quality as a shot stopper but he has ben schooled as a wack it down the field artist. The modern game has bypassed people like him. If you are looking for an approach that builds from the back and beats the press then you need a keeper that can hit wing backs or a central defensive midfielder with a 40 yard pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
They didn’t let you in the snug, did they?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Is the Royal Oak still going (I'd imagine it is)?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
If so, when I'm able to break the shackles here in China and I can visit home, I'd happily let you buy me a pint!
:hehe:
Only one table and the three chicks claimed them!!!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
It certainly is and I certainly will:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
That is all well and good if that is the approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
But a lot of this building from the back begins with a goal kick, where the goalie actually passes it backwards to one of his centre halves. That is fine if you are Man City, but we see it loads of times with middling championship sides.
They tend to get pressed quickly, pass it around three or four times (getting nowhere), gradually losing control of the ball, panic and it ends up going back to the keeper, resulting in a goal conceded or the ball being hoofed towards row Z.
We did it against the Derby goalie last season, if I remember correctly.
Now our goalie.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfSiamIAm
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
However, I will say that he did look like a good goalie though, and I remember that he was able to accurately ping/pass the ball to a team mate.
I will just be disappointed if, just cos we suddenly have a goalie who is comfortable passing the ball, we suddenly start passing backwards from a goal kick.
:hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Very, very few teams are able to play short from goal kicks and beat the press. Few teams in the PL can do it successfully and even less in the championship, let alone a team that has played hoofball for the last decade.
I’d rather see our midfielders comfortable in possession first.
Let’s walk before we can run.