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The news today that John Cleese is to host a new GB News TV show where he "had dinner with one or two of the people concerned and I liked them very much" has got me thinking about celebrities or musicians you may have admired in the past who turned out to be a tory loving right-wing conspiracy loving nut.
Aside from Cleese above I'll start with Morrissey, Rod Stewart, Ian Brown and Trump loving John Lydon
Isn't Cleese a libdem?Quote:
Originally Posted by fingers
agree with your list of celebs though, especially Steven, he's a racist prick
How dare he work on a news channel that offers different opinions. The horror.Quote:
Originally Posted by fingers
Thoughts with you at this difficult time.
Thank you for your kind words, it means a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No worries :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by fingers
John Cleese seems to be turning into a daft old racistQuote:
Originally Posted by fingers
Phil Collins has always been a twat.....that song he sung about the homeless .....whilst voting for the Tories......who sold millions of council homes .....cricket bat across the chops he needed
Rodger Daltry ......working class revolutionary ......turns into anti European little englander
To be fair , GB news is porridge for thick right wing twatsQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Anybody who thinks this is left vs right would be very mistaken, it's the 1% and their lackies against everybody else.
That's classical left v rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Different from who? Is there a left wing equivalent of GB News?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
GB news isn't a right-wing news channel. Whenever I've turned it on, I've seen numerous debates with pretty left-wing opinions expressed. That's what I have found quite refreshing. It challenges some mainstream ways of thinking and is no bad thing at all. It's populist, I'll grant you that, but when I watched last week someone was giving a wild and long critique of the Conservative Party. I thought it was Sludge.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Criticising the Tories doesn't suddenly make it not right wing. The Sun, Daily Mail and Telegraph have all had pieces speaking out against Truss, Johnson, Kwarteng and the Tories as a whole recently. They're still right wing media.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No I know that, I'm just saying what they were talking about when I last watched it last week. Do you watch it? They have to be impartial by Ofcom rules. In that sense it's different to the print media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
There's an angle, anti-establishment, populist, anti-woke, challenging orthadox opinions etc, I'll grant you that. I'm not sure you are correct to call it 'right wing media' though.
I’m certain he’s correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Well Ofcom aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://pressgazette.co.uk/ofcom-gb-news/
I do like dipping in and out of GB News some cracking debates as is TALK TV , with so many other outlets like the BBC , Sky ,ITV who are so PC and into virtual signalling for my liking , you can have you career halted for speaking your mind in those arenas as per the Lawrence Fox moment ..
I used to listen to BBC especially Five Live I loved it and defended it , dont bother turning it on now rather Times Radio , LBC ..and planet Rock
I'm calling the Sun, Mail and Telegraph Right Wing media. GB News is right leaning. Being impartial doesn't mean presenters, writers, editors, journalists, etc won't have their personal opinions influencing the show. It just means both sides of the debate are given airtime. Being impartial means having a flat earther on the show if you're having a "what shape is the earth" debate. As I believe the BBC have done. It doesn't mean the BBC accepts the flat earth theory as a valid scientific stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
fair enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I like to aggregate news from Various sources
I listen to GB News on Sundays I think Alistair Stewart is the best anchor on TV
and i like Michelle Dewbury (Dewbs and Co) her accent is brilliant
Dewbs has just finished her slot and had PeterEdwards Labour guy and Dominique Samuals from the right as her panel
topics UKRAINE and Pedo Hunter gangs decent debate
I usually have talk radio on in the car mornings and evenings
BBC & ITV news gets listened to as the goto chanels on TV although TBF it's just in the background
I find it amusing that someone doesn't like someone anymore because of political views
bands that i like is because of their music.
actors/actresses i like is because of their acting ability
sports people i like is because of their sporting ability
and so on
I'd boff a Tory, a Labour, A liberal, A Green,
no worries.
Inclusive
Clandestine
GB News is right wing horse shit
People who think the BBC is for communists tune into it
Katie Hopkins types
It plays God Save The Queen every day
It's right wing nonsense
Phil Collins has always been crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Clandestine
How dare rock n roll stars go against the main stream narrative fed from above 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by fingers
GB news is controlled opposition, don't be fooled by it. Probably better than the rest though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clandestine
The Beeb, ITV, Channel4, The guardian, The independent (iroñy alert)Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
This seems relevant to this thread. I hadn't heard it but just listened to the song on youtube
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...tyn_jG45pPQEkE
Hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyperboreanCCFC
'GB news isn't right wing'
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Do you watch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Far better that this creatures name is not remembered.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Better that than the notoriety and infamy bestowed on the likes of Brady and Hindley.
Way beyond the understanding of Morrissey and O'Neill. Such a shame their names and output can't equally be forgotten.
I don't know who the biggest cnuts are , morrissey or the audience with flowers up their arses
Do you honestly think there is nothing in what he says? Do you really think the BBC, guardian, perhaps others are at the forefront of open debate, free ideas, challenging orthodoxy etc at the moment? I'm not so sure they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Marina Hyde also rather twisting things, suggesting this is a 'male' thing (which fits the editorial narrative required at the guardian) when that isn't the case at all. Plenty of women say the same thing.
I dunno. I think there is (or was) a pretty open minded debate show on BBC2 on sunday mornings, presented by Nicky Campbell, I'm not sure if it's on now. I also think BBC radio is better than TV for all this, but I do think there is a real cautionary cultural position at the BBC atm tbh.
Nicky Campbell is a god squad nutterQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Lawrence Fox , Cleese , Noel Edmondes , Jim Davidson etc
All complete arseholes
Another Tory bleating on about how the media’s against them :hehe:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...its-out-at-bbc
I listened to JRM this am and he did make a valid point that some (and I stress some) of the movement in Sterling are down to the Federal Reserve raising rates faster than the BoE, however JRM's claim that the markets being spooked is nothing to do with fiscal and monetary policy being at odds with each other is just plain wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And I don't buy into his claim that the BBC aren't impartial either. They were simply reporting that the markets have seen some turmoil, and that many economists believe that the aforementioned government fiscal policy being at odds with the BoE's monetary policy is causing some disruption.
No I don't. The Guardian and BBC are exemplars of orthodoxy - and defenders (and amplifiers) of the establishment. In the Guardian's case, whilst pretending to be something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
However, I thought Marina Hyde got it mostly right in her piece, and as usual it was amusing too. Worth sharing as we are discussing all things GBN and Cleese.