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Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec
Is a panelist on Question Time. Could be a good watch.
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Watching him now. Straight talking and has given a very good account of himself this week. Very capable.
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Straight away Bruce cuts him short.
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The audience seems very Toryish
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Pearcey3
The audience seems very Toryish
Very cuntish.
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Harry Paget Flashman
Very cuntish.
Well quite
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Pearcey3
The audience seems very Toryish
The panel is a bit more balanced though.
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The Bloop
The panel is a bit more balanced though.
Yep
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The Brexit questions will be interesting...Bob Crow was very pro-leave
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Christ. This audience really has been handpicked. Some absolute bell-ends.
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Pearcey3
Christ. This audience really has been handpicked. Some absolute bell-ends.
Yeah but the dinosaurs......
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What the hell is wrong with old people in this country.
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Doucas
What the hell is wrong with old people in this country.
So many of them are selfish pcunts.
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Pearcey3
Christ. This audience really has been handpicked. Some absolute bell-ends.
Bloody bell ends with their opinions different from my own!
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Doucas
What the hell is wrong with old people in this country.
we have seen the '70's before
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+ the native hipster
we have seen the '70's before
Have you been completely asleep during 2010s and completely unaware of life for young working people now?
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JamesWales
Bloody bell ends with their opinions different from my own!
Shock horror that the trade union want a deal to try and reduce the huge downward spiral in their real terms living conditions. Its staggering that anyone could argue against it.
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Pearcey3
Shock horror that the trade union want a deal to try and reduce the huge downward spiral in their real terms living conditions. Its staggering that anyone could argue against it.
JW did last night. He even tried suggesting that the lowest paid workers are much better off than a decade ago.....
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Eric the Half a Bee
JW did last night. He even tried suggesting that the lowest paid workers are much better off than a decade ago.....
Well someone said no one was better off, to which I proved that the minimum wage rises in the last decade have gone up twice as fast as inflation.
If only you lot could eliminate economic facts and anyone with different opinions, then finally you would be happy! :hehe:
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Eric the Half a Bee
JW did last night. He even tried suggesting that the lowest paid workers are much better off than a decade ago.....
Then he is fukking clueless. Has he heard about food banks and the explosion in their numbers in the past 12 years?
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Doucas
Have you been completely asleep during 2010s and completely unaware of life for young working people now?
i have noticed that jobs in bristol pay more because firms dont want to come to wales because mmm4 every youngster in the workforce has/ had / the same problems you are nothing special .
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Pearcey3
Then he is fukking clueless. Has he heard about food banks and the explosion in their numbers in the past 12 years?
Here you go.
Well, sorry to bring some facts to the table, but the minimum wage was £6.19 in 2012. It's £9.50 now. Thats an increase of 53%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998
We can add a little from the last few months, but Inflation from 2012 to 2021 was 25%.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/mone...ion-calculator
No one disputes the global financial crisis, then a pandemic then a war in Europe don't impact on things. They do. It's been fkn tough, but the solution isn't to give everyone 10% more money. You may want to support the union on ideological ground but you know that in your heart it isn't the answer for the country as a whole.
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Doucas
Amazed to find out you follow left wing polemicists on twitter who share out of context clips to their echo chambers.
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+ the native hipster
i have noticed that jobs in bristol pay more because firms dont want to come to wales because mmm4 every youngster in the workforce has/ had / the same problems you are nothing special .
Nah you're talking rubbish. When has housing, gas and electric and petrol been this expensive? Millenials currently have around 7% of wealth compared to 22% boomers had at the same age (https://fortune.com/2022/03/22/mille...llion-boomers/).
Your generation just deny deny and deny that there are any issues and then act shocked when people begin to strike.
I honestly think lead paint has ****ed your heads.
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JamesWales
Amazed to find out you follow left wing polemicists on twitter who share out of context clips to their echo chambers.
Out of context? She is literally comparing rail strikes to dinosaurs. She is clearly thick as shit.
Do you even know what a hashtag is?
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JamesWales
Here you go.
Well, sorry to bring some facts to the table, but the minimum wage was £6.19 in 2012. It's £9.50 now. Thats an increase of 53%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998
We can add a little from the last few months, but Inflation from 2012 to 2021 was 25%.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/mone...ion-calculator
No one disputes the global financial crisis, then a pandemic then a war in Europe don't impact on things. They do. It's been fkn tough, but the solution isn't to give everyone 10% more money. You may want to support the union on ideological ground but you know that in your heart it isn't the answer for the country as a whole.
You aren't considering the whole picture there - someone on minimum wage is likely to also have benefits that they need in order to be able to live (because we effectively subsidise businesses to pay workers poorly, basically a tax break for the business owners). So you'd need to look at both aspects of someones salary.
Additionally the effective inflation rate for someone on minimum wage is not the same as the inflation rate that the bank of england calculates. It has been shown that they face far higher inflation, as the things that have risen the most (energy, food etc) take up a far higher proportion of their overall spend.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Here you go.
Well, sorry to bring some facts to the table, but the minimum wage was £6.19 in 2012. It's £9.50 now. Thats an increase of 53%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998
We can add a little from the last few months, but Inflation from 2012 to 2021 was 25%.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/mone...ion-calculator
No one disputes the global financial crisis, then a pandemic then a war in Europe don't impact on things. They do. It's been fkn tough, but the solution isn't to give everyone 10% more money. You may want to support the union on ideological ground but you know that in your heart it isn't the answer for the country as a whole.
Big deal. These pay rises are peanuts. That doesn’t make people on a minimum wage much better off at all. They remain on very basic wages and in many cases still reliant on food banks.
Would you be comfortably off working for £9:50 an hour? Do you think anyone can live comfortably off that? How can they afford a mortgage on these kind of figures?
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JamesWales
Well someone said no one was better off, to which I proved that the minimum wage rises in the last decade have gone up twice as fast as inflation.
If only you lot could eliminate economic facts and anyone with different opinions, then finally you would be happy! :hehe:
It only proves that the minimum wage was shit to begin with and has also brought people on minimum wage into paying income tax. What the government gives with one hand, it takes with another. (That's not a Tory dig as it applies to all governments)
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Pearcey3
Big deal. These pay rises are peanuts. That doesn’t make people on a minimum wage much better off at all. They remain on very basic wages and in many cases still reliant on food banks.
Would you be comfortably off working for £9:50 an hour? Do you think anyone can live comfortably off that? How can they afford a mortgage on these kind of figures?
Aye, but they've increased!
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Doucas
Have you been completely asleep during 2010s and completely unaware of life for young working people now?
sorry , i don't understand how you think my life was milk and honey at your age , your nothing special life's shit get used to it.
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Doucas
Out of context? She is literally comparing rail strikes to dinosaurs. She is clearly thick as shit.
Do you even know what a hashtag is?
**** me sideways :hehe: It's a metaphor! She's not literally calling them dinosaurs. That twitter account is away with the fairies (and no, i dont mean that literally..)
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+ the native hipster
sorry , i don't understand how you think my life was milk and honey at your age , your nothing special life's shit get used to it.
There we are. The "get over it" message, despite the fact that young people are now worse off than their parents or grandparent. "Get over it" is also code for "I'm alright".
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Eric the Half a Bee
There we are. The "get over it" message, despite the fact that young people are now worse off than their parents or grandparent. "Get over it" is also code for "I'm alright".
of course young people are worse off than their parents , here you go 16yr old a £200,000 job
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Eric the Half a Bee
It only proves that the minimum wage was shit to begin with and has also brought people on minimum wage into paying income tax. What the government gives with one hand, it takes with another. (That's not a Tory dig as it applies to all governments)
It's also proved that the very lowest paid have had rises twice the rate of inflation, which is the opposite of what you said yesterday.
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+ the native hipster
sorry , i don't understand how you think my life was milk and honey at your age , your nothing special life's shit get used to it.
That's not the point people are making though. The major expense in anybody's life is shelter and that is rampantly out of control, it wasn't back then. It would make a huge difference to me if my rent was even a quarter cheaper, it won't ever happen because the government has to protect house prices like they are it's firstborn.
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Surprised the Brexit guy talked a bit of sense. The Tory cabinet woman looked bewildered and totally out of her depth, a fitting advert for the Tory cabinet.
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Eric the Half a Bee
There we are. The "get over it" message, despite the fact that young people are now worse off than their parents or grandparent. "Get over it" is also code for "I'm alright".
also my grandparents worked for tuppence ha'penny a week so you are way off
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JamesWales
It's also proved that the very lowest paid have had rises twice the rate of inflation, which is the opposite of what you said yesterday.
Why is the past relevant at all? Right now, is somebody able to live off minimum wage no matter where they live in the UK.
My guess is that a single male on minimum wage living in my area would be completely ****ed.
Is that good? Is it worth performing mental and statistical gymnastics every night on a Cardiff message board to stick up for that situation?
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Dave Blue
Surprised the Brexit guy talked a bit of sense. The Tory cabinet woman looked bewildered and totally out of her depth, a fitting advert for the Tory cabinet.
They all harp on about democracy but are shite scared to speak out or even say the truth or the clown will get rid of them in a heart beat
It's been refreshing to see Mick Lynch time after time call out and make whoever has been trust in front of him look complete and utter idiots whether it's the so called media elite Kay Burley, Piers Morgan etc or any of the Tory lap dogs who like said above all look bewildered and totally out of their depth.