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Wearing a nice city kit . Now .
I thought she was a gonna for a moment.
What's she doing with a ccfc top on ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tricks
She's a plastic manc
And a raving far right winger.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Is she a tory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Well she can naff off then
To be fair to her, apparently her Dad is from Salford and she’s an advocate of anti-semitism.
https://www.influencewatch.org/person/rachel-riley/
What do you mean by advocate?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
She's a massive football fan and rightly called out Corbyn for allowing anti semitism to flourish within his party at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
That anyone would consider such behaviour 'far right' is both in extremely ironic and demonstrates how far the deep behind that man and his teachings goes.
She called Corbyn antisemitic which he his isn't .Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
She wore that t-shirt with his image on to smear him.
She was definitely part of a right wing smear campaign.
Big tits and good at the maths round on countdown gave her a platform.
Be careful what I say in case she sues me, but not as nice as she pretends to be. That smear did Corbyn a lot of harm. I tend to agree there was a right wing campaign against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
I enjoyed her campaign highlighting Boris Johnson's Islamophobia, homophobia and misogyny.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Massive football fan as in a man United fan from EssexQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
We have loads of massive football fans in Wales too
KnockoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Hes not coming back from that
85% of British Jews considered him antisemitic
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/m...=1672531200011
I think I will believe them thanks
Just admit Labour had an issue under Corbyn. It's not a hard thing to do. Will probably be cathartic for some of you to admit it.
40% of the British public thought he was antisemitic.
Me personally, I don't. But I think he allowed it to flourish for political reasons
😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
I'm closer to the Labour Party than you are. Not that it makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Corbyn was not and never has been antisemitic. However by not admitting clearly that parts of the Labour party are, gave the opportunity for the anti Corbynites out (both inside and outside the Labour party).there to bring him down.
As someone mentioned up thread mentioned Boris Johnson and the Tory Party have a free ride with their Islamophobia which, in my opinion is far worse than the antisemitism in the Labour Party.I wonder why?
Absolutely right. She was also fully in with the (mainly successful) movement to label anti Zionism and criticism of Israeli actions as antisemitic. And quite happy to denounce thousands of anti racist Jews as antisemites. She got a lot of celebrity support in the early days of the Corbyn smears, but went totally OTT. I remember Stephen Fry distancing himself from her (after being a cheerleader) when she called Noam Chomsky antisemitic.Quote:
Originally Posted by insider
Still James is convinced so she must be right!
I know it's heretical to accuse Corbyn of anything on here but you have to ask yourselves why did the majority of Labour MPs oppose him and why was Corbyn suspended by his own Party if he is the whiter than white character portrayed on here. Clearly the article below hasn't concluded that Corbyn was blameless.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...jeremy-corbyn/
I recall when the Labour Part produced a report on anti semitism (sorry can't spell her name but got her an honour as a result) Juliet Berger was subjected to such racial abuse by those present she had to leave the meeting.
Corbyn is anti Zionist and NOT anti Jewish (I hate the term anti Semitic and will not use it unless we mean anti Arabic, anti Berber and a few other ethnicities too).Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Unfortunately the difference of being Anti Zionist to Anti Jewish escapes most people.
Classic sheep in wolf's clothing thread
So many old goldfish bowl beefs on here
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Originally Posted by insider
The report was by Shami Chaktabarti and she didn’t get ‘rewarded’ for it. She was already a highly respected lawyer and former head of Liberty who had been doing that kind of investigation and reports for decades. It was a fair and balanced report that was in line with the findings of the all party Home Affairs Select Committee on antisemitism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
I think you mean Luciana Berger not Juliet. She was abused on social media - mostly by the far right - but she was happy to imply falsely that socialists in her local party were responsible.
It was Ruth Smeeth, not Berger, who dramatically stormed out of the event that presented the Chakrabarti report. She was not subjected to any racist abuse at that event - she was accused of passing briefing notes to the Tory press (Telegraph I think) by Marc Wadsworth - a black activist who was at the back of the meeting. Smeeth later labelled that allegation as antisemitic abuse. It looked like a pre planed stunt to me. But make your own mind up - the whole event was on the news and You Tube straight away. There was no abuse.
Marc Wadsworth was subsequently expelled from Labour for bringing it into disrepute - not for any imagined antisemitism. It was all part of the smear campaign from the Labour machine, PLP and most of the media/press - backed by the likes of Rachel Riley and the Israeli Embassy.
That said there are and we’re some antisemites in Labour - less so than in most other parties and the general population - but still as Corbyn said often ‘one is too many’.
They opposed him because they never wanted him as leader in the first place, he was too left wing for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
Yes imagine now if energy companies, railways and been nationalised, NHS had been properly funded.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
Just think what a terrible state we'd be in, like Stalinist USSRQuote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Of course Labour cannot be at fault for much if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
And there was supposedly no money left but of course there is even less now. The thing I find surprising, although I shouldn't, is the fact the debate becomes so one sided. Earlier this week it was stated on several occasions that South Wales is poor which is true. But surely as Labour has consistently been the governing Party no blame whatsoever is attributed to them. Labour has taken Welsh voters for granted in the knowledge there is no opposition and the Tories have little incentive to do much for Wales because they know, even if vast improvements were made, they would get no credit. People don't have to vote Labour nor Tory as there are other political Parties out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
Of course they can, and are. I am no longer a member and was never an uncritical supporter of Corbyn (he got a lot wrong) but the antisemitism crisis was mainly cynical and dishonest - and mainly (not wholly) created to damage Corbyn and hand the Labour Party back to ‘safe’ hands. Job done!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
James Corden has bigger tits than RileyQuote:
Originally Posted by insider
That's not fair!Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
He's got bigger tits than most people. And even the Tory party!
Not. You're right about why Corbyn was stabbed in the back though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
You mean hes a bigger tit than most people ?:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Yes, fair comment 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
Sludge, as I said above, her Dad is from Salford.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
My son is from Bristol and supports Cardiff City and Wales.
Is he a plastic?
why does every discussion or topic eventually descend into political one-upmanship, not just on here, but everywhere online
After an afternoon of misery at the football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindec
For once a Tory has made me laugh at loud.
They wont do good in Wales as they wont get credit. FFS!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously thats cheered me up. Poor feckin Tories. All those massive improvements like they implement in England and Scotland pointless improving Wales they wont appreciate it.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant.
Yeah he should be supporting one of the Brizzle teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
That's ridiculous 😂. And which one? Should he get his ruler out and work out who he is closer to, or can he factor in other issues? All his mates support City but he's 500m closer to Rovers ground?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Lung
What about a family of Celtic fans from east Glasgow whose son moves to the west side? Should their son be a Rangers fan?
People can of course support they like, but supporting who a parent supports is as common as supporting a local team and perfectly legitimate.
Rovers then of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Rangers are on the south side so that is irrelevant.