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		https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/m...rmers-24559024
Do Bangladeshi taxi drivers have a particular objection to farm subsidies?
	 
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 That's a really bad report with a quote that appears bizarre but seems to referring to his Riverside constituents. The whole piece is a mess and badly written. The quote from Drakeford does detract from the really positive environmental story behind this but I really don't think that's his fault.
	 
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		On principle I agree with Drakeford, every piece of expenditure should be justified to tax payers. To be honest, I wish he would say things like that more often. That said, it's a little tactless and that he chooses to say it now does lead him to accusations of his priorities lying away from farmers. Why not say it to Welsh language campaigners that their funding will need to be justifiable to tax payers in Flintshire, or why not say funding on free school meals will need to be justified to parentless families etc etc etc? It's a bit divisive.
He's an oddball that I can't take to, but the principle is right though, and I also think that it's good we can manage farming subsidies better now than under the CAP - remember when people said Brexit would remove powers from the senedd? And here we have our elected first minister determining how funding should be allocated - and rightly so.
	 
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			That's a really bad report with a quote that appears bizarre but seems to referring to his Riverside constituents. The whole piece is a mess and badly written. The quote from Drakeford does detract from the really positive environmental story behind this but I really don't think that's his fault.
			
		
	 
 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62258709
The report on the BBC News website has the full quote. It is a bizarre thing for him to have said, unless everyone who lives in Riverside is a Bangladeshi taxi driver.
	 
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 Fair enough. Agree.
	 
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			On principle I agree with Drakeford, every piece of expenditure should be justified to tax payers. To be honest, I wish he would say things like that more often. That said, it's a little tactless and that he chooses to say it now does lead him to accusations of his priorities lying away from farmers. Why not say it to Welsh language campaigners that their funding will need to be justifiable to tax payers in Flintshire, or why not say funding on free school meals will need to be justified to parentless families etc etc etc? It's a bit divisive.
He's an oddball that I can't take to, but the principle is right though, and I also think that it's good we can manage farming subsidies better now than under the CAP - remember when people said Brexit would remove powers from the senedd? And here we have our elected first minister determining how funding should be allocated - and rightly so.
			
		
	 
 Not that I want to but I can't argue with that. Good post. Have a fab day Mr J!
	 
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JamesWales
				
			 
			On principle I agree with Drakeford, every piece of expenditure should be justified to tax payers. To be honest, I wish he would say things like that more often. That said, it's a little tactless and that he chooses to say it now does lead him to accusations of his priorities lying away from farmers. Why not say it to Welsh language campaigners that their funding will need to be justifiable to tax payers in Flintshire, or why not say funding on free school meals will need to be justified to parentless families etc etc etc? It's a bit divisive.
He's an oddball that I can't take to, but the principle is right though, and I also think that it's good we can manage farming subsidies better now than under the CAP - remember when people said Brexit would remove powers from the senedd? And here we have our elected first minister determining how funding should be allocated - and rightly so.
			
		
	 
 Has he justified the £33m that the Senedd are to spend on reducing the general speed limit to 20mph next year?
	 
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		He's clever how he makes out both he and Bangladeshi taxi drivers live in the same part of Cardiff. True, it's all 'Riverside', but I doubt many of those taxi drivers live in leafy Pontcanna with him and his Taffia chums..
	 
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		Thought it was odd when I heard it yesterday.  
I eventually thought it was a thinly veiled reference to the effects of flooding in the taxi drivers' homeland, and how planting some trees will alleviate climate change and the devastating floods Bangladesh experiences every year. If he wants to justify to some taxi drivers they should be paying their taxes then that's not the way to do it. If Mr Drakeford knows that some of them don't pay then he only has to report them to HMRC.
	 
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		Drakeford is a knackered old horse , he needs to be taken down the road
	 
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 They don't know yet as they don't listen to him anyway.
However he hopes his Uber rating shoots up soon .  
I think he realises he's pissed off taxi drivers with the  20mph and now wants to reach out to them by  providing farm  subsidies to enable small farms to be grow on the roofs of their cabs ...
The man needs to think out of his box
	 
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		Senile old prick. Are all taxi drivers Bangladeshi then?
	 
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Citizen's Nephew
				
			 
			That's a really bad report with a quote that appears bizarre but seems to referring to his Riverside constituents. The whole piece is a mess and badly written. The quote from Drakeford does detract from the really positive environmental story behind this but I really don't think that's his fault.
			
		
	 
 Not his fault? I’m assuming he used the words Bangladeshi taxi drivers other wise why they would quote him?
No offence but holding up a taxi driver as the bastion of tax paying and what taxes are spent on is a ridiculous own goal in itself.
Nevermind about farming in wales, arguably one of the country’s biggest assets, what about the taxes of those Bangladeshi taxi drivers in a small part of the capital.
	 
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			Senile old prick. Are all taxi drivers Bangladeshi then?
			
		
	 
 It's very offensive and I am surprised he hasn't been pulled up for it
	 
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J R Hartley
				
			 
			Not his fault? I’m assuming he used the words Bangladeshi taxi drivers other wise why they would quote him?
No offence but holding up a taxi driver as the bastion of tax paying and what taxes are spent on is a ridiculous own goal in itself.
Nevermind about farming in wales, arguably one of the country’s biggest assets, what about the taxes of those Bangladeshi taxi drivers in a small part of the capital.
			
		
	 
 Whoa! LeningradCowboy linked a BBC article with the whole quote and I replied 
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			Fair enough. Agree.
			
		
	
  as I'm not going to defend the indefensible. I even agreed with JamesWales so even I knew it was bad! I just couldn't follow the WOL article as all the adverts and bad grammar **** with my ageing, brain-damaged eyes so enough of your ableist, ageist discrimination you f*cking fly-fisher person! :hehe:
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			It's very offensive and I am surprised he hasn't been pulled up for it
			
		
	 
 can you imagine if Boris has said the same thing, the internet would have melted
	 
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			can you imagine if Boris has said the same thing, the internet would have melted
			
		
	 
 He did, much worse in fact, and the internet probably did melt.
	 
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Tuerto
				
			 
			He did, much worse in fact, and the internet probably did melt.
			
		
	 
 you do realise one of the CCMB fact checkers will be tippy tapping away to check and bring back evidence right now
	 
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blue matt
				
			 
			you do realise one of the CCMB fact checkers will be tippy tapping away to check and bring back evidence right now
			
		
	 
 I think that Drakeford is trying to make the distinction between complete opposites, socially, economically and ethnically. I don't know why he decided to say what he said, it's clumsy, although the point (if i'm reading it correctly) is that decisions made for the benefit of one group have to be fair to everyone, including Bangladeshi cab drivers in his constituency.
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			It's very offensive and I am surprised he hasn't been pulled up for it
			
		
	 
 So you’ve called someone a senile old prick then have the nerve to say his remark was offensive?  Words fail me.
	 
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Dave Blue
				
			 
			So you’ve called someone a senile old prick then have the nerve to say his remark was offensive?  Words fail me.
			
		
	 
 Actually, it was that nice man from the Yellow Pages adverts back in the day (who I'm strongly suspecting is not the same person but a clever Multi) wot said it!
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Edit: wrote it. The man in the Yellow Pages ads never said that kind of thing. That mean JR Hartley poster, he's ruthless I tell you.
	 
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			So you’ve called someone a senile old prick then have the nerve to say his remark was offensive?  Words fail me.
			
		
	 
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			Drakeford is a knackered old horse , he needs to be taken down the road
			
		
	
 which I think deserves people's wrath too. I'd do it myself but I've already got my work cut out with JR.
	 
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Citizen's Nephew
				
			 
			Whoa! LeningradCowboy linked a BBC article with the whole quote and I replied  as I'm not going to defend the indefensible. I even agreed with JamesWales so even I knew it was bad! I just couldn't follow the WOL article as all the adverts and bad grammar **** with my ageing, brain-damaged eyes so enough of your ableist, ageist discrimination you f*cking fly-fisher person! :hehe:
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 I was reffering to Drakeford :hehe:
	 
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Dave Blue
				
			 
			So you’ve called someone a senile old prick then have the nerve to say his remark was offensive?  Words fail me.
			
		
	 
 You’ve had a mare here Croesy
	 
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J R Hartley
				
			 
			I was reffering to Drakeford :hehe:
			
		
	 
 🤣🤣I did know that really otherwise it says a lot about my self esteem if I think “the f*cker’s singling me out here!” 🦯🦼😎
	 
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blue matt
				
			 
			can you imagine if Boris has said the same thing, the internet would have melted
			
		
	 
 What would Drakeford have said If the farming subsidies had been under the control of the UK Government and Boris had made the same sort of quote,mentioning, say English taxi drivers in Liverpool?
	 
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Elwood Blues
				
			 
			What would Drakeford have said If the farming subsidies had been under the control of the UK Government and Boris had made the same sort of quote,mentioning, say English taxi drivers in Liverpool?
			
		
	 
 Jesus Christ.......two hypothetical scenarios in order to prove a point.
	 
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J R Hartley
				
			 
			You’ve had a mare here Croesy
			
		
	 
 Yes I have but ‘knackered horse’ isn’t much better.
	 
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Tuerto
				
			 
			Jesus Christ.......two hypothetical scenarios in order to prove a point.
			
		
	 
 What point was I trying to prove
	 
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			What point was I trying to prove
			
		
	 
 That Mark Drakeford is a fair minded man and has done a decent job,and that he can rely on your vote during the next Senedd elections. :thumbup:
	 
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Tuerto
				
			 
			That Mark Drakeford is a fair minded man and has done a decent job,and that he can rely on your vote during the next Senedd elections. :thumbup:
			
		
	 
 If I was trying to make any point it certainly wasn't that!!
	 
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Elwood Blues
				
			 
			If I was trying to make any point it certainly wasn't that!!
			
		
	 
 That's my point :hehe:
	 
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Dave Blue
				
			 
			So you’ve called someone a senile old prick then have the nerve to say his remark was offensive?  Words fail me.
			
		
	 
 You dozy plum 
I havnt called anyone a senile old prick
	 
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Dave Blue
				
			 
			Yes I have but ‘knackered horse’ isn’t much better.
			
		
	 
 Senile old prick
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			Senile old prick
			
		
	 
 When people use the word 'old' as a derogatory comment they should remember you only get to be that old if you live long enough!
	 
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Tuerto
				
			 
			That's my point :hehe:
			
		
	 
 It's rude to point