Rematch.
Thoughts. Im going for Usyk winning by stoppage around round 10.
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Rematch.
Thoughts. Im going for Usyk winning by stoppage around round 10.
Joshua goes for the early knockout, gets tired, Usyk picks him off in the 9th round.
Usyk, think AJ will last 7 or 8 rounds, no more. Usyk coming with more power, wants to take AJ out. Not saying AJ got no chance, but if the job's not done by middle rounds, he's out of there.
Would love to see Usyk v Fury but not sure Fury wants any of this guy!
Usyk was very close to stopping AJ in the last fight.
The last round ended 10 seconds early!
It will be interesting to see what Robert Garcia has brought to the table...more than McCraken did I'm sure.
Hard to know what style to adopt for AJ
Either way I think Usyk finishes him rounds 7/8 after a slow start.
McCracken arguably cost him the fight in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Bit of a joke yelling "you're doing well" when he's getting done!
Don't think AJ's got any choice but to trade and I think Usyk has a better chin.
We saw what happened when he traded with Ruiz too.
...am against the grain here....I think AJ will win....maybe a technical stoppage....
Usyk will win in 7 rounds max imo.
Usyk in the 7th, fight will be stopped by the ref. I heard the fight is £26 via Sky Sports ppv. Madness
All you could hear was "Brilliant, AJ".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Odd that he stopped to apparently ask Clifton Mitchell for advice during the ring walk.
I think his chin and his heart are questionable.
He won't be able to get away dancing around the ring like he did in the Ruiz rematch.
I guess that his good solid jab is AJ's best option to keep him outside but Usyks footwork and head movement are just on another level.
His footwork is immense. Not sure if he's done martial arts previously but that's where that kind of footwork normally comes from. It's not something you see in boxing often.Quote:
Wash DC Blue;5334429I guess that his good solid jab is AJ's best option to keep him outside but Usyks footwork and head movement are just on another level.
He can close space fast, AJ won't keep him off with a jab.
AJ's best shot is probably trying to land a big uppercut, it's probably the one shot no boxer is ever quite prepared for.
Fury beats Usyk, he's to big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Joshua is going to have to put it on Usyk in the first half of the fight. Make it a brawl, lean on usyk, don't try and box with a boxer. I think that joshua might hurt usyk early in the fight as he goes looking for him. Problem for me is the second half of the fight. Joshua will gas. He has to do enough in the first half of the fight if he's to win on points, or get usyk out early. My predictions-Joshua TKO middle rounds-Usyk stoppage round 11
My prediction is AJ puts Usyk down in the second and Usyk knocks AJ out in the 4th.
I hope AJ don’t win though because him and Eddie Hearn will be playing dodgems again in the heavy weight devision.
Don't be naiive. Fury does not like southpaw's and he's never been in with one that moves like Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
The ideal scenario for Fury is an all UK fight against AJ and I'm not entirely sure he fancies that really but he knows damn well he has to fight the winner whichever way it goes or he'll get called out for bottling it if he doesn't. AJ is the easier of the two.
Fury doesn't have big power, he'll struggle more with AJ than he did Wilder for sure. If you take Wilder's big over-hand right away, he can't box, he has nothing else. Fury knows AJ has some power and will be able to take Fury's not so hard shots.
Usyk is another problem altogether. A very tricky southpaw with incredible movement, a great chin, and power to boot.
:hehe: Fury gives Joshua a beat down, easy fight for fury. He beats usyk all day and every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
To add, usyk has never been in the ring with someone like fury. Usyk can't hurt fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Very naiive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Let's see when Fury meets Usyk, which has to happen if Usyk beats AJ of course, which I think will happen.
Fury's not the unbeatable god you seem to think he is. He's been a bit fortunate in his career and has been very fortunate previously. Since then, his career has been managed in a way that's seen him select opponents that his team know he can beat. Wilder being a prime example.
He's used Wilder (a fighter that literally can't box for shit) to create a legendary profile.
He's not a legend, he's fought very little outside of Wilder who can't box!
We'll see.
I agree Fury beats Usyk by comfortable UD decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
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Originally Posted by Hilts
Is this the same Fury that nearly got done by Cunningham, and deliberately retired for 3 years in order to avoid the mandatory rematch with Vladimir Klitschko, that Fury?
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
What's so funny?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
At least back it up ffs!
You're funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
We'll see when Fury meets Usyk :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Absolutely. Hopefully you're still about and we can have a little bet :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
I'm down with that for sure, free cash!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
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Originally Posted by Ninja
I think that Fury would be too much for Usyk.
He can move and lay traps arguably as well Usyk.
I don't think it would be a great spectacle...one for the purists.
I'd like to see AJ fight Wilder. I think he will retire tomorrow though.
No way he's retiring, he loves the cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Fury would bully Usyk as well. He's just so big, he can box, fight, move and he's got a chin. His reach is outrageous as is his recovery,add to that, close on 3 st heavier than usyk. I really like usyk and i think that he wins tomorrow, unless joshua can get him early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
You don't half talk some bollocks :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
His chin has hardly been tested, he's been very lucky in that respect.
Wilder never landed flush on him. Had he done so, there would have been no "recovery" :hehe:
We'll see how he handles it when he gets landed on properly :thumbup:
Fury has too much ability to be landed on flush on the chin by the likes of Joshua.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Usyk I dont believe has the power to take him out with 1 big shot.
Fury would stop Joshua easily and would use his size to comfortably decision Usyk.
Neither of that is true thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
He’s got you on the ropes TuertoQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I think that his chin has been proven beyond doubt or at least the fortitude to get up after that bomb from Wilder in the first fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Ummm. Yes it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Fury beats both AJ and Usyk, quite easily in my opinion. They both have a punchers chance (although not even sure Usyk has the power for that).
What bomb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Wilder never at any point landed flush on Fury and that's a fact. He got dropped from glancing shots. Had he been hit flush, he'd have been seeing stars for more than 10 seconds.
If my Grandma had wheels she’d have been a bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
He is so good at hitting and not getting hit,
That’s what makes him a great fighter
Can't disagree with that last line. He likes to avoid any man that can hit him though and that's a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
That rematch with Klitschko was dangerous and he knew it. In the first fight it took Klitschko's corner five or six rounds to figure out what was going on tactically. By that point he was losing on points.
Don't get me wrong, very clever tactics, and they worked.
Didn't want a rematch though did he?
Fury will avoid any man who's a threat, although now it's all about the money.
He knows he can't keep running from danger-men so he WILL eventually fight them and lose his heavily protected "O"... For the right price.
He's obviously more ready to properly retire now and take the money. Fair play to him.
He's mugged off the British public for many years, made 10's of millions, but yet only really beaten a fighter that can't box (Wilder) 3 times, and done a runner from the Klitschko rematch!