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Truss eyes bonfire of workers rights to boos economy
Hopefully this turns out to be incorrect, she does worry me a bit though does ‘ol Liz
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...nomy-3dmpf0gfg
Twitter thread here if you haven’t got access to The Times
https://twitter.com/i/events/1566052...KsIoF9NTpasTpQ
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It’ll all end in tears, whoever gets in. We’re in for an even rougher ride over the coming years.
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Should have read boost* economy :facepalm:
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You should be worried. She thinks the british work force is lazy.
say what you will about Unions but its the only way to contra a bad work place.
the cons want to make it illegal to strike.
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
It’ll all end in tears, whoever gets in. We’re in for an even rougher ride over the coming years.
I think you're right, i don't think people realise how bad this coming recession will be. People are going to freeze this winter, All so the American empire can attempt to rub Russia's nose in it.
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The way she was digging at Putin and Russia should bother people. She's a dangerous woman, wants to be the next Thatcher and act all tough.
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
You should be worried. She thinks the british work force is lazy.
say what you will about Unions but its the only way to contra a bad work place.
the cons want to make it illegal to strike.
Do they want to make it illegal to strike? Not heard either candidate say this...
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
It’ll all end in tears, whoever gets in. We’re in for an even rougher ride over the coming years.
We don’t need to be, we don’t rely on Russian gas, it’s insane we have to pay through the nose for it. Strange how ours seems to have gone up more than France and the Germans who rely on it more….time to cut Russia out completely if it’s them that’s driving the price hike….
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Lither_1927
Do they want to make it illegal to strike? Not heard either candidate say this...
They might not think it a very good idea to blab about it at the moment. But it is no secret that the Cons want to reign in the unions.You do live there mate? there's a dispute going on at the mo! The railways?
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goats
We don’t need to be, we don’t rely on Russian gas, it’s insane we have to pay through the nose for it. Strange how ours seems to have gone up more than France and the Germans who rely on it more….time to cut Russia out completely if it’s them that’s driving the price hike….
Even though we don't het much gas from Russia directly, sanctions and the war has pushed the global price of gas right up. The French haven't seen large energy price rises because they heavily invested in nuclear decades ago. So, they have a degree of energy independence. All good until they have an unforseen nuclear meltdown and the French food industry is decimated.
Aren't Germany expecting energy rationing this winter?
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ToTaL ITK
They might not think it a very good idea to blab about it at the moment. But it is no secret that the Cons want to reign in the unions.You do live there mate? there's a dispute going on at the mo! The railways?
I don't think any one of the candidates have mentioned altering the law on unions. But let's not glamourise the unions, they brought this country to it's knees in the 70s, people were so fed up, they voted in an extreme measure in Thatcher to smash their stranglehold. It's a balancing act. Strikers shouldn't be allowed to hold a country to ransom
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Originally Posted by
goats
We don’t need to be, we don’t rely on Russian gas, it’s insane we have to pay through the nose for it. Strange how ours seems to have gone up more than France and the Germans who rely on it more….time to cut Russia out completely if it’s them that’s driving the price hike….
We, the general public, shouldn’t be paying the price for a lot that the Tories seem to blame on us.
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Originally Posted by
Lither_1927
I don't think any one of the candidates have mentioned altering the law on unions. But let's not glamourise the unions, they brought this country to it's knees in the 70s, people were so fed up, they voted in an extreme measure in Thatcher to smash their stranglehold. It's a balancing act. Strikers shouldn't be allowed to hold a country to ransom
T O R Y
next time your boss slaps you up the ass and you feel degraded. Good luck
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Brexit was all about ripping up workers’ rights and minimum standards of goods/food etc. These will come in as soon as they think they can get away with it.
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ToTaL ITK
T O R Y
next time your boss slaps you up the ass and you feel degraded. Good luck
I am quite Conservative but i'm no Tory.
National Socialism
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Dave Blue
Brexit was all about ripping up workers’ rights and minimum standards of goods/food etc. These will come in as soon as they think they can get away with it.
And if the public disagree they can vote somebody into power who will improve standards and costs at the same time. Isn't that fair?
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Aaaaaaaaaand another thread goes to shit
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Lither_1927
I am quite Conservative but i'm no Tory.
National Socialism
A world war was fought to defeat Nazis, why is one allowed on here?
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
You should be worried. She thinks the british work force is lazy.
say what you will about Unions but its the only way to contra a bad work place.
the cons want to make it illegal to strike.
Only four posts in before someone writes something completely untrue. Not bad that.
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Originally Posted by
Lither_1927
And if the public disagree they can vote somebody into power who will improve standards and costs at the same time. Isn't that fair?
:hehe:
If the public disagree the government creates another issue that "becomes" more important and brushes the other under the carpet.
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Originally Posted by
Lither_1927
I don't think any one of the candidates have mentioned altering the law on unions. But let's not glamourise the unions, they brought this country to it's knees in the 70s, people were so fed up, they voted in an extreme measure in Thatcher to smash their stranglehold. It's a balancing act. Strikers shouldn't be allowed to hold a country to ransom
Things always change for example the energy providers weren't private entities in the 70s.
A strong but reasonable union is more important than ever.
It is essential that the right to strike is there.
I really hope that the impending financial crisis galvanizes public opinion to support essential workers in a more meaningful way than clapping on a Thursday during Covid.
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goats
We don’t need to be, we don’t rely on Russian gas, it’s insane we have to pay through the nose for it. Strange how ours seems to have gone up more than France and the Germans who rely on it more….time to cut Russia out completely if it’s them that’s driving the price hike….
Boris is using Agenda 30 as a reason to leave our oil and gas in the ground. Him, Biden, & Trudeau are all on the same path.
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Wales-Bales
Boris is using Agenda 30 as a reason to leave our oil and gas in the ground. Him, Biden, & Trudeau are all on the same path.
It will eventually run out. What then? Surely now is the time to start planning for not having fossil fuels?
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JamesWales
Only four posts in before someone writes something completely untrue. Not bad that.
Conservatives pledge to ban all-out rail strikes
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...droidApp_Other
UK Conservative government curtails right to strike
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../stri-j17.html
Grant Shapps: Disruptive school strike should be declared ILLEGAL ...
https://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...clared-illegal
Richard Bingley calls for debate on making rail strikes illegal
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/new...-calls-7377502
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RichardM
None of that is about making it illegal to strike. Changes to strike laws, sure..let's discuss it, but when someone says 'Tories want to make it illegal to strike', well that's just completely wrong.
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Eric the Half a Bee
It will eventually run out. What then? Surely now is the time to start planning for not having fossil fuels?
Maybe develop some new green energy capacity before turning off the oil & gas taps, and freezing all the pensioners to death? Just a thought ...
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JamesWales
None of that is about making it illegal to strike. Changes to strike laws, sure..let's discuss it, but when someone says 'Tories want to make it illegal to strike', well that's just completely wrong.
If you don't believe the Tories want to make strikes illegal for many workers you very naive.
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RichardM
If you don't believe the Tories want to make strikes illegal for many workers you very naive.
No, I'm just sensible.
It's like people who endlessly say the Tories are about to sell off the NHS - they've run it twice as long as Labour. It isn't happening, and neither is banning strikes.
More than happy to have a £100 bet with you on this now for the charity of your choice. There may be tweaks to the law, as there always are, but striking won't ever be made illegal.
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Labour's plan is to freeze energy prices.truss's plan is to freeze pensioners.
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JamesWales
No, I'm just sensible.
It's like people who endlessly say the Tories are about to sell off the NHS - they've run it twice as long as Labour. It isn't happening, and neither is banning strikes.
More than happy to have a £100 bet with you on this now for the charity of your choice. There may be tweaks to the law, as there always are, but striking won't ever be made illegal.
The conversation is about Tories wanting to make strikes illegal. They might never manage to do it but it doesn't stop them wanting to.
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JamesWales
No, I'm just sensible.
It's like people who endlessly say the Tories are about to sell off the NHS - they've run it twice as long as Labour. It isn't happening, and neither is banning strikes.
That itself is very naive.
The Tories have been slowly privatising the NHS, one small piece at a time, for many years.
They knew they could never just go and do it as the entire country would be in uproar. If you have a close look at what is going on behind the scenes though with private contractors being brought in etc, you can see what the w@nkers are up to.
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RichardM
The conversation is about Tories wanting to make strikes illegal. They might never manage to do it but it doesn't stop them wanting to.
Okay..
So if they make strikes illegal...HA! BLOODY TORIES MAKING STRIKES ILLEGAL!!
If they don't make strikes illegal....HA! BLOODY TORIES NOT MAKING STRIKES ILLEGAL, BUT THATS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO!
Essentially, you are gonna believe what you want to believe irrespective of any evidence.
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JamesWales
Okay..
So if they make strikes illegal...HA! BLOODY TORIES MAKING STRIKES ILLEGAL!!
If they don't make strikes illegal....HA! BLOODY TORIES NOT MAKING STRIKES ILLEGAL, BUT THATS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO!
Essentially, you are gonna believe what you want to believe irrespective of any evidence.
The evidence is that they want to make strikes illegal for many workers.
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Ninja
That itself is very naive.
The Tories have been slowly privatising the NHS, one small piece at a time, for many years.
They knew they could never just go and do it as the entire country would be in uproar. If you have a close look at what is going on behind the scenes though with private contractors being brought in etc, you can see what the w@nkers are up to.
No, it's just not true. If you've been told this, you've been lied to, probably by someone with a political reason to try and scare you. The left always say this, but the reality is more public money than ever is spent on the NHS
This is what the Kings Fund charity said in 2021:
"Overall, there is no evidence of a significant increase in spending on private providers or widespread privatisation of services in recent years."
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...rivatised-2021
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dandywarhol
Labour's plan is to freeze energy prices. Truss's plan is to freeze pensioners.
A cunning plan to reduce the annual pensions expenditure?
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JamesWales
No, it's just not true. If you've been told this, you've been lied to, probably by someone with a political reason to try and scare you. The left always say this, but the reality is more public money than ever is spent on the NHS
This is what the Kings Fund charity said in 2021:
"Overall, there is no evidence of a significant increase in spending on private providers or widespread privatisation of services in recent years."
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publica...rivatised-2021
The money spent on the NHS is still nowhere near enough.
And why would I believe the king's fund charity?
I'd rather listen to the number of NHS staff and insiders that have been making such claims for years!
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Dave Blue
Brexit was all about ripping up workers’ rights and minimum standards of goods/food etc. These will come in as soon as they think they can get away with it.
Absolutely true. The real reason for Brexit, orchestrated by the evil puppet masters. The sooner people understand what the Tory master plan truly is, the better. It's chilling.
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Originally Posted by
Ninja
The money spent on the NHS is still nowhere near enough.
And why would I believe the king's fund charity?
I'd rather listen to the number of NHS staff and insiders that have been making such claims for years!
You can believe who you like at the end of the day
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Dorcus
Absolutely true. The real reason for Brexit, orchestrated by the evil puppet masters. The sooner people understand what the Tory master plan truly is, the better. It's chilling.
Jesus wept. They are the government with a massive majority mate. They can do what they like. If they haven't, it's because they haven't done it. Your mind is a maze of fantasies, and not the hot, sexy kind. :facepalm:
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Dorcus
Absolutely true. The real reason for Brexit, orchestrated by the evil puppet masters. The sooner people understand what the Tory master plan truly is, the better. It's chilling.
It's somewhat ironic that Tony Benn and many others on the left were against the UK joining the common market because it is club set up to benefit big business and suppress workers.