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He's a libertarian feck wit
Been spreading dangerous misinformation on Covid vaccines for some time now along with that Piers Corbyn loop...
The way politicians easily compare stuff with the holocaust speaks volumes about society its accross the political landscape .
A total arsehole our Andrew. The only good thing he ever did was vote to eject Johnson second time round (after strongly endorsing him the first)Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
There's a lot of stuff coming out about the 'vaccines' lately. More and more scientists are putting their heads above the parapet now that it's getting safer to do so. Suffice to say, the theme of various reports and studies is ' the vaccines aren't actually making much difference...'Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Got any examples or is it another of your 1969 voting survey anecdotes?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Is that all you do , belittle people who have differences of opinions to you , regardless of the subject matter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
You are WUM.
I am sure he is big enough to support his statement but I am sure he will be glad of your backing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Aye, one is Dr Aseem Malhotra, who's a contender for the crown of Britain's top cardiologist, is like a man possessed these days in his furious opposition to Covid vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
The message where he described Pfizer as 'immoral psychopaths' I posted in another thread a few days ago: Here's his twitter account. https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
I’m sure he is , but you need to be told , and yet , you will no doubt carry on until you start feeling the heat , then of course you will make a big announcement that you are leaving ( playing the victim) only to pop up again less than a month or two later.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
ALL opINi0ns wELcOme
Don't be too hard on Cyril. He's as old as the hills.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
It can't be much fun for him having to be transported in a wheelchair for relatively short distances, or having to rely on a rusty ear trumpet 'cos good hearing aids are costly, but it gets worse as having Lardy as a full time carer is a hindrance I wouldn't wish on anyone.
Tbf Morg he said more and more doctors and scientists are putting their head above the parapet not the usual suspects like Malhotra, Cahill and Campbell. While we have your attention, what happened to that Mexican gynaecologist who discovered all those giant black eyed babies, any update?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Thanks for the telling, coming from such an esteemed user id it means a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Online status … who cares :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Malhotra is a relatively new addition to the ranks of clot shot sceptics. That fella has spent most of his working life gazing at human hearts. He's very difficult for you to discredit because he has the qualifications and tons of credibility. He also says he rolled his own sleeve up twice and advocated others did likewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
There's legions of like him out there, those 'shepherd's' were silenced when the PsyOp was in full swing. Notable amongst them was Dr Robert Malone and the late Luc Montagnier, a former Nobel prize winner who you also tried and failed to rubbish.
I think it's a question of where you look to get a genuine un-biased overview of a particular topic. how wide - or in the case of CCMB, narrow - is your spectrum ? Two years ago it was impossible to offer any opinion on COVID that differed from the BBC/Government's utterings without being shouted down and ridiculed. If you choose to just accept everything you're told, fine. That's life in 2023. Soak it all up without question.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Do you think now that what you and others were saying on here three years ago as COVID made its way into Europe and the USA has been proved to be correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
So those genuine un-biased studies you were talking about that were going to expand my narrowness of thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
The excess deaths is certainly a concern , and it’s worth noting that’s what they are actually admitting to.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Tons of credibility, this Malhotra guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
The British Heart Foundation said his views on saturated fats being fine for arteries were "misleading and wrong", he came up with a diet that was voted in the top 5 worst celebrity diets of 2018 by the British Dietetic Association, and tried to sell a book describing a three week diet that would help covid sufferers recover with absolutely no medical evidence to support it.
The New York Times ran a story on him in which he revealed he puts a tablespoon of butter in his coffee.
I'm willing to bet that, although Morgan thinks he has tons of credibility, he doesn't actually follow anything this guy recommends.
Bobsy, there has only ever been an imaginary Covid virus and imaginary variants of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
That's why nobody anywhere worldwide has been able to isolate it despite it supposedly being everywhere for the past three years. It remains invisible because it doesn't and has never existed.
At the same time Dr Hilary gets a prime time morning slot :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Some source documents from scientists who have isolated the virus:Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00543-20
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0247524
https://theconversation.com/i-study-...andemic-133675
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MT560525.1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MT019532
Visual learners can look at the piccies:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/niaid/...h/49557785797/
I need to be elsewhere. But tomorrow I'll find a link with replies to Freedom of Information requests to the huge majority of the world's governments asking whether they had isolated CV19. Every response was a no.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I have another link to a request made to the US FDA or CDC. In that one the official responds with they had not isolated CV19 and had never isolated any virus ever. Which adds weight to those who contend germ theory is contrived bull.
Dear Mat Hancock,Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Did you isolate the covid virus?
Regards, Orgun Morgun
When you're back, can you also answer this one for me...what do you think germ theory means?
Yes I agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
All this bickering when the mean average in respect of someone unfortunately passing away “with” Covid is around 81 years of age.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
No data available for Africa though but this area appears almost unaffected.
All a storm in a tea cup as you endlessly loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Remind us, was this because of the preventative measures taken, lockdowns, social distancing, masks, vaccines or despite them?
I’m sure they would have made some difference, however I’m led to believe the age grouping hasn’t changed that much and it’s clear the virus was in circulation about 6 months before any measures were taken. it generally affects people over 60 with underlying health issues such as obesity, diabetes etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Following the posts this morning comparing me you is like comparing apples and oranges so I understand why you don’t agree. Have a great afternoon
Well not for the first time you would be wrong. Again the ONS, (obviously only working with the data given not hidden),Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nsights/deaths
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The average (mean) age of death for COVID-19 has been lower than that of flu and pneumonia throughout the pandemic. In summer 2021, the mean age of death fell to 73 years, but has been rising again since the majority of the population have been fully vaccinated to 83 years in March 2022.
While most deaths due to COVID-19 have occurred among those aged over 80 years, the increased risk of death compared with flu and pneumonia has been greatest for those aged 40 to 79 years. In January 2021, when COVID-19 deaths were at their peak, the number of deaths due to COVID-19 was nearly 32 times higher than the number due to flu and pneumonia for this age group. Among those aged over 80 years, deaths due to COVID-19 were 16 times higher than those due to flu and pneumonia.
When are you going to understand that the data needs to be taken into context.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
How many died in care homes during 2021 , and being in a care home can be any age ?
How many were admitted to hospital with an unrelated illness tested negative and were tested positive in hospital and died within 28 days of a positive test.
We know that Testing wasn’t brilliant during this time and doctors were able to assume “with Covid” without a test ( which we know picks up RNA up 3 months post infection)
So again without transparency, the data is not absolute, I wonder how many people have died ONLY of Covid , that doesn’t seem to be anywhere apart from bits and pieces on you tube and even data published on ONS suggests numbers significantly lower than when Covid was mentioned in conjunction with other illness.
I also am aware that they increased the CT for testing after 2021.
Hope that helps
It is difficult to understand what argument you are pursuing, presumably one that helps you rationalise why the ONS data and analysis doesn't align with your opinion.
So for example, using other ONS data which shows that of the people who died in care homes 2% were aged 0-64 and of the people who had covid on their death certificate 3% were diagnosed on the basis of symptoms not a PCR test what does it do to the ONS analysis I posted?
As for the deaths by Covid alone nonsense, we are truly back at the start of Ground Hog day. The TWGL1 user id probably missed that it was one of the go-to plays of the Covid-deniers somewhere between its only a cold and it is easily cured by Hydroxochloroquine.
I don’t have time to study ONS data like you and as another poster mentioned today , you have a very narrow thinking process when it comes to things which you don’t agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Furthermore it looks like you have ignored the other parts of my post as it probably makes uncomfortable reading for you.
When more things get dripped into the public domain, rest assured we can amicably discuss it then. I was hoping for a public enquiry but I don’t think that’s happening.
Have a restful evening and take care.
Here's one of the links I mentioned yesterday: FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (211 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever - https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois...-purification/Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
It's jam-packed with info, including official responses to FoI requests.
We did that months back.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Virology and vaccines are absolute scams. Sickness, such as flu, is the body's natural immune system detoxing from something. We all are inundated with chemicals, parasites, toxins, etc, daily.
Below is the suspended MP Andrew Bridgen's recent speech in the Commons during a Covid vaccines injuries debate. It's powerful stuff, which was highlighted by Dr John Campbell's youtube channel. He, like Dr Aseem Malhotra, was a huge vaccine advocate and promoter of taking them. But he too is now unable to ignore the data.
Also of interest is how many MPs can be seen in the chamber, a handful of Tories and the solitary figure on the Opposition benches is an Ulster MP. All the Labour, Plaid, SNP and Lib Dems MPs must have had more pressing matters to attend to than their constituents health.
https://youtu.be/-MSKzoI72eU
Here's Malhotra's response to the above speech.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@elonmusk</a> needs to see this. Truly extraordinary speech and allegations of cover up of mRNA jab harms by British Heart Foundation leader in UK Parliament <a href="https://t.co/uFz1JNtrOy">https://t.co/uFz1JNtrOy</a> <a href="https://t.co/vnON42Yjjk">https://t.co/vnON42Yjjk</a></p>— Dr Aseem Malhotra (@DrAseemMalhotra) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1602780783525216265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
We did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Then, as now, you showed that you didn't know the difference between scientific law and scientific theory.
It's easy to fix, you can just Google it. Then you won't bring up the same silliness every few months.
Listen, I've made mention before at this forum that I haven't set foot inside a doctor's surgery this century.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Perhaps I should have in May 2020 when I was sick as a dog for a fortnight. (That incident prompted my absence for a long while at this forum and the rest of the internet as I got out of the habit.) About three months ago I was sorely tempted to again when I had such pain in the right hip it became agonising to stand up from a prone position.
On the off chance you might be interested in what was awry, I'm as certain as I can be the 2020 drama was Anaphylactic Shock brought on, believe it or not, from eating one small Snickers bar from a box of Celebrations. The other was likely general wear and tear which was solved by pure good fortune in one day at a cost of 10 pence to purchase three 200MG capsules of Ibuproven. The lucky part was talking to a bloke whose chronic back pain returned without his daily dosage of that.
I never eat crap like that chocolate bar and only did so that day to be sociable. It won't surprise you to learn I give vaccine needles a bigger swerve as I've spent a huge amount of time researching the subject. I must acknowledge, though, that before the internet came along I was almost as trusting and gullible as you are determined to remain.
I don't agree with him but I am open minded enough to listen, and science by it's very definition is designed to be challenged. Indeed, blind acceptance of science is itself very unscientific. Who knows whether there is much truth in what he is saying but I think its fair to say it.
Comparing anything to the Holocaust, even vis a third person, is stupid and politically naive though.