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There is no climate emergency
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
You're like someone from 80s pointing out that there's some scientists funded by tabaco companies that say smoking is good for you..
Many of those apart of the global climate intelligence group have links to Koch industries who you guessed it, benefit from the status quo and continued oil production.
What peer reviewed research has this group actually done to show that image change isn't real?
Honestly if you believe this group over 99% of scientists you are thick.
Some more reading on this https://www.desmog.com/climate-intel...ation-clintel/
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
You're like someone from 80s pointing out that there's some scientists funded by tabaco companies that say smoking is good for you..
Many of those apart of the global climate intelligence group have links to Koch industries who you guessed it, benefit from the status quo and continued oil production.
What peer reviewed research has this group actually done to show that
climate change isn't real?
Honestly if you believe this group over 99% of scientists you are thick.
Some more reading on this
https://www.desmog.com/climate-intel...ation-clintel/
Not sure why 'climate' autocorrected to 'image' on my phone.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
You're like someone from 80s pointing out that there's some scientists funded by tabaco companies that say smoking is good for you..
Many of those apart of the global climate intelligence group have links to Koch industries who you guessed it, benefit from the status quo and continued oil production.
What peer reviewed research has this group actually done to show that image change isn't real?
Honestly if you believe this group over 99% of scientists you are thick.
Some more reading on this
https://www.desmog.com/climate-intel...ation-clintel/
I posted it without comment, so I'm not sure why you responded with an ad hominem.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I posted it without comment, so I'm not sure why you responded with an ad hominem.
Is man made climate change real?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Is man made climate change real?
I am currently in the learning and observation stage.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I am currently in the learning and observation stage.
And what is your conclusion?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
And what is your conclusion?
Currently indeterminate.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Currently indeterminate.
Why?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Why?
because he hasn't understood the case for man made climate change
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Why?
Lot's of variables in play. Bad science experience with covid and ongoing politicisation/monetising of climate. Also private jets are still filling the skies, those with huge mansions aren't downsizing, and billionaires are buying homes meters from the sea. As it currently stands, the normal people are about to get shafted, while those above carry on as normal. Therefore I will be doing more research before I cheer on my own demise.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
because he hasn't understood the case for man made climate change
That's the easy part.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
That's the easy part.
No, No, Didn't you get the memo? RJK is more intelligent than you, and he HAS to show you why...
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Re: There is no climate emergency
Anyone should be able to see by now an engineered economic calamity is being made to happen, but few are able to come to terms with the prospect that food and energy will become increasingly unaffordable due to raging inflation, and rolling power blackouts are in our near future, that's with or without a direct conflict with Russia plus China, its proxy North Korea, and perhaps Iran too.
Incredibly, the vast majority seem unable to see it as they continue to be preoccupied with being idly entertained. They will have a dozen grub tins in their food cupboards and a packet of fish fingers and several pizzas in the freezer. "Nobody could have seen this coming," they'll whine. When they clock the state won't feed them they'll presume it's their neighbours' responsibility to fill their faces.
Most won't be able to as they will be similarly unprepared.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Lot's of variables in play. Bad science experience with covid and ongoing politicisation/monetising of climate. Also private jets are still filling the skies, those with huge mansions aren't downsizing, and billionaires are buying homes meters from the sea. As it currently stands, the normal people are about to get shafted, while those above carry on as normal. Therefore I will be doing more research before I cheer on my own demise.
This is crazy. Let's break it down piece by piece.
Bad science experience with covid? What does that even mean?
Private jets still filling the sky? How is that related to whether climate change is man made or not?
Those with huge mansions aren't downsizing? See the point above.
Billionaires buying homes by the sea. Again see the point above.
Normal people will get shafted? Well we had a chance to vote for a politician that would have helped 'Normal people' and he was rejected. I'd bet my house thay there is a huge correlation between those who deny man made climate change and voting right wing who then shaft normal people.
So in conclusion not a single one of your arguments has anything to do with the science of climate change, you just have a feeling...
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Re: There is no climate emergency
Prince Charles , is one of the most vocal people on climate change …… doesn’t seem to practice what he preaches , in a real emergency they would be the first to act wouldn’t they? ( well we know from the last few years they wouldn’t)
https://www.express.co.uk/travel/art...jets-costs-evg
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...k-avoid-stuck/
https://www.independent.co.uk/climat...-b1982113.html
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
That's the easy part.
please then, will you describe what you understand to be the "case" for climate change?
I've asked this several times on this site and none of the climate sceptics on here are prepared to do so.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
I don't know why you think rich twat doesn't practice what he preaches is a good arguement? This isn't a gotcha moment that you seem to think it is.
Can you tell me exactly why 99% of scientists are wrong on this issue?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
I don't know why you think rich twat doesn't practice what he preaches is a good arguement? This isn't a gotcha moment that you seem to think it is.
Can you tell me exactly why 99% of scientists are wrong on this issue?
See below :
http://ossfoundation.us/projects/env...ncing-evidence
Anyone could sign up - even me.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Are you saying man made climate change is real? Because that link says that 31,000 scientists say climate change is a myth but the source of that figure is from a petition that anyone could sign up to.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
By the logic of many here if someone who smokes told you that smoking causes lung cancer that instantly makes it not true.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
By the logic of many here if someone who smokes told you that smoking causes lung cancer that instantly makes it not true.
The covid response would be a much better analogy, and I've noticed many people are transferring their initial covid mindset over to climate, i.e. believing everything coming from the UN, WHO, think tanks, billionaires, big corporations, bought and paid for scientists, governments, TV and the media, with absolutely zero sense of deja vu. Anyway, as with all of these things time will be the great revealer, but unfortunately by that point it will all be too late, as you will have already lost everything.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The covid response would be a much better analogy, and I've noticed many people are transferring their initial covid mindset over to climate, i.e. believing everything coming from the UN, WHO, think tanks, billionaires, big corporations, bought and paid for scientists, governments, TV and the media, with absolutely zero sense of deja vu. Anyway, as with all of these things time will be the great revealer, but unfortunately by that point it will all be too late, as you will have already lost everything.
But it isn't though.
See, I knew you were a denialist and there is no point pretending otherwise. What YouTube rabbitholes have you fallen into to come up with this nonsense?
Do you honestly believe that scientists who say climate change is a thing are paid off?! Are you completely going to ignore how oil companies have been paying off scientists for decades to deny climate change? Do you really believe the billionaire class/big corporations aren't interested in maintaining the status quo. If the people above actually gave a shit we'd have phased out fossil fuels decades ago, instead we are limping along and it'll probably be too late to stop serious damage.
This is beyond, this forum is full of nutjobs.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
But it isn't though.
See, I knew you were a denialist and there is no point pretending otherwise. What YouTube rabbitholes have you fallen into to come up with this nonsense?
Do you honestly believe that scientists who say climate change is a thing are paid off?! Are you completely going to ignore how oil companies have been paying off scientists for decades to deny climate change? Do you really believe the billionaire class/big corporations aren't interested in maintaining the status quo. If the people above actually gave a shit we'd have phased out fossil fuels decades ago, instead we are limping along and it'll probably be too late to stop serious damage.
This is beyond, this forum is full of nutjobs.
I'm not a denialist, I am just highlighting the variables that you need to take into account. They are all political and agenda driven, and have little to do with actual science. In short, they are solutions looking for a problem.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
Strange happenings with the weather in China, Europe and the US. It will do nothing to help tame grub prices.
https://youtu.be/NeL7tKcaadw
https://youtu.be/KXLJ_pSA2LU
https://youtu.be/CyQp5-Bu6lI
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I'm not a denialist, I am just highlighting the variables that you need to take into account. They are all political and agenda driven, and have little to do with actual science. In short, they are solutions looking for a problem.
If we were being driven by the actual science the response would have been a lot stronger a long time ago
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
If we were being driven by the actual science the response would have been a lot stronger a long time ago
Everything will be clear once the end goal is reached.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Clandestine
maybe the festival goers who left all that shit behind weren't the same ones who are passionate about the environment?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
maybe the festival goers who left all that shit behind weren't the same ones who are passionate about the environment?
Obviously that's the case, but that doesn't his narrative. Also really weird quoting Greta Thunberg who I very much doubt was camping there
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Can you tell me exactly why 99% of scientists are wrong on this issue?
99% of how many scientists? 100? 200? 500? 1,000? 1,001? 1,500? 2,025? 6,678? 10,000? 20,000? 30,000? 120,000? 500,000? All known scientists?
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Re: There is no climate emergency
:hehe: watch until the end
https://twitter.com/philmorerobert/s...MMomzTrw7NuKgA
Oh, great acting as well :hehe:
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Thanks for that. It was two minutes of quality viewing.
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Re: There is no climate emergency
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ICYMI: The UAE is leading the effort to seed clouds and increase precipitation. At 9,000 feet above sea level, a plane releases salt flares into the most promising white clouds, hoping to trigger rainfall <a href="https://t.co/Os5xyi8M7V">https://t.co/Os5xyi8M7V</a> <a href="https://t.co/DpKoqTkjlb">pic.twitter.com/DpKoqTkjlb</a></p>— Reuters (@Reuters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1566157834601091075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Remember when this was a conspiracy theory ?
A.T.B
Clandestine
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Clandestine
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ICYMI: The UAE is leading the effort to seed clouds and increase precipitation. At 9,000 feet above sea level, a plane releases salt flares into the most promising white clouds, hoping to trigger rainfall <a href="https://t.co/Os5xyi8M7V">https://t.co/Os5xyi8M7V</a> <a href="https://t.co/DpKoqTkjlb">pic.twitter.com/DpKoqTkjlb</a></p>— Reuters (@Reuters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1566157834601091075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Remember when this was a conspiracy theory ?
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Clandestine
Cloud seeding? The thing they’ve been publicly trying to do since the 40’s? The thing that was famously used at the 2008 Beijing Olympics? No, I don’t remember when that was a conspiracy theory.
I think you’re mixing it up with chemtrails being sprayed to cause harm to the public. Easily done, I can’t imagine how hard it is to keep track of all the bullshit you watch on youtube
A.T.B
Delmbox
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Cloud seeding? The thing they’ve been publicly trying to do since the 40’s? The thing that was famously used at the 2008 Beijing Olympics? No, I don’t remember when that was a conspiracy theory.
I think you’re mixing it up with chemtrails being sprayed to cause harm to the public. Easily done, I can’t imagine how hard it is to keep track of all the bullshit you watch on youtube
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Delmbox
No fooling you Delmy I've found someone who's ahead of the curve
many still consider cloud seeding a conspiracy
when weaning the sleeping from their mothers breasts you have to go through the learning curve 1st
and you've passed :thumbup:
not sure what chemtrails are? I'll google this evening to see what I'm missing.
just looking through your post history you appear quite an angry individual.
Incidentally
Rumble is where its at, YouTube is yesterdays Betamax
A.T.B
Clanders
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Rumble is where its at, YouTube is yesterdays Betamax
you would be more suited on GETTR judging by your posts clanders :hehe:
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Re: There is no climate emergency
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Originally Posted by
Clandestine
No fooling you Delmy I've found someone who's ahead of the curve
many still consider cloud seeding a conspiracy
when weaning the sleeping from their mothers breasts you have to go through the learning curve 1st
and you've passed :thumbup:
not sure what chemtrails are? I'll google this evening to see what I'm missing.
just looking through your post history you appear quite an angry individual.
Incidentally
Rumble is where its at, YouTube is yesterdays Betamax
A.T.B
Clanders
The fact that you engage with people who consider something that’s been completely out in the open since the 40’s a conspiracy explains a lot :hehe:
A.T.B
Fumin’ Delmbox
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Re: There is no climate emergency
Plenty of cracking and difficult to refute footage of aircraft spraying chemicals in this video. The first instance is at the two minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY
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The man the myth the legend.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy is a legend 😆 <a href="https://t.co/Gt50kCU320">pic.twitter.com/Gt50kCU320</a></p>— Art TakingBack 🇺🇸 (@ArtValley818_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1568338056943665154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>