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Cyclists on the roads
Serious question, do you consider it to be the right decision to push cyclists to ride on roads, or the wrong decision?
Article on Wales online about that bloke being hit by a much larger vehicle and being killed.
This decision always gets to me, I'll be honest. I honestly think it's bad both ways.
Firstly cyclists are at risk, and the mercy of dickhead drivers, and we know there's plenty of them on the roads...
On the flip side, cyclists are a right pain in the bollocks to motorists, especially when they get clever and weave between traffic etc...
Not a good move was this one as far as I'm concerned!
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Wouldn't be a cure all but a good start would be to introduce a test before you let them on the road. After all, drivers gotta do it.
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They should be made to wear bright yellow reflective clothing, so we can see the little F eckers .
Most of them are in black clothing
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sneggyblubird
Wouldn't be a cure all but a good start would be to introduce a test before you let them on the road. After all, drivers gotta do it.
It's hard to tell alot of the time if a driver has passed a test or not.
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I have cycled quite a lot but some of the cyclists I see these days scare me, plodding along like they are on Valium out in the middle of the rd, I’m just surprised there aren’t more serious accidents….
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I'd love to cycle more but going on the roads makes me nervous, we need much more cycling infrastructure like the Dutch have.
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Some of them must think they’re saving money on their energy bills by not having lights.
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Push em into hedges , rivers, puddles , trees or parked cars until they show the same respect as car drivers and pedestrians are expected to deliver , why can they go through red lights , cycle across zebra crossings , take over inside , not stop at roundabouts /junctions ,give way , use pavements , drive into shops to park bikes , go through paved city centres , through banned cycle routes such as nature reserves . clog up trains and buses ,cycle two abreast .wear Lycra
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Push em into hedges , rivers, puddles , trees or parked cars until they show the same respect as car drivers and pedestrians are expected to deliver , why can they go through red lights , cycle across zebra crossings , take over inside , not stop at roundabouts /junctions ,give way , use pavements , drive into shops to park bikes , go through paved city centres , through banned cycle routes such as nature reserves . clog up trains and buses ,cycle two abreast .wear Lycra
It's the ones wearing lycra that tend to be the more law abiding. It's the others, rushing around delivering Sludges kebabs that tend to break more rules.
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Originally Posted by
Ninja
Serious question, do you consider it to be the right decision to push cyclists to ride on roads, or the wrong decision?
Article on Wales online about that bloke being hit by a much larger vehicle and being killed.
This decision always gets to me, I'll be honest. I honestly think it's bad both ways.
Firstly cyclists are at risk, and the mercy of dickhead drivers, and we know there's plenty of them on the roads...
On the flip side, cyclists are a right pain in the bollocks to motorists, especially when they get clever and weave between traffic etc...
Not a good move was this one as far as I'm concerned!
You have to remember a used bike can cost as little as £5, so a lot of cyclists, (most of the bad ones) are fairly young, inexperienced in life and danger, and a bit dopey half the time.
It's not ideal but cut them some slack we were all young once, give them some room and maybe a few beeps to let them know you are there as they'll probably have earphones in and be miles away in their own little world.
As there are no tests to take or number plates to report bad cycling expect the worst and for them to jump red lights and ignore the 20 mph speed limits, they are just another one of life's annoyances!
No, they are not really safe on the roads, I drive, cycle, and walk, and cycling is the most dangerous, I try and avoid roads and use the cycle paths and taff trail etc. Like all modes some are good, some are terrible, and most are somewhere in between.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Push em into hedges , rivers, puddles , trees or parked cars until they show the same respect as car drivers and pedestrians are expected to deliver , why can they go through red lights , cycle across zebra crossings , take over inside , not stop at roundabouts /junctions ,give way , use pavements , drive into shops to park bikes , go through paved city centres , through banned cycle routes such as nature reserves . clog up trains and buses ,cycle two abreast .wear Lycra
Because they can get over it, a lot of drivers do the same, especially ram raiders.
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As someone who used to cycle-commute in London ( :yikes: ) I am appalled at the way cyclists behave and don't care about being visible around Cardiff.
They wouldn't last 5 minute in London.
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I bike everyday, Drivers could at least learn to indicate.
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bobh
As someone who used to cycle-commute in London ( :yikes: ) I am appalled at the way cyclists behave and don't care about being visible around Cardiff.
They wouldn't last 5 minute in London.
Around 6/7pm the Uber/deliveroo food delivery cyclists are by far the worst, how a good few haven’t been wiped out around Roath already I’ll never know
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Anyone cycling on the road is either mad or brave. A significant minority of drivers shouldn't be on the road.
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Hilts
Anyone cycling on the road is either mad or brave. A significant minority of drivers shouldn't be on the road.
Especially the young girls mostly that text or look at Instagram while they are driving, you can see their heads looking down then up, eyes off the road for seconds at a time!
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Hilts
Anyone cycling on the road is either mad or brave. A significant minority of drivers shouldn't be on the road.
True story short. Gf was going to take driving lessons...she did a few hours with a friend then did a whole day with someone else. That was it! she was ready...went to the driving center to take her test...."sorry we don't have any test instructors today"...Bam! She was given her driving license. That's how they do it in the Philippines
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North Cardiff Blue
Especially the young girls mostly that text or look at Instagram while they are driving, you can see their heads looking down then up, eyes off the road for seconds at a time!
Next safety feature to be added to cars - cellphone blocker!
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bobh
Next safety feature to be added to cars - cellphone blocker!
Good idea to be fair.
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ToTaL ITK
True story short. Gf was going to take driving lessons...she did a few hours with a friend then did a whole day with someone else. That was it! she was ready...went to the driving center to take her test...."sorry we don't have any test instructors today"...Bam! She was given her driving license. That's how they do it in the Philippines
Everyone should take a UK driving test before being allowed to drive.
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North Cardiff Blue
Everyone should take a UK driving test before being allowed to drive.
Don't worry..she doesn't have a car or drive...and i live abroad...you are safe
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ToTaL ITK
Don't worry..she doesn't have a car or drive...and i live abroad...you are safe
phew :thumbup:
If you moved here could she use the license here?
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Originally Posted by
sneggyblubird
Wouldn't be a cure all but a good start would be to introduce a test before you let them on the road. After all, drivers gotta do it.
And pay a road tax.
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I used to cycle on the roads a lot not anymore.
The roads are full of pricks in 4 x 4s trying to get 1 car space in front on another person.
I also hate driving now I'd say 90 % of the car drivers I encounter on my commute have had their brains removed.
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Cleve van Leef
And pay a road tax.
Why? Car drivers don't.
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Alan Lung
Why? Car drivers don't.
Me thinks you better check that statement ?
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BLUETIT
Me thinks you better check that statement ?
If you mean vehicle excise duty, which is based on emissions, then many drivers don't pay it either.
Roads are maintained through general taxation.
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The Bloop
If you mean vehicle excise duty, which is based on emissions, then many drivers don't pay it either.
Roads are maintained through general taxation.
So they are paying a road tax, you’ve just called it by it’s proper name
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Bikes should have some form of registration and responsibility they can cause accidents ,injuries, few times I've been cut up from inside from a cyclists forcing me to look his way ,break or swerve and in turn not see oncoming cars to the right , It's becoming an issue..
A couple of mature cyclists yes with lycia on once overtook me left and right crossing the roundabout towards Morisons towards tax office , other cars screamed blue murder ,they didn't give a feck . There's a certain ""were always in the right "" and arrogance sneaking into the cycling world . Being a car driver I feel most are far better aware of thier surroundings and responsibilities, than both cyclists and pedestrians. If they weren't far more deaths would occur
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Bikes should have some form of registration and responsibility they can cause accidents ,injuries, few times I've been cut up from inside from a cyclists forcing me to look his way ,break or swerve and in turn not see oncoming cars to the right , It's becoming an issue..
If cyclists were charged, for instance, £20 a year based on the weight of the vehicle then cars should be charged at the same rate, which is over a million pounds. How about that?
There are good and bad cyclists. I've used pavements when there's no room on the roads but I'm careful and dismount if I have to. And there are good and bad drivers - the (fewer) bad ones don't give you any room, don't indicate, don't give way, and - always a joy - park on cycle lanes.
By the way, could all those paying "road tax" pay a bit more to fix the roads? I'm concerned about my prostate.
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
You have to remember a used bike can cost as little as £5, so a lot of cyclists, (most of the bad ones) are fairly young, inexperienced in life and danger, and a bit dopey half the time.
It's not ideal but cut them some slack we were all young once, give them some room and maybe a few beeps to let them know you are there as they'll probably have earphones in and be miles away in their own little world.
As there are no tests to take or number plates to report bad cycling expect the worst and for them to jump red lights and ignore the 20 mph speed limits, they are just another one of life's annoyances!
No, they are not really safe on the roads, I drive, cycle, and walk, and cycling is the most dangerous, I try and avoid roads and use the cycle paths and taff trail etc. Like all modes some are good, some are terrible, and most are somewhere in between.
Bicycle registrations!!! Now there's an idea.
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dembethewarrior
Bicycle registrations!!! Now there's an idea.
The police do f all about illegal scooters and converted electric bikes, so I can't see them doing anything about potentially unregistered bikes.
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BLUETIT
Me thinks you better check that statement ?
I don't think so. Road tax hasn't existed since 1936-ish.
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Cyclists on road when there’s a perfectly good cyclist path surprised this has not been mentioned yet
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It’s chuffing wonderful in UK compared to Poland.
Brand new unused cycle lanes everywhere, double width pavements with their own signage which hardly anyone uses.
On the roads, hundreds of Polish pensioners, dressed in black, doing 1 mph on a 1930s cycle with no lights, no helmet or hi viz. Same with hundreds of kids going to school in the morning and the worst are the hundreds on nuns (honestly)
I’m shocked that no one has been killed in my local town since I’ve been here.
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I cycle around 80 miles a week. Most serious cyclists tend to adhere to the Highway Code, the issue is bad drivers who just don’t “ think bike “ and whenever I’ve encountered incidents, about half of the time they are using their phones and not paying attention to other road users.
A dedicated cycle network is probably the way forward though as it’s getting worse.
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TWGL1
I cycle around 80 miles a week. Most serious cyclists tend to adhere to the Highway Code, the issue is bad drivers who just don’t “ think bike “ and whenever I’ve encountered incidents, about half of the time they are using their phones and not paying attention to other road users.
A DEDICATED CYCLE NETWORK is probably the way forward though as it’s getting worse.
I think they have got these in Cardiff now, there’s just not enough cyclists using them !
We’ve been over and over this, it’s a total waste of taxpayers money as they will never be busily used, like they are in other countries.
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TWGL1
I cycle around 80 miles a week. Most serious cyclists tend to adhere to the Highway Code, the issue is bad drivers who just don’t “ think bike “ and whenever I’ve encountered incidents, about half of the time they are using their phones and not paying attention to other road users.
A dedicated cycle network is probably the way forward though as it’s getting worse.
:thumbup: agree with all of that.
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North Cardiff Blue
phew :thumbup:
If you moved here could she use the license here?
i think you have to take a test here