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Excess deaths ( non Covid ) are higher now than they were at the height of the Pandemic.
No reports on the MSM when it was non stop saturation at the height.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZJfVR9-wo
Data also available on PHE
I’m sceptical….
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TWGL1
Excess deaths ( non Covid ) are higher now than they were at the height of the Pandemic.
No reports on the MSM when it was non stop saturation at the height.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZJfVR9-wo
Data also available on PHE
It's probably due to the warm weather in October.
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Wales-Bales
It's probably due to the warm weather in October.
Because the only thing that can kill people is weather :shrug:
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The daily number of deaths in England was higher during the July heatwave than in the rest of the month, Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures show.
On average there were 1,224 deaths a day during July’s three “heat periods”, as labelled by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), which was 7% higher than the daily average across the rest of the month.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...t-of-the-month
Weird coincidence that…
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Canton Kev
The daily number of deaths in England was higher during the July heatwave than in the rest of the month, Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures show.
On average there were 1,224 deaths a day during July’s three “heat periods”, as labelled by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), which was 7% higher than the daily average across the rest of the month.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...t-of-the-month
Weird coincidence that…
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F
Health experts have warned that some of the unexplained deaths are being caused by collateral damage from the pandemic, when operations and treatments were cancelled or delayed as the health service concentrated on Covid.
The Government’s “stay at home, protect the NHS” message also left many people who needed medical treatment unwilling to bother the health service, or afraid they would catch coronavirus if they went into hospital.
The NHS is also struggling from long-term staffing issues and current shortages because of coronavirus, leading to record waits for ambulances, treatment and surgery.
Excess deaths are rising throughout the year , although heat would account for July/August
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TWGL1
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F
Health experts have warned that some of the unexplained deaths are being caused by collateral damage from the pandemic, when operations and treatments were cancelled or delayed as the health service concentrated on Covid.
The Government’s “stay at home, protect the NHS” message also left many people who needed medical treatment unwilling to bother the health service, or afraid they would catch coronavirus if they went into hospital.
The NHS is also struggling from long-term staffing issues and current shortages because of coronavirus, leading to record waits for ambulances, treatment and surgery.
Excess deaths are rising throughout the year , although heat would account for July/August
No doubt about it. There were/are plenty of delayed and missed appointments due to Covid and lockdown. We’ve also got something like 1.5m people still suffering the after effects of Covid. Even if only 10% of them have issues that require a GP appointment or medical attention that’s an extra 150,000 people being seen by the NHS that possibly wouldn’t have gone in sans Covid.
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TWGL1
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F
Health experts have warned that some of the unexplained deaths are being caused by collateral damage from the pandemic, when operations and treatments were cancelled or delayed as the health service concentrated on Covid.
The Government’s “stay at home, protect the NHS” message also left many people who needed medical treatment unwilling to bother the health service, or afraid they would catch coronavirus if they went into hospital.
The NHS is also struggling from long-term staffing issues and current shortages because of coronavirus, leading to record waits for ambulances, treatment and surgery.
Excess deaths are rising throughout the year , although heat would account for July/August
All of that rings true - although not all the NHS staffing problems are related to Covid.
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TWGL1
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F
Health experts have warned that some of the unexplained deaths are being caused by collateral damage from the pandemic, when operations and treatments were cancelled or delayed as the health service concentrated on Covid.
The Government’s “stay at home, protect the NHS” message also left many people who needed medical treatment unwilling to bother the health service, or afraid they would catch coronavirus if they went into hospital.
The NHS is also struggling from long-term staffing issues and current shortages because of coronavirus, leading to record waits for ambulances, treatment and surgery.
Excess deaths are rising throughout the year , although heat would account for July/August
Any comment from Boris, Whitty, Vallance, Van-Tam, etc?
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Gauging from the angry comments beneath a recent Wales Online article, linked below, people are increasingly catching on that alleged Covid-associated deaths are really from the poisonous needle.
15-year-old girl died suddenly from Covid complication on day of her vaccine - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...mments-wrapper
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Another British doctor expressing alarm at the rise in excess deaths and heart disease in countries that were Pfizered. He joins another UK youtube doc in John Campbell and top heart specialist Dr Aseem Malhotra who described Pfizer as 'psychopathic'. It appears more doctors are becoming un-baffled with each day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D6Awh9wUzU
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Organ Morgan.
Gauging from the angry comments beneath a recent Wales Online article, linked below, people are increasingly catching on that alleged Covid-associated deaths are really from the poisonous needle.
15-year-old girl died suddenly from Covid complication on day of her vaccine -
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...mments-wrapper
You may want to re-read the Wales online article. She hadn't had the vaccine. She was due to have the vaccine the day she died.
I'm no Doctor, but i'm going to say with a bit of confidence that a vaccine someone hasn't had can't cause their death.
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Organ Morgan.
Another British doctor expressing alarm at the rise in excess deaths and heart disease in countries that were Pfizered. He joins another UK youtube doc in John Campbell and top heart specialist Dr Aseem Malhotra who described Pfizer as 'psychopathic'. It appears more doctors are becoming un-baffled with each day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D6Awh9wUzU
I wonder how many, as a percentage of Doctors, would agree with these 3 Doctors.
And how many of the total number are on youtube.
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superfeathers
You may want to re-read the Wales online article. She hadn't had the vaccine. She was due to have the vaccine the day she died.
I'm no Doctor, but i'm going to say with a bit of confidence that a vaccine someone hasn't had can't cause their death.
Don’t let facts get in the way of things now
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Gauging from the angry comments beneath a recent Wales Online article, linked below, people are increasingly catching on that alleged Covid-associated deaths are really from the poisonous needle.
15-year-old girl died suddenly from Covid complication on day of her vaccine -
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...mments-wrapper
What a cock you really are, probably wont come back and appologise for mis information, perhaps she may have survived if she had been vaccinated prior to catching covid, just a thought :shrug:
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Organ's never read and fully understood an article in his life and he's certainly not going to get bullied into starting now by a bunch of teletubbies.
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Packerman
What a cock you really are, probably wont come back and appologise for mis information, perhaps she may have survived if she had been vaccinated prior to catching covid, just a thought :shrug:
It’s unlikely that the MSM will even report on deaths related to the vaccine. The only outlet I’ve seen is GB news and the odd article here and there.
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TWGL1
It’s unlikely that the MSM will even report on deaths related to the vaccine. The only outlet I’ve seen is GB news and the odd article here and there.
Do you want them to make up deaths to help fall in line with your agenda?
Even if they weren't reporting them it would be fine, because there's plenty of people like Organ posting stuff that didn't even happen, like the article above where someone died WHO HADNT HAD THE VACCINE and saying that it was because of the vaccine.
You posted a link not so long ago which included facts that the government and scientists had stated and tried to make out like it was some sort of conspiracy / news.
There's lots out there too. Truly mind-boggling.
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superfeathers
Do you want them to make up deaths to help fall in line with your agenda?
Even if they weren't reporting them it would be fine, because there's plenty of people like Organ posting stuff that didn't even happen, like the article above where someone died WHO HADNT HAD THE VACCINE and saying that it was because of the vaccine.
You posted a link not so long ago which included facts that the government and scientists had stated and tried to make out like it was some sort of conspiracy / news.
There's lots out there too. Truly mind-boggling.
I don’t want anyone to make anything up, I just stated I would prefer balanced reporting, which is what I’ve said.
Ultimately I’m more worried about climate change and flu at the moment as I support the current thing.
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TWGL1
I don’t want anyone to make anything up, I just stated I would prefer balanced reporting, which is what I’ve said.
Ultimately I’m more worried about climate change and flu at the moment as I support the current thing.
What's the current thing you support?
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cyril evans awaydays
What's the current thing you support?
Electricity?
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superfeathers
I wonder how many, as a percentage of Doctors, would agree with these 3 Doctors.
And how many of the total number are on youtube.
At the time I think some 97% of doctors agreed Covid19 was 100% natural and hadn't come out of a laboratory in China.Slowly but surely they started to question this hypothesis, and in the last couple of months most of the major medical and scientific institutions have said that in all probability the virus has had genetic modifications and had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. You probably wouldn't have wanted to hear that 2 years ago when China was running the WHO, but the same thing is happening re. the vaccine[s]. There's danming evidence as to their efficacy and after-effects, and I expect we'll soon be learning a lot more about the latter as the months/years roll by..
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A Quiet Monkfish
At the time I think some 97% of doctors agreed Covid19 was 100% natural and hadn't come out of a laboratory in China.Slowly but surely they started to question this hypothesis, and in the last couple of months most of the major medical and scientific institutions have said that in all probability the virus has had genetic modifications and had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. You probably wouldn't have wanted to hear that 2 years ago when China was running the WHO, but the same thing is happening re. the vaccine[s]. There's danming evidence as to their efficacy and after-effects, and I expect we'll soon be learning a lot more about the latter as the months/years roll by..
Those who are still alive!
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A Quiet Monkfish
At the time I think some 97% of doctors agreed Covid19 was 100% natural and hadn't come out of a laboratory in China.Slowly but surely they started to question this hypothesis, and in the last couple of months most of the major medical and scientific institutions have said that in all probability the virus has had genetic modifications and had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. You probably wouldn't have wanted to hear that 2 years ago when China was running the WHO, but the same thing is happening re. the vaccine[s]. There's danming evidence as to their efficacy and after-effects, and I expect we'll soon be learning a lot more about the latter as the months/years roll by..
That's just not true though, is it. I think what you mean, is that if you search for that term, you'll find enough people happy to write articles on dubious websites.
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superfeathers
That's just not true though, is it. I think what you mean, is that if you search for that term, you'll find enough people happy to write articles on dubious websites.
Just to begin :
https://www.economist.com/science-an...ic-engineering
But this argument is done - You'll accept and believe the prevailing mantra, I'll question it.
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A Quiet Monkfish
It's the Russia collusion hoax all over again. Rinse & repeat.
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A Quiet Monkfish
From what I can read in that article, before the paywall kicks in, this claim is not peer reviewed and "Two recent publications appear to have bolstered the case for a natural origin connected to a “wet market” in Wuhan."
I assume it gets a bit more convincing afterwards? Must say, I'm surprised it's not been peer reviewed considering you say that most major medical and scientific institutions are on that side of the fence
I'm sure you'll be ok with me questioning this article, right?
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Over zealous lockdown measure has greatly impacted on peoples health , mental strengths , education , jobs and inflation .
And for what ??
ws:
Median age in years Median age in years Mean age in years Mean age in years
Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19 Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19
Persons 83 83 80.3 80.4
Male 81 81 78.6 78.7
Female 85 85 82.3 82.5
Notes
Based on deaths registered in England and Wales up to and including week ending 2nd October.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...iedwithcovid19
The Covid deaths are same average nearly ??
2015-17 2018-20
Life Expectancy at birth Median age at death
UK 82.9 85.8
England 83.1 86.1
Wales 82.3 85.2
Should have just protected the elderly / vulnerable and let life crack on .. I know children who won't go to school out of fear . and adults wont go out ...........or report early poor health as they are scared of hospital visits .
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It's the Russia collusion hoax all over again. Rinse & repeat.
What was the Russia Collusion Hoax?
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life on mars
Over zealous lockdown measure has greatly impacted on peoples health , mental strengths , education , jobs and inflation .
And for what ??
ws:
Median age in years Median age in years Mean age in years Mean age in years
Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19 Involving COVID-19 Due to COVID-19
Persons 83 83 80.3 80.4
Male 81 81 78.6 78.7
Female 85 85 82.3 82.5
Notes
Based on deaths registered in England and Wales up to and including week ending 2nd October.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...iedwithcovid19
The Covid deaths are same average nearly ??
2015-17 2018-20
Life Expectancy at birth Median age at death
UK 82.9 85.8
England 83.1 86.1
Wales 82.3 85.2
Should have just protected the elderly / vulnerable and let life crack on .. I know children who won't go to school out of fear . and adults wont go out ...........or report early poor health as they are scared of hospital visits .
There is no way that you know children (plural) who don't to school and adults (plural) who don't go out because they are still scared of covid.
DHOTYA contender.
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A Quiet Monkfish
I'm not sure what you mean now.
That article, just in the headline, uses both "Controversial new research suggests" and "SARS-CoV-2 bears signs of genetic engineering
The claim has yet to be peer-reviewed"
I honestly don't know if that was intended to back up my argument or yours, but I honestly thought that given that was your starting point it would've been something convincing..
I'm also not opposed to questioning the mainstream media, just would want to do it based on reliably sourced facts
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jon1959
What was the Russia Collusion Hoax?
People getting their information from propaganda outlets, and then trying to convince the world that it was all true.
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lardy
From what I can read in that article, before the paywall kicks in, this claim is not peer reviewed and "Two recent publications appear to have bolstered the case for a natural origin connected to a “wet market” in Wuhan."
I assume it gets a bit more convincing afterwards? Must say, I'm surprised it's not been peer reviewed considering you say that most major medical and scientific institutions are on that side of the fence
I'm sure you'll be ok with me questioning this article, right?
Of course. questioning, debate, all for it !
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A Quiet Monkfish
Of course. questioning, debate, all for it !
Great!
Let's start with this:
"in the last couple of months most of the major medical and scientific institutions have said that in all probability the virus has had genetic modifications and had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. "
I'm questioning this sentence. Care to debate it?
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Wales-Bales
People getting their information from propaganda outlets, and then trying to convince the world that it was all true.
The irony here is truly quite remarkable
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Canton Kev
The irony here is truly quite remarkable
I thought it was just me thinking that!
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lardy
Great!
Let's start with this:
"in the last couple of months most of the major medical and scientific institutions have said that in all probability the virus has had genetic modifications and had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. "
I'm questioning this sentence. Care to debate it?
Which Lab's
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life on mars
Which Lab's
Which Labs?
Great Question. Over to the people who decry the prevailing mantra and don't get their information from propaganda outlets, I guess.
They both have gone on record to say Covid was just like common flu and one of them said it was going to be like Y2K, so we should at least hear them out!
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life on mars
Which Lab's
The University Of Madey Tup.
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superfeathers
I'm not sure what you mean now.
That article, just in the headline, uses both "Controversial new research suggests" and "SARS-CoV-2 bears signs of genetic engineering
The claim has yet to be peer-reviewed"
I honestly don't know if that was intended to back up my argument or yours, but I honestly thought that given that was your starting point it would've been something convincing..
I'm also not opposed to questioning the mainstream media, just would want to do it based on reliably sourced facts
Any scientist with the education, experience, qualifications and ability to get a job in an institution with the funding and instruments to deeply analyse the genetic make up of a virus will have years of involvement with the peer review process as it's a core part of scientific progress.
But apparently it doesn't matter this one time for some reason.
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lardy
Any scientist with the education, experience, qualifications and ability to get a job in an institution with the funding and instruments to deeply analyse the genetic make up of a virus will have years of involvement with the peer review process as it's a core part of scientific progress.
But apparently it doesn't matter this one time for some reason.
I don’t think Covid19 has actually been isolated has it ?
I know it’s similar to flu \ cold from the times I’ve “tested positive “
