Having witnessed up close exactly what you've done to this club.
You reap what you sow.
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Having witnessed up close exactly what you've done to this club.
You reap what you sow.
Unprofessional piss poor defending from players who should know better cannot be blamed on Tan.
Piss poor throughout the pitchQuote:
Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird
I think that the attempt to change our style of play has meant morison panicked and signed players who were in several cases very poor
But we are in November now and its time to work with the squad that we have
The players and the manager are about to show us if they have any guts and passion
We know the answer to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
We need more than guts or passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Its November now. The style of play is if anything getting worse. Its abysmal to watch at the moment and we have next to no physical threat.
We now have the ridiculous sight of our keeper smashing long balls from just inside our own half when we have no height up front.
Hopefully Davies Adams Colwill Bagan Denham coming back improve us and MacGuiness has to come back.
We also need to start offloading players in the window.
Harsh mind, he's invested a fortune of his own personal money, imagine how bad he does feel after having to watch that, it's costing him millions of pounds a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Hopefully, he may take advice now and get in a football man.
Well you'd like to think the stubborn fool would see the shower of $hit he has created and was acted out in front of him this evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Then again that is wishful thinking. Let the brains trust at City come together and make another great decision for the next manager. Let's hope they strike lucky as we're a crap decision or two from the self appointed experts from being in League 1.
He'll be scratchin' his head no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
To be fair to Morison he was tasked with terminating most of the original squad and replacing them with free players. Apart from the money Tan invested in Robinson (and sacked Morison a week later) he provided the manager with zero funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It was Morison idea to change our style which was well overdue.
I remember the opening game against Norwich, the win, the way we played, and thought we were well and truly turning a corner.
After 10 games he was fired.
Changes of style and personnel take time to develop as we are seeing with Hudson (who is worse than Morison) yet we still try to blame him for the decline which is totally at the door of both Tan and Dalman.
Their managerial decisions over the years have been dreadful
weirdly I did quite enjoy that match even though we lost
it's november and guts and passion etc etc
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Originally Posted by DubaiDai
Morison didn't have to terminate anyones contract, the likes of Bacuna, Flint, Pack and Vaulks were at the end of their contracts.
Morison was negligent in his responsibility for not signing two established forwards and another centre half to play alongside Kipre, instead he went with quantity over quality and the approach seemed to be, let's hope the first 11 never get injured.
Heaven help us if Allsopp is injured as we dont have adequate back up
We have Noukonko and Campbell who should be returned in January, Sawyers and Ojo who are a disgrace to their profession
Etete and Tanner who are projects????
The jury is out with Simpson
Our squad has Whyte, Nelson, Watters and Harris in in it, and none of them would get into another Championship squad.
Romeo,Collins, Kipre, Wintle, Ng, Ralls Robinson and Rimohota are decent Championship players
Bagan and Davies will hopefully make it, and anyone with half a brain cell would build a team around Colwill.
Morison failed spectacularly in his opportunity to make the grade as a Championship manager and none of the other clubs who have parted with their managers in the Championship have come knocking on his door.
Neither have any clubs from League one or two for that matter and I doubt that any of the will anytime soon.
Hudson has to pick up the mess that Morison created and he needs time and support to do this.
To say that Hudson is doing a worst job than Morison is complete crap, give him the chance and time to get the best out of the players he can, and move the deadwood on
Odowda is the only decent winger we have, yet Morison was claiming we had 4??
Top rant!Quote:
Originally Posted by olderblue
Although Harris is a good Championship player - if not an out-and-out striker - and we can't 'return' Campbell anywhere.
Are you suggesting that basic skills , poor attitude , ineffective effort , under performance ,against an average side is Tan's fault ?? However average these players maybe i, they should have beaten Hull or at a minimum not lost ..Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
He's some multi whose obsessed. Just check his posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
One of the club bashers minions over here to stir
I'm suggesting that Vincent Tan picked the manager who sent the team out to play, is responsible for morale within the squad, sets the game plan and tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I am suggesting that Vincent Tan, while being a member of our self appointed transfer committee had final say on all of the signings in our squad. Basically all of it.
I've noticed that VT has distanced himself from the bad signings in his recent interview. He accuses them of wasting his money. So we have a man within our transfer committee who has virtually admitted to agreeing to signings that he has no real clue about.
My post was a post aimed at Vincent Tan, though I doubt he would ever read it. I hoped that he enjoyed watching the monster that he has created. We can and should have beaten Hull but Vincent Tan has created a squad and manager that got beaten. We can't ask for a re-count at the end of the season if we go down because we should have beaten some. Points are awarded on actual results. Those are the facts.
Club basher? 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by stan butler
You on the other hand are some odd job who has fabricated that I want Sam back for daring to question the owner and his decisions.
You also seem to follow me around like a stale guff on here too for some reason while adding nothing to the thread as usual.
The last few years of cutting and cutting the budget has left us with a cheap team, led by a cheap manager, backed by cheap coaching. How Uncle Vinnie can be even slightly surprised is beyond me. As a businessman, he must know that if you get rid of all your good staff, and you don't replace them, then your business will start to falter, and if nothing is done, it will begin to fail. Your customers will drift away, and things will get worse and worse. We need to recruit, and do it properly - no more cheap signings, in any position.
I'd pick Harris before Ojo every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I’d pick Brian Harris before him, and he’s long gone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Ojo was ok last time he was with usQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
I would agree with that. He did have his flaws and concentration problems, but i do think that there is a player in there somewhere. NYC Blue made a good point recently. something along the lines of his head isn't quite right. There seems to be a theme with some modern day footballers who rely on technical ability, in terms that if they start badly, they don't seem to recover, things get progressively worse. I don't know if that's down to how they are expected to play. 20 years ago, a player like ojo etc could back out of taking risks and playing with their back to goal by turning themselves around and just doing the basics, in short, just doing the bear minimum so that they didn't put themselves in positions of failure. That isn't an option in todays game as forward thinking midfielders are expected to get ob the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Ir's a difficult position to be in and one that needs a fast start if things are to flourish, and i do wonder about the intelligence levels of players like ojo, it's like they've been coached so hard that to make personal adjustments is outside of their remit. He's never going to be a world beater, but i do believe that if things are right for him and if he can use some intelligence on the pitch, then he will make a positive contribution. There's a lack of character out there sometimes, and i do think that the modern young player is coached so hard that some of them just can't take their foot off the coaching manual pedal and play outside what is failing. I hope that he comes good. I'll also add that i believe that young modern coaches need to adjust, or allow players to adjust when things are failing. There seems to be a puerile element in terms of how football should be played now.
We can’t recruit “properly” now because of the abysmal recruitment when we did have money to spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by tforturton
Ojo is lacking confidence currently, but the poor first touch which handed Hull possession inside our own half for their first two goals has always been there. He has pace, power and decent ability once he has the ball under control, but he has very little game intelligence and is so frustrating to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
So much self sabotage and the bitterness runs deepQuote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
There were people that wanted us to fail when we were doing well, and happy we’re failing now
Weird attitudes
No more than ok in my opinion. I wonder what Liverpool ever saw in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Am I bitter about the way the club has been run and continues to be run? Definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I want us to do well which is why I am not happy with what is happening here.
If anything, saying everything is great when it clearly isn't is more likely to see us spiral to League 1 with the handbrake off than it is if we demand better.
The head of our so called transfer committee has come out during the last few days accusing previous managers of having him over on transfers that didn't work out.
You're the head of the transfer committee ffs. You put yourself in that position and thought yourself to be above taking advice or employing somebody with more knowledge.
He gets no sympathy from me. The problem here is the Tan apologists that believe he is a top owner while we make the same mistakes repeatedly and slide down the league.
The mistakes are personnel and it’s Choo and Dalman that are clearly at fault here.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
He’s done his bit
He picked both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I could half understand it if he held his hands up and confirmed that in hindsight they aren't up to it. He hasn't and isn't looking like doing any time soon.
He says that he is not an idiot.
Trying the same thing again and again, namely putting in cheap and inexperienced coaches and hoping for the best with not much support or knowledge above, is bordering on idiotic territory without doubt.
How some seem to think that wanting promotion is somehow outlining a plan is beyond me.
If we continue doing things the way we currently are then I feel that what VT wants and what he gets will be two different things.
Maybe promotion from league 1Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
If that is what Tan meant then he is closer to that than promotion from the Championship with this squad, no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
I thought you were talking about the manager ,whose team are currently top of the Championship