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You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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the other bob wilson
Robbed us of a goal at home and a ridiculous decision cost us a fair game lastnight.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
The two chasing the qpr player who went down for the penalty were woeffully out of position, not switched on etc, then Simpson put his arm across the player. You make **** ups like that and put yourself in vulnerable positions, then it's the fault of the defender in my opinion, it should never have developed into such a problem. People can blame the ref all they like, but if you walk on thin ice, it's no surprise when it cracks and you sink into freezing water. We ****ed up, we paid the price. Don't blame the Player for going down. If it had been a City player then nearly everyone on here slating the ref would have taken the sending off. Why people can't see that we manufactured the sending off through piss poor play in every respect is beyond me. These are Professionals, they know the score.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Tuerto
The two chasing the qpr player who went down for the penalty were woeffully out of position, not switched on etc, then Simpson put his arm across the player. You make **** ups like that and put yourself in vulnerable positions, then it's the fault of the defender in my opinion, it should never have developed into such a problem. People can blame the ref all they like, but if you walk on thin ice, it's no surprise when it cracks and you sink into freezing water. We ****ed up, we paid the price. Don't blame the Player for going down. If it had been a City player then nearly everyone on here slating the ref would have taken the sending off. Why people can't see that we manufactured the sending off through piss poor play in every respect is beyond me. These are Professionals, they know the score.
Still if the ref hadn't made a massive mistake, we would have had 11 players and no penalty, it's terrible luck that we keep getting such useless ref's it doesn't average itself out for us for some reason?
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North Cardiff Blue
Still if the ref hadn't made a massive mistake, we would have had 11 players and no penalty, it's terrible luck that we keep getting such useless ref's it doesn't average itself out for us for some reason?
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
Let's see if it's appealed and if we win?
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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the other bob wilson
If they are consistently shit you can.
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North Cardiff Blue
Let's see if it's appealed and if we win?
Yup. There's every chance, although i think it was a foul.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
These hard luck stories tend to happen to sides who get relegated
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
Red card overturned, not the players fault, that was a bad referering decsion!
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North Cardiff Blue
Red card overturned, not the players fault, that was a bad referering decsion!
Just because the ban has been overturned doesn’t mean that it wasn’t bad defending - we were all over the shop at the back while it was 0-0 and the way we opened up like the Red Sea to allow a kid making his first start of the season to run through the centre of the defence of our defence was criminal. The red card was ridiculous and should have been overturned, but we were woeful when it was eleven against eleven.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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the other bob wilson
Just because the ban has been overturned doesn’t mean that it wasn’t bad defending - we were all over the shop at the back while it was 0-0 and the way we opened up like the Red Sea to allow a kid making his first start of the season to run through the centre of the defence of our defence was criminal. The red card was ridiculous and should have been overturned, but we were woeful when it was eleven against eleven.
All over the shop or not, it was still 0-0 and really speaking, if it wasn’t a red card, their player should have been booked for impersonating Tom Daley
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BLUETIT
All over the shop or not, it was still 0-0 and really speaking, if it wasn’t a red card, their player should have been booked for impersonating Tom Daley
There have been more complaints about the ref being duped by the diver than the diver himself, such is the way of things these days. I blame the pundits.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Just because the ban has been overturned doesn’t mean that it wasn’t bad defending - we were all over the shop at the back while it was 0-0 and the way we opened up like the Red Sea to allow a kid making his first start of the season to run through the centre of the defence of our defence was criminal. The red card was ridiculous and should have been overturned, but we were woeful when it was eleven against eleven.
Of course it wasn't great defending, but the ref shouldn't send our player off and give them a penalty?
What was that for ref, "bad defending"
It's hard for our defence we look poor at the back we have lost Collins, NG from the centre, and Romeo, so we are weaker in the centre and either fullback.
O'Dowda may be the best option, but then we miss him up top?
The back up squad outside the first eleven is weak.
Until Romeo is back we are very vulnerable and really need to try someone else at left back other than Bagan.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
Added to that post but in the wrong order.
Of course it wasn't great defending, but the ref shouldn't send our player off and give them a penalty?
What was that for ref, "bad defending"
It's hard for our defence we look poor at the back we have lost Collins, NG from the centre, and Romeo, so we are weaker in the centre and either fullback.
Until Romeo is back we are very vulnerable and really need to try someone else at left back other than Bagan.
O'Dowda may be the best option, but then we miss him up top?
The back up squad outside the first eleven is weak.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
Being Devils Advocate, another person could argue that it was good defending, as they stopped him from scoring, or even getting an attempt on goal
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North Cardiff Blue
Of course it wasn't great defending, but the ref shouldn't send our player off and give them a penalty?
What was that for ref, "bad defending"
It's hard for our defence we look poor at the back we have lost Collins, NG from the centre, and Romeo, so we are weaker in the centre and either fullback.
O'Dowda may be the best option, but then we miss him up top?
The back up squad outside the first eleven is weak.
Until Romeo is back we are very vulnerable and really need to try someone else at left back other than Bagan.
I don’t agree, Ng (who I like), made a basic error in the first fifteen seconds which almost cost us, a few minutes later we were like headless chickens in our penalty area because of basic errors. It went on through that first twenty minutes and that was nothing to do with the ref.
Although I think we’re vulnerable to high balls and our left back can be an accident waiting to happen, I don’t think we’d defended badly this season until that first twenty minutes on Wednesday when we were shocking.
Early on in the season, I was getting concerned because we weren’t scoring and we weren’t creating anything, but we’d been good during a run of five matches apart from the one at Huddersfield. Unlike some on here, I think we’ve got a squad capable of quite a big improvement on last season, but the last two games have been a reminder as to why there are those who think we’re going down - we’ve got to be a lot better than we were for ninety minutes against Coventry (Madley or not, they were better than us) and the first twenty minutes at QPR.
Unlik
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
The refs at time this season have been diabolical.
If you put yourselves in positions for the decisions to hurt you then they almost always will though.
Deal with the QPR player running into the box earlier and it isn't a penalty and not a red card.
We're not helping ourselves currently. In short, if you're not at it and hand the initiative to other sides then there is all the more chance their incompetence will hurt you.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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BLUETIT
Being Devils Advocate, another person could argue that it was good defending, as they stopped him from scoring, or even getting an attempt on goal
My biggest gripe is that We gave the referee the opportunity to make a decision, which i've alluded to countless times during this thread. It wasn't a sending off, although it was terrible play. We have all watched enough football to know that if we're dicing with trouble and inviting pressure then fingers get burnt. It may not be the right decision, but lets not put ourselves in the position to start with.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Tuerto
My biggest gripe is that We gave the referee the opportunity to make a decision, which i've alluded to countless times during this thread. It wasn't a sending off, although it was terrible play. We have all watched enough football to know that if we're dicing with trouble and inviting pressure then fingers get burnt. It may not be the right decision, but lets not put ourselves in the position to start with.
But the referee was wrong
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Tuerto
My biggest gripe is that We gave the referee the opportunity to make a decision, which i've alluded to countless times during this thread. It wasn't a sending off, although it was terrible play. We have all watched enough football to know that if we're dicing with trouble and inviting pressure then fingers get burnt. It may not be the right decision, but lets not put ourselves in the position to start with.
If the ref had made the correct decision and waved play on when the player dived/fell then the defence had done it's job and they wouldn't have scored nor us going down to ten men
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
You obviously haven't seen it then. Since when has putting your arm across a player been an offence. It happens all the time and isn’t an offence in this case as Simpson is running ahead of the QPR player. He was within his rights to move across the player and block his route to the goal but the QPR player instigated the contact by kicking his leg and then diving to the ground.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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stan butler
If the ref had made the correct decision and waved play on when the player dived/fell then the defence had done it's job and they wouldn't have scored nor us going down to ten men
Yeah, i know. I'm not talking about the decision though, i'm talking about the lead up to the decision, the bits we could control.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Tuerto
Yeah, i know. I'm not talking about the decision though, i'm talking about the lead up to the decision, the bits we could control.
I'm not sure what the 'plan' was - the QPR player was homing in on goal with a City player either side of him. Were we going to provide an escort all the way to the six yard box ?
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A Quiet Monkfish
I'm not sure what the 'plan' was - the QPR player was homing in on goal with a City player either side of him. Were we going to provide an escort all the way to the six yard box ?
Exactly.Simpson was the wrong side to start with and playing catch up because he wasn't switched on. We were terrible, even when we had 11 on the pitch.The ref got it wrong, but it seems that we can't talk about the shambles that led up to the incident.
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Tuerto
Exactly.Simpson was the wrong side to start with and playing catch up because he wasn't switched on. We were terrible, even when we had 11 on the pitch.The ref got it wrong, but it seems that we can't talk about the shambles that led up to the incident.
But they were defending legally, the only one making a mistake was the referee
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Exactly.Simpson was the wrong side to start with and playing catch up because he wasn't switched on. We were terrible, even when we had 11 on the pitch.The ref got it wrong, but it seems that we can't talk about the shambles that led up to the incident.
Agreed, say the QPR player had got in a shot early after running through three of our defenders in exactly the same manner and scored - people would be up in arms about our shocking defending.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Tuerto
Exactly.Simpson was the wrong side to start with and playing catch up because he wasn't switched on. We were terrible, even when we had 11 on the pitch.The ref got it wrong, but it seems that we can't talk about the shambles that led up to the incident.
Our defender had caught up and got in front of their player who then dived..
So at that point if the ref had not given anything for the dive we would have no doubt cleared the ball and wouldnt have been a goal and player down
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stan butler
Our defender had caught up and got in front of their player who then dived..
So at that point if the ref had not given anything for the dive we would have no doubt cleared the ball and wouldnt have been a goal and player down
I give up...... :hehe:
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Tuerto
I give up...... :hehe:
:hehe: I'm in your corner but throwing the towel in is all that's left!
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
With football being the way it is we are not in the running for any sort of promotion so we need to have a side good enough to keep us out of that bottom 3
That's the trap door
If we can get three or 4 places away from that , or higher , then the odd dodgy ref decision can be coped with
At the moment I think we are going down
We don't have a strong spine in fact we are lightweight
The only good thing we have is good movement up front from the new boy and o dowda supplying
We are one of 7 or 8 teams in danger and at present I wouldn't put money on us staying up
The point is TOBW is right , poor referring decisions are not going to send us down , we can do that all by ourselves
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
With football being the way it is we are not in the running for any sort of promotion so we need to have a side good enough to keep us out of that bottom 3
That's the trap door
If we can get three or 4 places away from that , or higher , then the odd dodgy ref decision can be coped with
At the moment I think we are going down
We don't have a strong spine in fact we are lightweight
The only good thing we have is good movement up front from the new boy and o dowda supplying
We are one of 7 or 8 teams in danger and at present I wouldn't put money on us staying up
The point is TOBW is right , poor referring decisions are not going to send us down , we can do that all by ourselves
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The ref wouldn't have made a mistake (and i don't think that it was a massive one) if the two clowns chasing the player down had been switched on, on their toes, anticipating what could happen, instead of standing about with their thumb up their arses. I'm sorry, and i know that it sounds harsh, but these players are professionals, Simpson knew the risk he was taking by putting his arm across, and he didn't put him arm across the player because he wanted to feel the quality of cloth the shirt was made out of. It was a cute foul, because he got himself in a horrendous position. People go in harder at call centre workers than they do City players for making **** ups :hehe:
This is slightly ironic from the guy who spent post after post trying to claim that a half asleep Joe Allen booting Yarmolenko instead of the ball was fine and definitely not a penalty.
I'm not sure what Simpson and Wintle have done wrong here. The initial challenge on Armstrong from Ng is weak and Kipre (having lost the initial aerial challenge with Dykes) then has the chance to bring him down but gives him extra momentum with a push in the back instead so those two deserve some criticism. The other two are blameless as far as I can see.
Chair has pushed into the centre forward position and Simpson starts to follow him as he drifts wide but quickly sees the danger as Armstrong breaks forward and has him covered. Wintle also picks up the run and both are in a perfect position to get a tackle in but don't need to as Armstrong's last touch is too heavy. Wintle sees this and immediately points to Allsop to collect it, which he does.
Simpson and Armstrong put arms across each other but Simpson has got himself just ahead and Armstrong can't get past, seems to fall in the effort to do so and brings Simpson down. If this isn't what happened then why did the red card get overturned?
I saw Armstrong down here for their under-21s recently, really impressive. So much pace and power but he was clumsy on this occasion and Simpson dealt with it perfectly as far as I could see. A ridiculous decision from the referee. Apart from anything else it meant a wasted evening for my youngest who'd come all the way from Hampstead to watch it.
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Loramski
This is slightly ironic from the guy who spent post after post trying to claim that a half asleep Joe Allen booting Yarmolenko instead of the ball was fine and definitely not a penalty.
I'm not sure what Simpson and Wintle have done wrong here. The initial challenge on Armstrong from Ng is weak and Kipre (having lost the initial aerial challenge with Dykes) then has the chance to bring him down but gives him extra momentum with a push in the back instead so those two deserve some criticism. The other two are blameless as far as I can see.
Chair has pushed into the centre forward position and Simpson starts to follow him as he drifts wide but quickly sees the danger as Armstrong breaks forward and has him covered. Wintle also picks up the run and both are in a perfect position to get a tackle in but don't need to as Armstrong's last touch is too heavy. Wintle sees this and immediately points to Allsop to collect it, which he does.
Simpson and Armstrong put arms across each other but Simpson has got himself just ahead and Armstrong can't get past, seems to fall in the effort to do so and brings Simpson down. If this isn't what happened then why did the red card get overturned?
I saw Armstrong down here for their under-21s recently, really impressive. So much pace and power but he was clumsy on this occasion and Simpson dealt with it perfectly as far as I could see. A ridiculous decision from the referee. Apart from anything else it meant a wasted evening for my youngest who'd come all the way from Hampstead to watch it.
You win.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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Originally Posted by
Loramski
This is slightly ironic from the guy who spent post after post trying to claim that a half asleep Joe Allen booting Yarmolenko instead of the ball was fine and definitely not a penalty.
I'm not sure what Simpson and Wintle have done wrong here. The initial challenge on Armstrong from Ng is weak and Kipre (having lost the initial aerial challenge with Dykes) then has the chance to bring him down but gives him extra momentum with a push in the back instead so those two deserve some criticism. The other two are blameless as far as I can see.
Chair has pushed into the centre forward position and Simpson starts to follow him as he drifts wide but quickly sees the danger as Armstrong breaks forward and has him covered. Wintle also picks up the run and both are in a perfect position to get a tackle in but don't need to as Armstrong's last touch is too heavy. Wintle sees this and immediately points to Allsop to collect it, which he does.
Simpson and Armstrong put arms across each other but Simpson has got himself just ahead and Armstrong can't get past, seems to fall in the effort to do so and brings Simpson down. If this isn't what happened then why did the red card get overturned?
I saw Armstrong down here for their under-21s recently, really impressive. So much pace and power but he was clumsy on this occasion and Simpson dealt with it perfectly as far as I could see. A ridiculous decision from the referee. Apart from anything else it meant a wasted evening for my youngest who'd come all the way from Hampstead to watch it.
Totally agree , I don’t buy into this argument we were all over the place so were definitely going to get stuffed. How often have you seen a team being outplayed for 20- 30 minutes, hang in there, stop the opposition from scoring and then take your chance and turn the game on its head , happens all the time in football, scoring a goal is not easy.
The ridiculous decision by the ref to not only award a penalty but double the damage by sending the player off made a mockery of the remaining 70 minutes and ended the contest. Watching in real time on the Sky red button the first instinct was Campbell was not fouled, the ball had already run through to Allsop who was quite far off his line ( as he usually is) before Campbell even went to ground.
QPR may well have won anyway but we’ll never know and to say we would have lost based on our defending for the first 18 minutes is ridiculous when the score was still 0-0 and we had 2 decent off target efforts ourselves
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Don Corleone
Totally agree , I don’t buy into this argument we were all over the place so were definitely going to get stuffed. How often have you seen a team being outplayed for 20- 30 minutes, hang in there, stop the opposition from scoring and then take your chance and turn the game on its head , happens all the time in football, scoring a goal is not easy.
The ridiculous decision by the ref to not only award a penalty but double the damage by sending the player off made a mockery of the remaining 70 minutes and ended the contest. Watching in real time on the Sky red button the first instinct was Campbell was not fouled, the ball had already run through to Allsop who was quite far off his line ( as he usually is) before Campbell even went to ground.
QPR may well have won anyway but we’ll never know and to say we would have lost based on our defending for the first 18 minutes is ridiculous when the score was still 0-0 and we had 2 decent off target efforts ourselves
Amen
It’s utter nonsense that we can’t blame the referee for Wednesday night.
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Don Corleone
Totally agree , I don’t buy into this argument we were all over the place so were definitely going to get stuffed. How often have you seen a team being outplayed for 20- 30 minutes, hang in there, stop the opposition from scoring and then take your chance and turn the game on its head , happens all the time in football, scoring a goal is not easy.
The ridiculous decision by the ref to not only award a penalty but double the damage by sending the player off made a mockery of the remaining 70 minutes and ended the contest. Watching in real time on the Sky red button the first instinct was Campbell was not fouled, the ball had already run through to Allsop who was quite far off his line ( as he usually is) before Campbell even went to ground.
QPR may well have won anyway but we’ll never know and to say we would have lost based on our defending for the first 18 minutes is ridiculous when the score was still 0-0 and we had 2 decent off target efforts ourselves
Some people on this thread are arguing as if poor defending in one phase can't be rectified by others in the next phase and a dumb referee is exonerated for a shit decision - they arent mutually exclusive - it was poor to defending to allow Armstrong to get that far it was a good defending to stop him progressing and shit refereeing to award a penalty and then even worse refereeing to send him off. The panel agreed
What pisses me off is two things. One referees are so arrogant in their demeanour and are untouchable after the event they don't deserve respect
The 2nd is posters on here that seem to take a swipe at the manager and players at every opportunity and always waiting in the wings to do so. That is their choice and they are welcome to take that position
However for me their angst should be aimed at the ownership and top governance who are sleep walking us to relegation by not having a plan a vision or any decisiveness
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Nobody's Rep
Some people on this thread are arguing as if poor defending in one phase can't be rectified by others in the next phase and a dumb referee is exonerated for a shit decision - they arent mutually exclusive - it was poor to defending to allow Armstrong to get that far it was a good defending to stop him progressing and shit refereeing to award a penalty and then even worse refereeing to send him off. The panel agreed
What pisses me off is two things. One referees are so arrogant in their demeanour and are untouchable after the event they don't deserve respect
The 2nd is posters on here that seem to take a swipe at the manager and players at every opportunity and always waiting in the wings to do so. That is their choice and they are welcome to take that position
However for me their angst should be aimed at the ownership and top governance who are sleep walking us to relegation by not having a plan a vision or any decisiveness
If that's aimed at me, I took care to limit my criticism of Wednesday's game to when it was 0-0 because we defended appallingly during that time (if anything, I'd say we defended better when we were down to ten). I've also said that the really disappointing thing about that for me was that, although we've hardly been perfect, we've been pretty good defensively this season.
As for the red card, I don't think anyone bar the ref thought it was merited, but that had nothing to do with our defending for the incident. Armstrong's poor touch was taking the ball into Allsop's arms I believe and was the main reason why a penalty shouldn't have been given. So, I'm not convinced that there was any good defending involved on our part, but the contact between the QPR man and Simpson put it into the "I've seen them given" category for me. Armstrong's run took him past four of our players over a distance of about thirty five yards - I watched that under 21 game Loramski refers to as well, but it seems none of our defenders did based on how we coped with the situation.
I agree with your last paragraph completely though - there have been plenty of times when there seems to have been "interference from above" over the past dozen years, but, by contrast, it seems now as if the football side is just being left to get on with it. That may not be a bad thing under some circumstances, but there is a balance to be struck in how the owner/financial management side of things see their part in the relationship with the playing side and it often seems that Tan and co still can't get that right.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
If your central defender and central midfielder are facing their own goal, in a foot race with an attacker, bearing in on goal, then shit me not, something has gone wrong. For clarity, i don't think it was a penalty, but i don't really understand how people who have watched thousands of games of football, can't see that poor play can lead to problems, pretty much like most things in life.
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Re: You can’t keep on blaming the officials all of the time – City have not been good enough in their last two games.
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stan butler
Robbed us of a goal at home and a ridiculous decision cost us a fair game lastnight.
Not only robbed us of a goal but gifted Cov a goal which WAS clearly offside. So yeah I’m blaming the officials.
Point would have been fair on Saturday and who knows about Weds as it was over before it got going