Whoever it is, the odds are stacked towards a disaster.
Presuming that we don't get to have a general election, and it has to be a Tory, which one would you rather?
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Whoever it is, the odds are stacked towards a disaster.
Presuming that we don't get to have a general election, and it has to be a Tory, which one would you rather?
The lettuce.
I would be concerned if sunak or mordant got in as starmer wouldn't cope with either of them
2 years is enough for the blue meanies to reduce those poll ratings
So I am going for Micheal Fabricant
Sunak, perhaps with Mordaunt as deputy.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
I have to say though, the odds are not stacked on it being a disaster in my opinion, for the following reasons;
1 / They cannot f*ck up as much as she has
2 / Barring a terrifying escalation in the war, the global situation *probably* cannot get too much worse than it is now, although it could improve considerably before any general election
3 / The market will probably welcome them, especially if it is someone like Sunak.
4 / Umm, the only way is probably up polling wise!
They will face many challenges, but following on from the last couple of months probably makes it easier for whoever comes next tbh.
I'm not quite sure about that. Think it may be a poisoned chalice for whoever takes it over. Although you'd think they'd last a bit longerQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I'm really conflicted.
The left-leaning side of me would like Suella. Because she strikes me as an evil witch who may be the only one who has enough capacity to take them lower.
On the other hand, the left-leaning side of me hopes she never gets near cabinet ever again.
I think my preference would be Rishi. Still tainted by the Boris administration, and someone so out of touch with the reality of normal life for people that there will be easy political ground to be made against him in this climate. But a safe pair of hands with regards the economy until an election
Keir Starmer
Roy Hattersley or a tub of lard?
Keir Starmer, but it doesn't seem that the general public have a say anymore.
Johnson has just confirmed he's running. New manager bounce?
he's also still being investigated. It would be laughed at if politics hadn't already sunk so lowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Terese Coffey seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by DryCleaning
Whoever it is, it seems to me that the Tory's are putting the cart before the horse here. We're supposed to have a new PM a week today and then the Chancellor is going to give us more details of spending plans on Halloween day against a background of the OBR report which we should have had for Kwarteng and Truss' "experiment". Shouldn't there be an OBR report out there now though so that the proposals of any candidate can be examined and people can decide whether they're viable or not? Clearly, it would not have detailed analysis on proposals we hear about on 31 October, but it'd give everyone an idea of the sums involved and where we stand currently on the back of the u turns announced by Hunt on Monday.
I don't think anyone knows what the hell is going on tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
In fairness, a week is a very short time period for a leadership election, so that is good. In the meantime, I guess departments operate on the agreed 2022/23 budget. I assume the OBR cease working on their analysis of Kwartengs budget and I would suggest they take a week off in Tenerife to prepare for whatever the new leader intends to present.
Extraordinary times.
It's good in theory that they plan to get a new leader in a week to limit the uncertainty. But on the flip side, if they managed to make such a hash of it in 6 weeks and endless debate then it does give some cause for concern, tooQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
SB has literally been sacked 2 days ago for a breach of the code of practice. The facts she is being asked if she is running is quite staggering.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
I thought she resigned..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
2CLs would be nice.
Clive Lewis and Caroline Lucas as joint leaders in a Lab/Green Coalition.
January 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
In a minute they'll be saying Boris Johnson is running :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
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Originally Posted by az city
Or sooner given imminent government collapseQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
You are still at itQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You said in a post recently you were going to vote for starmer
Now you are back to sticking up for the Tories
Sort yourself out
SludgeyQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Philomena is a busted flush. They/he/he won't tell us what his expertise is and is constantly contradicting him/her/themself.
Dream team!Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
From a Caribbean happy hour, Boris Johnson promises no more parties in Downing Street
Tories down to 14 per cent in a poll taken yesterday - they’re thirty nine points behind Labour. Surely this is as bad as it gets for the governing party?
https://peoplepolling.org/
Hasn't that already happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
No that's when they go to the King and tell him the game's up. It might not be too long to wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by DryCleaning
Isn't that what truss is going to do, like Boris before her?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
We don't have a functioning government at present. I can't see parliament supporting Boris or Sunak so that leaves Mordaunt.
Can anyone put up with that whining voice of Starmer until the next 2 yrs ? Every time he speaks it sounds like he's trying to force a s**t out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
They can elect whoever they like. Their party is split with right wing loons , those that wanted all those tax cuts which ultimately crashed the economy to the like of Sunak who opposed Mordaunt and Truss with their plans. Not to mention the split with the Brexit loons.
I think it will be Sunak but I cant see him getting the support he needs to stop a hammering in an election.
Mordaunt as PM. FFS she was going to cut taxes as well.
All we can hope is Hunt steadys the market so Labour have something to work with in 2 years
Given the alternative - yes, easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
ABB
Yes that's why I stated it was imminent. Mordaunt looks like she may struggle to get the numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by DryCleaning
Crashing the economy is over egging the pudding somewhat. The gilt markets were spooked as they did not expect it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I was watching BBC News am. Some loon from Romford was praising Boris. Idiots.
Boris as PM . (With agreed period handover to Rishi ) not a crappy Blair / Brown sad promise or no promise ..
Rishi as deputy PM with bigger responsibilities than usual Deputies plus chancellor .
Hunt as Home Secretary.
Wallace Defence.
Lovey Penny Head of Commons and women's rights../ on line hate crimes.
Truss Foreign Secretary.
Kemi Badenoch NHS.
😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Will the last person left in the UK please turn out the lights? Sorry, no need, the electricity will be cut off anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
As far as I am concerned all the Tories are ***** and they need to be kicked out of office
They are clinging to power and when I see people interviewed on the TV who still say they will vote conservative after all the lies and bullshit of the last few years then I think that it really a case of us and them .
People say you shouldn't be so partisan about politics .
But after this nonsense anyone who votes tory that was a sort of acquaintance is going to be persona non grata
I can't be in the company of people who say they voted Conservative as the best option for the country.
Stop lying , you voted Conservative because you are an idiot as you have seen all this going on and still ticked the stupid box 📦
Another reason why the next Prime Minister shouldn’t be a Tory.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ratings-agency