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Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
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My thoughts are no thank you , stick with Wales
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
Not comparable at all - why is it idiotic to be able to conduct your life in the language of your birthplace that you were raised with and understand and use daily?
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There have been a few discussions on here where there is a general agreement that the Welsh support and authorities seem to be amplifying slightly more nationalistic tones than they used to. Some support that, others dont. Personally, I think that's a dangerous road to go down and it seems Noel Moody may be behind some of it? It's notable that the Rep of Ireland did used to be known as Ireland.
I don't support this idea. Wales is what the majority of people in Wales refer to their country as. It's also how the rest of the world know us (if they know us at all)
I would feel less connection as a result to be honest. It's not comparable to our rebrand, but it is a rebrand nonetheless and seems a strange move to rock a steady boat.
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I think it might appeal to the cracac in pontcanna
And those yes Cymru lot
But when Bryn Terfel sings the national anthem and says the blood of caradog flows through him then when asked by the BBC who are his sporting heroes he says fecking man United I say what a load of bollocks all this fake nationalism is
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I don't get the reference to Turkey. Are they saying the Turks, officially and unofficially used to call themselves Turkey?
There's very different reasons why a Welsh person would happily call the team "Wales". For me it's being as I don't speak Welsh and the language is as foreign to me as Turkish. Rightly or wrongly.
Why confuse the international population anymore? Most barely know Wales as it is.
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Why change something that is not Broken.
On English speaking broadcasters Sky/BT/BBC we can be referred to as Wales
and on S4C or any other Welsh publications they can call us Cymru.
Seems to work fine.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think it might appeal to the cracac in pontcanna
And those yes Cymru lot
But when Bryn Terfel sings the national anthem and says the blood of caradog flows through him then when asked by the BBC who are his sporting heroes he says fecking man United I say what a load of bollocks all this fake nationalism is
As someone said elsewhere, City 1st, Wales 2nd. If they do this I'll support England instead.
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Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Would help promote the Welsh (Cymru) language and is the Welsh word for Wales so not a rebrand really.
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
As someone said elsewhere, City 1st, Wales 2nd. If they do this I'll support England instead.
Got to be fishing here.
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
As someone said elsewhere, City 1st, Wales 2nd. If they do this I'll support England instead.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I don't think I'm bothered either way, I'd probably just end up using both without thinking about it. I've heard people use Cymru in various settings.
There is precedent for it too. Czechia, The Netherlands, Turkiye, Myanmar and Eswatini all in recent years have changed their names and for Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, El Salvador and probably more we don't use English translations.
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Got to be fishing here.
Not really. Turn on the radio and there's endless public service announcements in Welsh. Welsh is now above English on all new road signage etc. Texts from the NHS to my phone are in Welsh, followed by English. Parking machines are in Welsh by default, etc. English comes 2nd in everything. Wales is run by Welsh bigots. If that spreads to their football team they can stuff it.
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I have never ever heard anyone call Wales Cymru in a football sense
Maybe in print but even then it's rare
It's Wales ff sake
Are you going to the Wales game , isn't it fantastic to see Wales in euro 2016 , bloody hell Wales gave Belgium a stuffing , I wonder if Bale is going to help Wales get to the world Cup?
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Not really. Turn on the radio and there's endless public service announcements in Welsh. Welsh is now above English on all new road signage etc. Texts from the NHS to my phone are in Welsh, followed by English. Parking machines are in Welsh by default, etc. English comes 2nd in everything. Wales is run by Welsh bigots. If that spreads to their football team they can stuff it.
You need a day at Blaenavon museum.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Not really. Turn on the radio and there's endless public service announcements in Welsh. Welsh is now above English on all new road signage etc. Texts from the NHS to my phone are in Welsh, followed by English. Parking machines are in Welsh by default, etc. English comes 2nd in everything. Wales is run by Welsh bigots. If that spreads to their football team they can stuff it.
The cost for each thing translated, print etc etc is probably negligible but added up over the years and we probably could have afforded a relief road for the M4 or a train station on East Cardiff which I read the other day was being reviewed again.
Charlatans
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Dave Blue
You need a day at Blaenavon museum.
Blaenafon more like.
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I'm not too bothered either way, but it would confuse more people than it would please.
However, it would be a move from calling ourselves 'foreigners' or 'outsiders' (from the original Saxon) to 'friends' or 'fellow countrymen'.
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
We say come on Cymru in our house but then the kids and wife are welsh speakers.
Those whining about it on here are the people who also still whine about the miners strikes and the impact Tories had on welsh communities. Have you ever heard of the welsh not?
I assume you all still call it a Chicken Kiev and not a Chicken Keeeeev.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think it might appeal to the cracac in pontcanna
And those yes Cymru lot
But when Bryn Terfel sings the national anthem and says the blood of caradog flows through him then when asked by the BBC who are his sporting heroes he says fecking man United I say what a load of bollocks all this fake nationalism is
You are the biggest Uncle Tom of the lot, boot licker :hehe:
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Not really. Turn on the radio and there's endless public service announcements in Welsh. Welsh is now above English on all new road signage etc. Texts from the NHS to my phone are in Welsh, followed by English. Parking machines are in Welsh by default, etc. English comes 2nd in everything. Wales is run by Welsh bigots. If that spreads to their football team they can stuff it.
:hehe: :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Got to be fishing here.
Nah, I don't think anything will ever top the Welsh language in its ability to piss off some on here. Quite sad really.
I think this thread has hit all the classics already and it's barely been up for two hours.
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I think the FAW should be concentrating on the massive upcoming event in Qatar rather than pushing the Cymru over Wales thing. It doesn't bother me either way Wales or Cymru, but i would lean on keeping it as Wales as this is what people around the world know it as. What does bother me by this release from FAW is why are they not concentrating on the World Cup tournament, instead of getting involved with shit outside of football.
Spedger
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Think it's a great idea to promote the Welsh language on the world stage, not sure why anyone would be against it.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
30? No where near, 10% maybe
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I think football should renamed as bodyball (minus the arms).
The Bodyball Association of Cymru has a nice ring to it.
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Originally Posted by
Sloop_Jon_Bee
I think the FAW should be concentrating on the massive upcoming event in Qatar rather than pushing the Cymru over Wales thing. It doesn't bother me either way Wales or Cymru, but i would lean on keeping it as Wales as this is what people around the world know it as. What does bother me by this release from FAW is why are they not concentrating on the World Cup tournament, instead of getting involved with shit outside of football.
Spedger
Well it will be translated around the world, nobody knows it as Wales outside English Speaking countries. It'll still be (Pays De) Gal·les where i live.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So change the name of the national team, in a country where only about 30% of the population speak the language. Very clever. Almost as idiotic as changing all the road signs.
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Originally Posted by
goats
30? No where near, 10% maybe
dml1954 might be right for once!
The (2011) census determined that 18.56% of the population could speak Welsh and 14.57% could speak, read and write in the language.
The most recent Annual Population Survey (June 2020), as conducted by the Office for National Statistics, suggests that 28.6% of people in Wales aged three and over were able to speak Welsh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Welsh-speakers
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jon1959
dml1954 might be right for once!
The (2011) census determined that 18.56% of the population could speak Welsh and 14.57% could speak, read and write in the language.
The most recent Annual Population Survey (June 2020), as conducted by the Office for National Statistics, suggests that 28.6% of people in Wales aged three and over were able to speak Welsh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Welsh-speakers
Dml may be even closer than that! 29.7% as of year ending June 2022. Seems a little high to me tbh
https://gov.wales/welsh-language-dat...2021-june-2022
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I have never ever heard anyone call Wales Cymru in a football sense
Maybe in print but even then it's rare
It's Wales ff sake
Are you going to the Wales game , isn't it fantastic to see Wales in euro 2016 , bloody hell Wales gave Belgium a stuffing , I wonder if Bale is going to help Wales get to the world Cup?
Why do you care what our country is called in a football sense?
You are always so keen to tell us how it’s City first, Wales 2nd and you couldn’t really care for international football?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Sloop_Jon_Bee
I think the FAW should be concentrating on the massive upcoming event in Qatar rather than pushing the Cymru over Wales thing. It doesn't bother me either way Wales or Cymru, but i would lean on keeping it as Wales as this is what people around the world know it as. What does bother me by this release from FAW is why are they not concentrating on the World Cup tournament, instead of getting involved with shit outside of football.
Spedger
The FAW will have to rebrand as FAC.
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Once you know the meaning Wales does have a somewhat negative connotation, although I’m not too bothered with it being used personally. Likewise, Cymru has a more positive meaning and I’m likewise happy with its use. Either/or is fine by me.
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I have no issue with changing the official name to Cymru, it is after all the name of our country in the original language.
It also has the secondary affect of winding up the English nationalists in this Telegraph article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...les-world-cup/
Mind you reading some of the comments on this forum and the comments on the article, it appears there are some kindred spirits.
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I think there should be a compromise.
We should keep the English language but change the team's name to Wails reminding everyone how some of the support just love acting all hysterical like the people who comment in the Daily Mail.
Haven't they been referred to as Cymru in all the home games by stadium announcer?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
I think there should be a compromise.
We should keep the English language but change the team's name to Wails reminding everyone how some of the support just love acting all hysterical like the people who comment in the Daily Mail.
Haven't they been referred to as Cymru in all the home games by stadium announcer?
It's from the Guardian?
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As the nomenclature 'Wales' is cognate with Wallachia (part of Romania), Wallonia (Southern Belgium) and Cornwall and effectively means 'stranger' or 'foreigner', it makes sense to adopt the name bestowed upon us by our own culture rather than a description foisted upon us by those not from these islands.
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Stick to the name the majority of the country have called it since they were in primary school... Wales.
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Germany v Deutschland anyone?
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There’s some right weird herbs in here fair play. If this is all you have to get upset about then you need to get a life.