Yeah I stole that title.
Has a government ever whipped it's MPs to vote against a manifesto pledge before?
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Yeah I stole that title.
Has a government ever whipped it's MPs to vote against a manifesto pledge before?
It's quite astonishing. Makes good soap opera though. 🍿Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I’ve never been a fan, but, until fairly recently I had a grudging respect for them as a formidable political machine with a discipline among its MPs that other parties could only dream about - what’s happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Every local candidate is vetted by the central office, so I would assume they are all still following orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Well, you’re always telling us we’re not getting the real message on no end of subjects debated on here - I’d love to know your explanation as to what the plan has been with the Conservative party in the last few weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Turns out it was back frack or get ****ed up by the whips.
Given the reports, appears to be that the government got spooked, told the whips to step it up a notch, chief whip said **** no cya later and violence ensued.
What scenes, surely she is a gonner after this.
I loved the UK version of House of Cards years ago. These shenanigans are even beyond that and that was fiction apparently.
It's extraordinary.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Probably a majority that was too big, the pandemic, losing Boris, the war, choosing the wrong leader, the reckless budget..
It's incredible what is happening at the moment. I thought calls for her to go were preposterous a few days ago. Now I can totally understand them
You just wonder what they will feck up next.
She’s got to go, it’s a question of time, surely!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
At what point do enough of their members say we need a general election? I know it’ll be turkeys voting for Christmas but they’re embarrassing themselves and surely the country means something to them
I wonder what the protocol would be on Liz Truss resigning and handing over to Rishi Sunak and perhaps the commitment of a GE within a year or whatever?
I'm not saying that will happen or would be morally acceptable (although I would be okay with it). I just mean in the sense that if someone resigns from a job theyve taken, the job is often given to whomever wasnt first offered it?
There must be some kind of protocol in place?
I may be way off but I presumed they’d need another leadership battle? So that they eventually get to rishi v loon and then the loon takes charge for a couple of months.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I don’t see how anyone could now take the job and there not be a GE on the cards soon though
Yeah, thats my assumption. But I mean, say Liz Truss got taken seriously ill one day after winning the leadership election or whatever, presumably in that case they would have a parliamentary vote on handing it to whoever came second?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
I dunno..
I guess it would go to the deputy pm until they can find someone capable .. or otherwise ..Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
With how far behind they seemingly are in the polls why would rishi blow his shot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I feel like in that scenario you get maybot as a 'safe pair of hands' although she might be about to lose the whip.
Is there any way that the monarch can intervene, and withdraw the permission previously given for the Tories to form a government?
Johnson would be more than happy to do it, I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
There cannot be a leadership election for 12 months, but this can be changed by the backbench 1922 committee. Truss can always resign. not only that, but she can remain as party leader but resign the office of Prime Minister. The latter is a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I really dont think the bufoon would come back. Hes earning plenty on the speech circuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
And he's got the rest of his life to earn more. But politicians are soon forgotten. If he's going to emulate Churchill, his idol, in returning as PM then the window is pretty small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
He would lap up the opportunityQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
And there we go:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��Boris Johnson expected to run for Tory leadership.<br><br>(This is not a drill). <a href="https://t.co/1ZrwrIlfw7">https://t.co/1ZrwrIlfw7</a></p>— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) <a href="https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1583091983937318912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So, do we think the Tories would elect a DISGRACED Prime Minister as Prime Minister?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Would they sink so low?
Yes I reckon so
Without a shadow of a doubt. He'll then make Suella HS againQuote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
They would sink that low but they aren't going to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
I wish I had your confidenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Seem quite a few MPs calling for it. Got his deputy there and ready in Dorries.
These MPs will do anything to stay in their jobs.
I hope their constituents remember when the time comes
There's also talk of MPs threatening to resign and force by-elections if Boris does stand again.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
Starting to look like i was wrong. I didn't realise they were actually putting it to the membership. Gotta think he wins if it gets that far. Probably the only route to a general election and what the feck does his cabinet look like since almost all the prominent mps in the party resigned to get rid of him. This is so funny, they are actually on a suicide mission.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers