Blind positivity v depressing negativity

I’m currently 80% in the depressing negativity camp. Why? I hear you ask. Well, football is ultimately a game won by scoring goals, you can pass the ball around all you want, score no goals you are in trouble. We are the lowest scorers in the division (alongside Preston) with 14 goals in 18 games, depressingly poor.

The question I would ask of those edging more towards blind positivity is, “where are these goals going to come from”?

I’ve seen nothing that makes me think we’ll suddenly start banging the goals in.

Maybe January will bring us a goal scorer

I'm 50/50. I don't think we're that good, but the football is better and we seem to be taking a more modern approach to things. And I do see potential. That's probably the biggest positive for me.

Without a decent forward and who will receive decent supply we are probably going to be relegated.

Yours,
TBG,
Stating thebleedin' obvious,
The University of Life,
Reading gas meters and toilet walls.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Without a decent forward and who will receive decent supply we are probably going to be relegated.

Yours,
TBG,
Stating thebleedin' obvious,
The University of Life,
Reading gas meters and toilet walls.

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No probably about it

At present we are a bust flush

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I’m currently 80% in the depressing negativity camp. Why? I hear you ask. Well, football is ultimately a game won by scoring goals, you can pass the ball around all you want, score no goals you are in trouble. We are the lowest scorers in the division (alongside Preston) with 14 goals in 18 games, depressingly poor.

The question I would ask of those edging more towards blind positivity is, “where are these goals going to come from”?

I’ve seen nothing that makes me think we’ll suddenly start banging the goals in.

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"Why, i hear you ask" Fair play, i think i pissed out a corn flake when i read that :hehe:

That team are in desperate need of some creativity in the midfield. Wintle, Ralls and Rinomhota are all solid players but they're unlikely to produce much going forward, but I don't think we'll go down, we've had a tough run of fixtures where circumstances haven't helped and I'd say there are certainly worse teams than us. I also don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to improve considering after the World Cup considering this is a mainly new squad missing some important players in Colwill, Davies and now Robinson who will all (hopefully) be available after the World Cup. Colwill and Robinson's creativity coupled with Davies' pace make us a different proposition entirely

Maybe we can get Hugill back on loan in January. He would be a good target man for Robinson and even Harris.

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Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird

Maybe we can get Hugill back on loan in January. He would be a good target man for Robinson and even Harris.

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I don't think that Harris should be playing at this level.

our most played strikers this season are Harris and Watters so far aren't they?
if Davies was fit and Robinson was available I don't think either would be anywhere near the team.
Davies was ahead of both last season and I think he's a far better prospect than either, and Robinson is a good championship player.
Also Colwill being out for so long hasn't helped, he was our joint top scorer or thereabouts last year.

take 2 or 3 of our best attacking options out of almost any of our teams from the last 20 years and we would be significantly diminished

On the more positive side, I was impressed by Philogene on Wednesday night, and I think once Robinson is back, they could form a good forward pairing. Play three centre-backs, and two wing-backs in a 2-5-2 formation. And come January, we should sell/loan out Harris and Watters, and sign another forward instead. Sorted.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

"Why, i hear you ask" Fair play, i think i pissed out a corn flake when i read that :hehe:

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Haha the voices in my head regularly regale me with message board stories.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

Haha the voices in my head regularly regale me with message board stories.

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:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Without a decent forward and who will receive decent supply we are probably going to be relegated.

Yours,
TBG,
Stating thebleedin' obvious,
The University of Life,
Reading gas meters and toilet walls.

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Agreed, I’m more interested in finding out why the blindly positive seem to think we’ll turn this around.

I’ll be home for a month over Christmas, I should be excited about getting to see a few games …. but I need an injection of something positive to get my enthusiasm going!

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I’m currently 80% in the depressing negativity camp. Why? I hear you ask. Well, football is ultimately a game won by scoring goals, you can pass the ball around all you want, score no goals you are in trouble. We are the lowest scorers in the division (alongside Preston) with 14 goals in 18 games, depressingly poor.

The question I would ask of those edging more towards blind positivity is, “where are these goals going to come from”?

I’ve seen nothing that makes me think we’ll suddenly start banging the goals in.

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A year ago we were scoring more goals but had the 2nd worst defensive record in the division. We'd also won 3 fewer points at this moment in the season.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I’m currently 80% in the depressing negativity camp. Why? I hear you ask. Well, football is ultimately a game won by scoring goals, you can pass the ball around all you want, score no goals you are in trouble. We are the lowest scorers in the division (alongside Preston) with 14 goals in 18 games, depressingly poor.

The question I would ask of those edging more towards blind positivity is, “where are these goals going to come from”?

I’ve seen nothing that makes me think we’ll suddenly start banging the goals in.

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I thought I was the miserable one on here ?

We have had it unless new faces come in , the team is not good enough at present

Goals scored with Robinson in the team, eight in eight league games plus the seven minutes he played against Swansea, goals scored without Robinson in the team six in ten in all competitions, plus the eighty three minutes when he wasn’t on the pitch at Swansea (he’s only played seven and a half matches actually, because he came on af half time at Millwall). Our goalscoring record with him in the team is poor, but so much better than when he’s missing.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I thought I was the miserable one on here ?

We have had it unless new faces come in , the team is not good enough at present

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Haha I’m a practical man, the league table and results tell me what I need to know. (And you know I love you really)

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

A year ago we were scoring more goals but had the 2nd worst defensive record in the division. We'd also won 3 fewer points at this moment in the season.

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Thanks mate. I do worry that our defence is starting to shake too at the moment.

My main worry is that we suffer a few key injuries, Kipre, Rino or Ralls say, and the people coming in aren’t good enough.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

Thanks mate. I do worry that our defence is starting to shake too at the moment.

My main worry is that we suffer a few key injuries, Kipre, Rino or Ralls say, and the people coming in aren’t good enough.

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It is a worry considering we're two points above the relegation places with those names in the team.

This thread needs rescuing by dml.

Weve missed the creative skills of Colwill and the pace of Davies, players like Harris and Watters should never be near the team

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Originally Posted by olderblue

Weve missed the creative skills of Colwill and the pace of Davies, players like Harris and Watters should never be near the team

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I think Harris is the same standard as most of the squad. Watters is way out of his depth.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

This thread needs rescuing by dml.

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😂😂😂

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I’m currently 80% in the depressing negativity camp. Why? I hear you ask. Well, football is ultimately a game won by scoring goals, you can pass the ball around all you want, score no goals you are in trouble. We are the lowest scorers in the division (alongside Preston) with 14 goals in 18 games, depressingly poor.

The question I would ask of those edging more towards blind positivity is, “where are these goals going to come from”?

I’ve seen nothing that makes me think we’ll suddenly start banging the goals in.

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Football has changed it will never be the same, plus we are all older, so lifes not quite the same either, and we need a character that can score goals like a Chopra, that would improve it slightly!

538 has Hull, Rotherham and Huddersfield to go down, and has us reaching 55 points.
they give us a 20% chance of going down this season

Everyone seems to believe that Colwill and Davies will produce the goods and help us stay up. I am not convinced - Colwill is too nice- yes he can spot a pass, but no great pace and gets muscled off the ball too easily despite his size, and he's never used his height to trouble defenders. What is his confidence factor going forward, fearful of getting injured again?
As far Isaak Davies - yes an exciting player, but again he has been out a long long time, and usually when that happens, players do not come back with the same pace they originally had. I hope I am wrong but....
Having been encouraged by introducing young players towards the end of last season it is disappointed to see them not getting a look in - not even on the bench. Don't tell me there are no youngsters (and remember they are around 20 years of age), that cannot challenge for a team place - even on the bench - cannot do worse than some in the team. If there are not then they should not be at the club.
Also, somewhat underwhelmed at new coach.....seems to have followed failure in coaching.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Goals scored with Robinson in the team, eight in eight league games plus the seven minutes he played against Swansea, goals scored without Robinson in the team six in ten in all competitions, plus the eighty three minutes when he wasn’t on the pitch at Swansea (he’s only played seven and a half matches actually, because he came on af half time at Millwall). Our goalscoring record with him in the team is poor, but so much better than when he’s missing.

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Thats exactly right, keep him fit we will be fine, if he's out we will struggle big time.

Sign a left back and keep Romeo fit, top half finish.

I'm not sure I've come across much blind positivity really. I guess the most positive opinion is that we aren't generally playing that bad etc.

If I'm honest, in all my years following City, the feeling that most floats to the surface is apathy.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I'm not sure I've come across much blind positivity really. I guess the most positive opinion is that we aren't generally playing that bad etc.

If I'm honest, in all my years following City, the feeling that most floats to the surface is apathy.

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I've spotted a few people that are 100% convinced we'll easily stay up, but you are right, my general feeling is slipping towards.........meh.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

I've spotted a few people that are 100% convinced we'll easily stay up, but you are right, my general feeling is slipping towards.........meh.

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I'll remain positive until after the next transfer window.
Only because i believe we are in a rebuilding stage and that we will bring in the players needed in January.

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Originally Posted by stan butler

I'll remain positive until after the next transfer window.
Only because i believe we are in a rebuilding stage and that we will bring in the players needed in January.

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And offload the several players clearly not up to the mark.
Campbell
Nelson
Watters
Harris
Everton loanee I cannot spell
Cannot get shot of Simpson, Ojo, Sawyers due to contracts unfortunately.
Be good if we can get McGuinness back. Will give us much needed height in defence, and at corners, even if his distribution suspect.

I’d be happier investing in a manager than the squad. I honestly don’t think the squad is that bad. Annoyingly the biggest issue is Morisons confidence in his system and gone against what he did so well in January. First thing he did in January was give us different options upfront and a lump to switch things up. Now we have nothing.

I’m confident we have the squad to stay up, not confident we will hire or have the right manager.

in the greater scheme of things none of these things really matter, the club existed before you were born and it will exist long after you are gone

I don't invest any worries or fears in a bunch of athletes who earn £20,000+ every week

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

in the greater scheme of things none of these things really matter, the club existed before you were born and it will exist long after you are gone

I don't invest any worries or fears in a bunch of athletes who earn £20,000+ every week

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Very deep, I was going to go to Tesco food shopping this morning but Fck it, we’re all going to die anyway haha