https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64115141
Netanyahu's hard-line new government takes office
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64115141
Netanyahu's hard-line new government takes office
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/i...jewish-fascism
Alon Pinkas, writing in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, calls the coalition government, scheduled to take power in one or two weeks, “a kakistocracy extraordinaire: government by the worst and least suitable collection of ultranationalists, Jewish supremacists, anti-democrats, racists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists, corrupt and allegedly corrupt politicians. A ruling coalition of 64 lawmakers, of whom 32 are either ultra-Orthodox or religious Zionist. Certainly not a coalition Zeev Jabotinsky, the father of Revisionist Zionism, or Menachem Begin, the founder of Likud, could have ever imagined.”
Itamar Ben-Gvir, from the ultra-nationalist Otzma Yehudit, “Jewish Power,” party, will be the new minister for internal security. Otzma Yehudit is populated with members of Rabbi Meir Kahane’s Kach party, which was banned from running for the Knesset in 1988 for espousing a “Nazi-like ideology” that included advocating the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian citizens of Israel as well as all Palestinians living under Israeli military occupation.
His appointment, along with that of other far-right ideologues, including Bezalel Smotrich, to be in charge of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), effectively jettisons the old tropes liberal Zionists used to defend Israel – that it is the only democracy in the Middle East, that it seeks a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians in a two-state solution, that extremism and racism have no place in Israeli society and that Israel must impose draconian forms of control on the Palestinians to prevent terrorism.
Ben-Gvir and Smotrich represent the dregs of Israeli society, one that promotes “Jewish identity” and “Jewish nationalism” in a Zionist version of fascism’s call for blood and soil. They are Israel’s equivalent of Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Their Religious Zionist bloc is now the third largest in the Knesset.
Those right wing Israelis are utter crackpots
Why do you always departmentalise right and left wing ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It’s nothing to do with right and left wing FFS
I see nothing being reported media wise about Israel’s illegal military interventions….
Are you saying that this is a Government of the left?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Some of its policies are , but left or right, it’s still the same bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Either way it’s a regime supported by the UK /U.S governments , which is hypocritical
The new government is extremely worrying. Some out and out scumbags getting some important ministries. I sincerely hope this current vile coalition disintegrates very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Although, surely that article would put the minds of its readers at ease. Because according to the author Israel has always been that bad, they're just being more honest about it now.
Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Their Covid policies were very authoritarian but you would no doubt agree with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It's fortunate -for the world as a whole - that the fate of the Palestinians is generally ignored by the rest of the Arab world. They know that to meddle openly would certainly bring the U.S. into a direct conflict, so for the time being they can continue to be persecuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Without wanting to open up a huge can of worms. Maybe it's because the vast majority of countries in the Arab world know that they have minorities or whole populations that are being subjugated and discriminated against to a far greater extent than the Palestinians. The levels of anti semitism endemic in that part of the world also make it quite hard for many to put forward a coherent arguement for why they dislike Israel, that doesn't just involve their hatred of Jews in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Still, despite in most ways being a big supporter of Israel I don't want to go down that route here because the current Israeli government is awful and fully deserving of any criticism directed towards it. Disappointed in the Biden administration aswell, I thought they'd try and crack down on the Israelis over settlement building. They don't seem to have exerted any pressure whatsoever.
:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Get out of here for Christ's sake with your conspiracy covid nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Israel are going to be governed by right wing zionist crackpots
It's madnessQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Liberal Jews are wonderful company
This lot are insane
It's everything to do with left and rightQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If you can't accept that it seems pointless starting the thread
It's war for territory
The left on Israel are wonderful , modern thinkers
The right are Potty
Sadly softly softly doesn't work as most countries the area want them annihilated otmy words those of the leaders orthe likes of Iran .
So when someone continues to threaten you decade after decade you simply have to deliver zero tolerance..
Look no further then Ukraine who gave up thier nukes for peace .. and then a country takes Crimea , and no feck as a consequence they back for more.. that's what will happen If Israel weakens its stance.
Far right fascists in government in one of the most volatile regions in the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Jesus Christ
When it comes to trying to control a worldwide pandemic which we initially knew very little about.....being authoritarian gets my voteQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Biden is hopelessQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
I'd agree , he appears to be trying the 'be as boring as possible and do as little as possible ' method. I understand in a way a desire to try and take a bit of the sting out of politics there. Do think he needs to do a bit more though, needs to actively try and detoxify things rather than just sitting back and hoping it all simmers down of its own accord.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
To take it back to Israel. This hands off approach is also going to be hugely damaging to Israel in the long term aswell. There needs to be pressure on them now to rein in the lunatics. I've long stuck up for Israel as a vibrant democracy who should probably control their right wing loons a bit more. I don't think that's an argument that can be made in good faith now. There are now people in control who are out and out supremacists, who believe that palestinians are 2nd class citizens with no place in the country. It's a sad state of affairs, I sincerely hope this is rock bottom and that the next government will be more moderate and will be in charge soon. I don't have a huge amount of faith in that happening though.
My mate at college went over there for a year before he started studyingQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
The saddest thing is that within Israel there are so many liberal , open minded people of Jewish, Arab and other nationalities
He worked in tel aviv and said back then it was a wonderful place to live and political extremists were shunned
I have no idea what it's like now
Give it a rest , you are the one who called for people with different opinions to you to be forced to do unpaid forced Labour.( I’ll put the thread back up if you like.) I cannot take you seriously with views like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
WTF is a conspiracy questioning Israel’s totalitarian Covid policies ,if you think they were fine great, but I don’t.
Tel Aviv is still the same, one of my favourite places. Done a bit of diving down in Eilat aswell, very chilled place. Finally made it on a day trip to Jerusalem last year, very intense place. Although my poor directional sense didn't help in that regard, walked through some dodgy seeming neighbourhoods. The settlements and some of the stuff that goes on in the west bank is absolutely awful, a real stain on the countryQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You are crazy 🤪Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Covid lunatic
It's sad , there is never going to be an end to it allQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
It may settle , get worse or lessen
But it's never going to end
I remember seeing a documentary on a British born photographer of Jewish descent who was murdered by the Israeli tanks several years ago
It was murder but of course it wasn't in the record books as such
Terrible
Yes, the I want to be free to do what I like and bugger the consequences for anyone else brigade tend to be on the right, as were the lot who approached the whole thing from a business rather than a human perspective during lock down, but, actually, the pandemic was an area where left and right politics was not too significant as policies tended to be broadly similar whatever type of Government was in office. In fact, it was the Swedish left of centre Government that was probably the most non interventionist in Europe, so I'm not sure what point he's trying to make, but his views on Covid are more in line with those on the right politically whether he likes it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
As I say people like you are dangerous, especially when you were quite happy to think it was acceptable to force non vaccinated to undertake forced Labour against their will …. have a look through history where that has a happened previously. You’re inflammatory viewpoint is dangerous as well , you my friend cannot be taken seriously. Now if you want to carry on calling people “crazy” then have a think before you type ,similar to your other “scum” posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I wonder how you fit in on a normal day , sat in your PJ’s probably…. :hehe:
Indeed it's so obvious I can't be bothered to argueQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
You are a lunaticQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If you ever got covid you would be banging on the doors on your local hospital crying like a baby for medical care
You and your lot are completely nuts and should be shot
Huh, I pay my taxes , had had Covid numerous times, was a mere cold, so has everyone I know , but perhaps we eat well excercise and practice good health.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You are an odd one , have another go you social comedian and are dangerous.
No point abusing people on line is there , you’re ruining the board. How many threads have you started that have been deleted now :hehe:
It’s because of articles like this ( and many other negative issues ) that I didn’t agree with lockdowns ,and it was wrong to do it , but according to some is a crazy viewpointQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6...6c12e0858719fa
At the start of the pandemic, excess deaths for normal conditions fell significantly as Covid killed thousands. However, as the pandemic has waned, this pattern has reversed. Since the spring, deaths have been significantly above normal levels, largely driven by conditions other than Covid.
All a conspiracy
Happy new year you fruitcake bat shit crazy BluebirdQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Happy New YearQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY