Jonathon Pie - strikes

https://youtu.be/Gljtvwhcdhc

If you don't support these strikes you're an utter mug. 12 years of pay cuts (below inflation pay rises) has seen large drops in NHS staff while having to try and use agency workers at a significant cost instead.

Why do we have certain elements of the population who do nothing but bash people on benefits, but then also froth at the mouth at workers who want decent pay and conditions (similar to previous generations).

Why do pay and conditions have to get worse and worse every single year in the eyes of tory voters while the billionaire class gets richer and richer?

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Originally Posted by Doucas

https://youtu.be/Gljtvwhcdhc

If you don't support these strikes you're an utter mug. 12 years of pay cuts (below inflation pay rises) has seen large drops in NHS staff while having to try and use agency workers at a significant cost instead.

Why do we have certain elements of the population who do nothing but bash people on benefits, but then also froth at the mouth at workers who want decent pay and conditions (similar to previous generations).

Why do pay and conditions have to get worse and worse every single year in the eyes of tory voters while the billionaire class gets richer and richer?

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Saw this yesterday. Agee with every word.

This is the most corrupt, lying government in our history. Levelling up my arse. General election now.

UP the workers!!!

I don't support particular strikes, I just take the view that I agree with the right to strike and move on. I'm not LOM, it isn't my job to pick who is or isn't worthy of a certain percentage increase.

NHS is interesting because they can't recruit and still seem ideologically opposed to recognising that and increasing wages to a point where people feel incentivised enough to commit to the training and eventually take on the work.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

https://youtu.be/Gljtvwhcdhc

If you don't support these strikes you're an utter mug. 12 years of pay cuts (below inflation pay rises) has seen large drops in NHS staff while having to try and use agency workers at a significant cost instead.

Why do we have certain elements of the population who do nothing but bash people on benefits, but then also froth at the mouth at workers who want decent pay and conditions (similar to previous generations).

Why do pay and conditions have to get worse and worse every single year in the eyes of tory voters while the billionaire class gets richer and richer?

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You been reading The Ladybird Book of Socialist Politics again, eh ?

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

You been reading The Ladybird Book of Socialist Politics again, eh ?

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What have I said that's wrong? Have nurses not had below inflation pay rises for 12 years?

It's a great rant, but rather meaningless once you realise it's the WEF who are pulling all the strings while being cheered on by the likes of Lardy & Cyril.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

https://youtu.be/Gljtvwhcdhc

If you don't support these strikes you're an utter mug. 12 years of pay cuts (below inflation pay rises) has seen large drops in NHS staff while having to try and use agency workers at a significant cost instead.

Why do we have certain elements of the population who do nothing but bash people on benefits, but then also froth at the mouth at workers who want decent pay and conditions (similar to previous generations).

Why do pay and conditions have to get worse and worse every single year in the eyes of tory voters while the billionaire class gets richer and richer?

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Spot on.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

What have I said that's wrong? Have nurses not had below inflation pay rises for 12 years?

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You've said nothing wrong 'ol fruit. It's your opinion and you're entitled to air it, but don't say anyone who doesn't support the strikes is a mug - it's their view, and like you entitled to voice it if they wish

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

You've said nothing wrong 'ol fruit. It's your opinion and you're entitled to air it, but don't say anyone who doesn't support the strikes is a mug - it's their view, and like you entitled to voice it if they wish

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Fair point but don't they deserve to get called out/ridiculed if they're dim or selfish enough to have inappropriate views?

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Fair point but don't they deserve to get called out/ridiculed if they're dim or selfish enough to have inappropriate views?

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What do you mean by inappropriate views ?

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

Saw this yesterday. Agee with every word.

This is the most corrupt, lying government in our history. Levelling up my arse. General election now.

UP the workers!!!

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All this Government has left is trying to appeal to Farage’s mob (Starmer seems to want to do that as well :facepalm:), trying to play the union “barons” card and kicking the can down the road when it comes to Government debt for the next two years - they’ve got nothing left.

The only strikes I support are the ones that hit the back of the net .. the rest can follow their leaders into the political wildernesses followed by eventual jobs loss ,less job security for younger generations, more automation, inflation, higher prices, pension deficits.

It would have been more caring and just to have waited until after this first Covid free festive period and harden winter pressures due to the war ..

Some folk have not spent Xmas with relatives for years now they thought could travel, by train , only to be thwarted by greed..and political opportunities.

If I was government I'd introduce basic salaries and wage rises based on inflation going up and down ..

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Originally Posted by life on mars

If I was government I'd introduce basic salaries and wage rises based on inflation going up and down ..

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Totally agree.

11% across the board for all public sector workers.👍

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Originally Posted by Doucas

What have I said that's wrong? Have nurses not had below inflation pay rises for 12 years?

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Yet you stated yesterday in a thread (which appeared directed at me ) that you could really give two hoots if people with their own businesses with numerous employees went down the pan.

I think it may not go ahead anyway

https://twitter.com/iromg/status/160...uWl90SOpSd3IIA

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Totally agree.

11% across the board for all public sector workers.👍

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:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The only strikes I support are the ones that hit the back of the net .. the rest can follow their leaders into the political wildernesses followed by eventual jobs loss ,less job security for younger generations, more automation, inflation, higher prices, pension deficits.

It would have been more caring and just to have waited until after this first Covid free festive period and harden winter pressures due to the war ..

Some folk have not spent Xmas with relatives for years now they thought could travel, by train , only to be thwarted by greed..and political opportunities.

If I was government I'd introduce basic salaries and wage rises based on inflation going up and down ..

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'Greed and political opportunities'?

Really?

Your endless party political posts for the Tory party are beyond tedious!

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The only strikes I support are the ones that hit the back of the net .. the rest can follow their leaders into the political wildernesses followed by eventual jobs loss ,less job security for younger generations, more automation, inflation, higher prices, pension deficits.

It would have been more caring and just to have waited until after this first Covid free festive period and harden winter pressures due to the war ..

Some folk have not spent Xmas with relatives for years now they thought could travel, by train , only to be thwarted by greed..and political opportunities.

If I was government I'd introduce basic salaries and wage rises based on inflation going up and down ..

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You have got my vote young man. My salary would be 40% more than it is currently if it had been linked to inflation since the year 2000. When should I expect my backpay?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Yet you stated yesterday in a thread (which appeared directed at me ) that you could really give two hoots if people with their own businesses with numerous employees went down the pan.

I think it may not go ahead anyway

https://twitter.com/iromg/status/160...uWl90SOpSd3IIA

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I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

You've said nothing wrong 'ol fruit. It's your opinion and you're entitled to air it, but don't say anyone who doesn't support the strikes is a mug - it's their view, and like you entitled to voice it if they wish

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I don't understand this at all. Yeah of course people are entitled to their views just as I'm entitled to call them mugs if they cheer for billionaires getting richer while living standards plummet.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

'Greed and political opportunities'?

Really?

Your endless party political posts for the Tory party are beyond tedious!

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There are quite a few nobs out there sadly

slave, bitch, whore , fetus just some of the words banned by the new york times from their wordel. mr pie a man of words works for the ny times , burning books one word at a time.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

I don't understand this at all. Yeah of course people are entitled to their views just as I'm entitled to call them mugs if they cheer for billionaires getting richer while living standards plummet.

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Who's cheering for the 150 odd billionaires in the UK ? They don't bother me, and each one is probably paying for a small hospital. Getting worked up about people who are rich isn't good for the health.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Who's cheering for the 150 odd billionaires in the UK ? They don't bother me, and each one is probably paying for a small hospital. Getting worked up about people who are rich isn't good for the health.

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The people who come out of the cracks every time anybody mentions trying to tax wealth rather than income. Society is so unequal today that the tax system is completely out of date.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Who's cheering for the 150 odd billionaires in the UK ? They don't bother me, and each one is probably paying for a small hospital. Getting worked up about people who are rich isn't good for the health.

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Such an ignorant post. So are the newspapers not controlled by the billionaire class? How about our politicians?

So if more billionaires are better for the UK how come literally everything seems to get getting worse including plummeting living standards despite having more richer billionaires than ever? This was happening before Ukraine and covid.

Did it ever occur to you the average person would pay more tax if we didn't have an economic system that hoovers money to the top at the expense of everyone else.

My wealth/income last year was above 6 figures, a third of it was house price increases, another third from investments and the last third from work. Guess which one was taxed the most.

I'm not jealous, I've got my lot, I'm beyond angry.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

My wealth/income last year was above 6 figures, a third of it was house price increases, another third from investments and the last third from work. Guess which one was taxed the most.

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Bingo and Rishi's answer was not to increase capital gains tax but to lower the capital gains tax free threshold, i.e. a large effective % change on small investors and barely any change for medium/large investors.

From every angle, lower/middle are being squeezed to death while the government preserve the wealthy.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

Such an ignorant post. So are the newspapers not controlled by the billionaire class? How about our politicians?

So if more billionaires are better for the UK how come literally everything seems to get getting worse including plummeting living standards despite having more richer billionaires than ever? This was happening before Ukraine and covid.

Did it ever occur to you the average person would pay more tax if we didn't have an economic system that hoovers money to the top at the expense of everyone else.

My wealth/income last year was above 6 figures, a third of it was house price increases, another third from investments and the last third from work. Guess which one was taxed the most.

I'm not jealous, I've got my lot, I'm beyond angry.

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Getting personal again. It's only a football message board. And stop bragging !!!!

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Getting personal again. It's only a football message board. And stop bragging !!!!

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So as expected you don't have a coherent response.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There are quite a few nobs out there sadly

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I think I have sussed out who you are, John.

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

I think I have sussed out who you are, John.

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You are no detective

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Fair point but don't they deserve to get called out/ridiculed if they're dim or selfish enough to have inappropriate views?

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So.......

Anyone who disagrees with you has "inappropriate views"????????

Who is being an arrogant little sod today then?????

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You are no detective

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Ok

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

So.......

Anyone who disagrees with you has "inappropriate views"????????

Who is being an arrogant little sod today then?????

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Now let me see....Elwood Blues!!! Like someone else said you've waken up a bit Victor Meldrew old fruit!

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Now let me see....Elwood Blues!!! Like someone else said you've waken up a bit Victor Meldrew old fruit!

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Is this a five minute argument

Or the full half hour!!

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Ok

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You deffo need to get another job

Good luck

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

You've said nothing wrong 'ol fruit. It's your opinion and you're entitled to air it, but don't say anyone who doesn't support the strikes is a mug - it's their view, and like you entitled to voice it if they wish

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I like that monk can quite nicely slag off everyone that supports the strikes,,,without offering an opinion other than that is the opposite ..'f'kin loser

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

Is this a five minute argument

Or the full half hour!!

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How much time have you got? I've got all my ammo lined up Vic

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Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK

I like that monk can quite nicely slag off everyone that supports the strikes,,,without offering an opinion other than that is the opposite ..'f'kin loser

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I think the 'loser' is someone who's so inadequate they have to be abusive.