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Cardiff City V Spurs 1977
was in the canton for this one as a nipper
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BBC Match Of the Day<br>January 1977<br>FA Cup 3rd Round<br>Cardiff City 1-0 Tottenham <br>Commentator Alan Weeks<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA sOne</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardiff?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardiff </a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/THFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#THFC</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ai3aSjXtjL">pic.twitter.com/Ai3aSjXtjL</a></p>— TV Football 1968-92 (@1968Tv) <a href="https://twitter.com/1968Tv/status/1611105617271308288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Got Peter Sayer a very nice transfer too.
Paul Went was the star for me that day. I think he only stayed with us a couple of years, was a good centre half, but also decent centre forward when he played there for us once or twice.
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Popular Bank me.
Sayer also copped a rather nice TR7 with his name on it.
That goal was on the MOTD intro for what seemed like years.
Tottenham fans weren't happy post match.
Shat myself walking out, proper scary.
Yes I remember Went playing CF and I also remember being rather on the heavy side.
Gilo at twenty, the Welsh Kevin Keegan LOL.
My favourite City kit.
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What a goal, goal, goal! Massive battle on sloper road afterwards. I was there. Only 11 years old old.
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NYCBlue
What a goal, goal, goal! Massive battle on sloper road afterwards. I was there. Only 11 years old old.
Yeah, all sorts of bricks and bottles were hurled on Sloper Road after the game. I was 16 at the time and went to White Hart Lane a couple of seasons later in the league.
The league encounter was also a bit scary. I made my own way to the game from Kent, as I was doing my merchant navy training there.
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I started watching the City the season after that but most of those players were still playing. Looking at that clip though.... I miss Ninian Park and standing on the Bob Bank so much. Great times. Happy, exciting, joyous, sad, annoying or frustrating, they were great times.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Yeah, all sorts of bricks and bottles were hurled on Sloper Road after the game. I was 16 at the time and went to White Hart Lane a couple of seasons later in the league.
The league encounter was also a bit scary. I made my own way to the game from Kent, as I was doing my merchant navy training there.
Always remember a report in the echo as those arrested were brought to justice. One Spurs fans' defence of why he was apprehended in the car park after the game carrying half a house brick was that it was thrown by a Cardiff fan and he caught it and was looking for a bin to dispose of it when the copper grabbed him.
Obviously the football hooligan hanging judge, Sir Lincoln Hallinan, was having nothing of it and slapped him with an £80 fine.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Yeah, all sorts of bricks and bottles were hurled on Sloper Road after the game. I was 16 at the time and went to White Hart Lane a couple of seasons later in the league.
The league encounter was also a bit scary. I made my own way to the game from Kent, as I was doing my merchant navy training there.
My mum and dad, who were in their sixties at the time got caught up in all that. They were very upset..
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I was in with the Spurs fans ( I went to school until 12 in Tottenham & Wood Green ) and was meeting up with some old mates.
They were not impressed on so many fronts about the welcome that day and especially the result.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Yeah, all sorts of bricks and bottles were hurled on Sloper Road after the game. I was 16 at the time and went to White Hart Lane a couple of seasons later in the league.
The league encounter was also a bit scary. I made my own way to the game from Kent, as I was doing my merchant navy training there.
I watched the Cup game in the Grange End. Spurs were relegated at the end of that season. Went to the Spurs away game the following season as an impressionable 14 year-old. Shat myself!! First time I'd seen a knife pulled :yikes:
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Blue Dwr
I watched the Cup game in the Grange End. Spurs were relegated at the end of that season. Went to the Spurs away game the following season as an impressionable 14 year-old. Shat myself!! First time I'd seen a knife pulled :yikes:
A rather odd thing occurred at the end of the White Hart Lane game - when the police held the City fans back, it soon became noticeable that there was a group of about 5-6 blokes (certainly not youngsters!) who nobody recognised, a few were with their girlfriends too.
It turned out they were Millwall and had come to support the City (so they said :hehe:), I think they probably came along out of curiosity to what could have been a flashpoint fixture.
Anyway, they persuaded the police to let them out after about 15 minutes. Well, it turns out that Spurs fans were still waiting outside the ground and you could hear the commotion when the gate was opened to let that small pocket of Millwall out.
I think it was the longest I had ever been held behind in the ground in all my away days. :hehe:
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
A rather odd thing occurred at the end of the White Hart Lane game - when the police held the City fans back, it soon became noticeable that there was a group of about 5-6 blokes (certainly not youngsters!) who nobody recognised, a few were with their girlfriends too.
It turned out they were Millwall and had come to support the City (so they said :hehe:), I think they probably came along out of curiosity to what could have been a flashpoint fixture.
Anyway, they persuaded the police to let them out after about 15 minutes. Well, it turns out that Spurs fans were still waiting outside the ground and you could hear the commotion when the gate was opened to let that small pocket of Millwall out.
I think it was the longest I had ever been held behind in the ground in all my away days. :hehe:
I know it’s nothing to do with the City or Spurs but talking about being held in the ground after the game, did anyone go to Serbia a few seasons back? Now that was some wait.
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splott parker
I know it’s nothing to do with the City or Spurs but talking about being held in the ground after the game, did anyone go to Serbia a few seasons back? Now that was some wait.
Yeah, we went out almost the same time as the floodlights did. I recall the play-off in Moscow was worse. The ground was methodically emptied block by block, starting with the one to our immediate right and ending about an hour later on our left before we were shepherded to our busses. At least it was warm in Belgrade rather than sub-zero when we left the stadium in Moscow.
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I was 16, One of those games that should be remembered for a great victory against a 1st division side with a brilliant Sayer goal but this was essentially my 1st introduction to serious footy aggro, I had seen the occasional skirmishes prior to this, but this was serious heavy duty violence from the moment of being in the bus station when the Spurs fans arrived, they came out of the entrance and slipped the escort into the station, the Cardiff groups heavily outnumbered legged it in all directions I was on the grange end for this game with Spurs in the enclosure, after the game Spurs were in Sloper road calling it on and the gates of the grange end were I believe shut, the rumours were, and I have no Idea if true but suspect it was just rumour that the Spurs were chucking acid about. I did go to the away game the following year as the spurs were relegated, Glammy were in the final at Lords the same day (maybe my memory isn’t that good) approaching the vicinity of the ground our coach had every single window put through, myself and the two chaps I used to go with back then, ended up in a hospital ( I think it was the North Middlesex, again memory might fail me with the name) walking to the ground we bought Spurs scarfs just to appear local Spurs fans, the replacement coach on leaving only had the back window put through whilst leaving the area, the guys on the coach did get out and call it on with those mingling about, we stopped in Hungerford on the way home and the pub had a few spurs fans in who had also been to the game, inevitably it went off in the pub as well, a very scary day but still rate the away West Ham game not long after this as the most frightened I had been at a football ground, I never went to Millwall during this era!!.
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Heathblue
I was 16, One of those games that should be remembered for a great victory against a 1st division side with a brilliant Sayer goal but this was essentially my 1st introduction to serious footy aggro, I had seen the occasional skirmishes prior to this, but this was serious heavy duty violence from the moment of being in the bus station when the Spurs fans arrived, they came out of the entrance and slipped the escort into the station, the Cardiff groups heavily outnumbered legged it in all directions I was on the grange end for this game with Spurs in the enclosure, after the game Spurs were in Sloper road calling it on and the gates of the grange end were I believe shut, the rumours were, and I have no Idea if true but suspect it was just rumour that the Spurs were chucking acid about. I did go to the away game the following year as the spurs were relegated, Glammy were in the final at Lords the same day (maybe my memory isn’t that good) approaching the vicinity of the ground our coach had every single window put through, myself and the two chaps I used to go with back then, ended up in a hospital ( I think it was the North Middlesex, again memory might fail me with the name) walking to the ground we bought Spurs scarfs just to appear local Spurs fans, the replacement coach on leaving only had the back window put through whilst leaving the area, the guys on the coach did get out and call it on with those mingling about, we stopped in Hungerford on the way home and the pub had a few spurs fans in who had also been to the game, inevitably it went off in the pub as well, a very scary day but still rate the away West Ham game not long after this as the most frightened I had been at a football ground, I never went to Millwall during this era!!.
We did play Spurs on the Lord’s final day but it was at home, lost 0-1.
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Dave Blue
We did play Spurs on the Lord’s final day but it was at home, lost 0-1.
To be 50% right isn't bad for me :hehe: :thumbup:
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Dave Blue
We did play Spurs on the Lord’s final day but it was at home, lost 0-1.
We drew 0-0 (there was only 8,000 there due to a combination of ground restrictions and people going to Lords to watch Glamorgan) and lost the return game 2-1.
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I remember being on Paddington Station after the cricket waiting for our train back home when the Spurs special arrived back from Cardiff. A station full of us Welsh and Spurs fans wasn’t a great place to be. My old man loved his cricket but no had real interest in football but despite the fact he’d spent most of the day in The Tavern Bar at Lords he was more than willing to listen to me me when I said we didn’t want to be standing around as the Spurs fans alighted their train. (I’ve never been keen on the word alighted, reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever used it!).
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Whatever happened to obstruction? It's mentioned twice in that 16 minute clip. And now you can watch literally days of live football and never hear it.
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NYCBlue
Whatever happened to obstruction? It's mentioned twice in that 16 minute clip. And now you can watch literally days of live football and never hear it.
As with "deliberate handball" and "fair challenge"
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Spurs came a calling twice during 1977 to leave with no wins at Ninian Park and their fans suffered two defeats in its environs, particularly along Ninian Park Road. Early in 1978 they gained revenge by easily having the better of it at White Hart Lane.
But honour was restored just a few months later during what was then an annual visit to Millwall. Some weeks before they had been hammered at home by Ipswich in the FA Cup. Such was the level of disorder it made national headlines. CCFC urged fans not to travel there. That message only succeeded to elicit the creme de la creme of local nutters to make hurried transport arrangements. Few if any of those had an interest in football but were always eager to aim their Doc Martens at Londoners and Bristolians.
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The late 1970s was the beginning of the golden age of football thuggery. They were wonderful times when endless opportunities presented themselves to stick the welly into opposition supporters and the occasional copper.
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Organ Morgan.
The late 1970s was the beginning of the golden age of football thuggery. They were wonderful times when endless opportunities presented themselves to stick the welly into opposition supporters and the occasional copper.
Late 70s... you’re at least 10 years late on that.
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John Buchanan
As with "deliberate handball" and "fair challenge"
"Ball to hand"
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Sayer was a smoker at school.
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Organ Morgan.
Spurs came a calling twice during 1977 to leave with no wins at Ninian Park and their fans suffered two defeats in its environs, particularly along Ninian Park Road. Early in 1978 they gained revenge by easily having the better of it at White Hart Lane.
But honour was restored just a few months later during what was then an annual visit to Millwall. Some weeks before they had been hammered at home by Ipswich in the FA Cup. Such was the level of disorder it made national headlines. CCFC urged fans not to travel there. That message only succeeded to elicit the creme de la creme of local nutters to make hurried transport arrangements. Few if any of those had an interest in football but were always eager to aim their Doc Martens at Londoners and Bristolians.
Something similar happened regarding the City going to Chelsea, around 1978, I think?
The Saturday before we were due to visit Stamford Bridge, Chelsea had run amock at Eastville Stadium against Bristol Rovers. A WPC had been punched in the face, knocked unconscious, and had a black eye, it was all over the HTV West news (my grandmother always had her TV ariel facing the West country for some reason :hehe:)
Anyway, I had already booked my ticket on the supporters' coach (Morris Travel) to travel to Stamford Bridge, I couldn't back out. :hehe:
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splott parker
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Late 70s... you’re at least 10 years late on that.
Definitely.
Man U were on Match of the Day circa 72 or 73 and the fan invasion with running battles (shown on TV until the authorities decided not to glorify hooliganism by showing it).
I remember Jimmy Hill being staggered by the sight of Oxford bags and Brutus butterfly collared clad MU hoolies kicking the crap out of the opposing fans with their 12 hole DM's/Major Domos.
Happy days :hehe:
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MacAdder
"Ball to hand"
The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?
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splott parker
The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?
Almost any other part of the pitch it's deemed a free-kick, but allowed to happen with a defender "shepherding the ball"
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MacAdder
Definitely.
Man U were on Match of the Day circa 72 or 73 and the fan invasion with running battles (shown on TV until the authorities decided not to glorify hooliganism by showing it).
I remember Jimmy Hill being staggered by the sight of Oxford bags and Brutus butterfly collared clad MU hoolies kicking the crap out of the opposing fans with their 12 hole DM's/Major Domos.
Happy days :hehe:
The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.
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splott parker
The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.
That must have been scary, you little tiger! :hehe:
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
That must have been scary, you little tiger! :hehe:
The 5-1 game was one of the best away trips of my life, 1968. One down, then ripped them apart, Tank didn’t turn up:hehe:
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splott parker
The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?
You were watching Big Match Revisited episodes a while back weren’t you. One of them had a Man City v Chelsea game played in the snow on it and I can remember a defender trying that. The ref penalised him and then showed him a yellow card - some things really were better in the old days.
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splott parker
The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.
The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.
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the other bob wilson
The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.
We did stay on there, Fulham fans saying ‘Wait until Tank turns up, you’ll soon move’........still waiting , I bet Tank saw how many City fans were on the end and settled down by you and your uncle to observe the football lesson Tosh and co gave to the Cottagers:hehe:
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the other bob wilson
The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.
Did you happen to notice a young Splott Parker at the vanguard of the City mob? :hehe:
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[2QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5379661]The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.[/QUOTE]
What tune was 'We have taken over ' being sung to?
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kendoddsdadsdogsdead
[2QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5379661]The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.
What tune was 'We have taken over ' being sung to?[/QUOTE]
‘We Shall Overcome’
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Did you happen to notice a young Splott Parker at the vanguard of the City mob? :hehe:
I was with Bluetit back at base camp guarding the barracks:hide: