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How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
We have been told by the club in recent interviews that VT was putting in £3 million of his money every month to keep us ticking over. £36 million a year.
How much were we losing per month prior to VT arriving?
He isn't getting any younger. I understand there was debt prior to him coming and that we were threatened by HMRC on a number of occasions but if he was to walk tomorrow and he isn't getting any younger, how is that going to be plugged and has it got worse since the days of Sam, The Riddler et al?
Things were awful back then but were they losing £3 million a month awful?
Is the amount payable to plug the gap (per month) getting bigger?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
I thought it was £3m at its highest but now, after reducing the wage bill since relegation, its now about £1m.
Dont know what it was before Tan, but the amount of money in football back then was substantially lower, so any comparison is tricky to evaluate.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Bloop
I thought it was £3m at its highest but now, after reducing the wage bill since relegation, its now about £1m.
Dont know what it was before Tan, but the amount of money in football back then was substantially lower, so any comparison is tricky to evaluate.
Yeah, you'd like to think that with the squad we have now, compared to the one we had, it would be a greatly reduced wage bill.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
Yeah, you'd like to think that with the squad we have now, compared to the one we had, it would be a greatly reduced wage bill.
It's been mentioned a few times on Sky that our wage bill is bottom half
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
How many threads are you going to start saying practically the same thing you boring f*cker.?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Henry Hill
How many threads are you going to start saying practically the same thing you boring f*cker.?
Give the guy a break ffs, he's asking a valid question, what's wrong with that?
My understanding is that the club is now losing closer to £1mil per month, but that still begs belief at this point.
How on earth are we still losing £1mil per month?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Henry Hill
How many threads are you going to start saying practically the same thing you boring f*cker.?
Starting to think Blue Lewj is a disgruntled ex-employee of the club on a one man mission :hehe:
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Ninja
Give the guy a break ffs, he's asking a valid question, what's wrong with that?
My understanding is that the club is now losing closer to £1mil per month, but that still begs belief at this point.
How on earth are we still losing £1mil per month?
Bollocks
If anyone needs to give anyone a break it’s you and the OP repeating yourself daily. Boring pair of pricks. Probably the same person.
Get a life
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Der Kaiser
Starting to think Blue Lewj is a disgruntled ex-employee of the club on a one man mission :hehe:
He’s a 🤡
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Originally Posted by
Henry Hill
How many threads are you going to start saying practically the same thing you boring f*cker.?
Looking at issues at the club.
You know, the one this message board is for. Apologies it wasn't about the six nations or food.
You can put me on ignore. It is very simple. Probably quicker then the three replies you've typed out.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
It was a genuine question.
A few have had a go at answering it but I genuinely do not know. The debts owing to HMRC had us sailing close to the wind a few times but how much were we losing month to month.
Did that improve when Tan took over and how does it compare to now? He wants to leave us in a better state than he came.
League position he looks to be failing on that front but how are we doing monthly loss wise?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
It's not the question fella, it's who's asking it I suppose.
You seem to constantly run the club down, that's how it reads anyway, I'm not saying you don't care.. but you strangle the life out of threads repeating the same stuff over, you must surely see that?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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dembethewarrior
It's not the question fella, it's who's asking it I suppose.
You seem to constantly run the club down, that's how it reads anyway, I'm not saying you don't care.. but you strangle the life out of threads repeating the same stuff over, you must surely see that?
You must also see that almost every thread on the club leads back to the incompetency of Tan.
Even today's game is a direct result of what Tan has created.
You can't mention any of the club's problems without mentioning Tan.
If people want to pretend everything is fine and it will all be OK then that's up to them. Surely somebody can ask a question that is such a large part of the reason we're currently in the predicament, how much we're losing per month. I'm genuinely interested in how much we were losing prior to Tan getting involved and surely somebody knows or can have an educated guess.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
How much were we losing per month prior to VT arriving?
Why don’t you log on to the Companies House website, download the club’s accounts from the relevant period and find out for yourself?
It’s easy enough to do and it doesn’t cost much. If you’re genuinely interested, it would be a far better use of your time than posting an endless stream of questions on here that you’re not going to get answers to.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
Why don’t you log on to the Companies House website, download the club’s accounts from the relevant period and find out for yourself?
It’s easy enough to do and it doesn’t cost much. If you’re genuinely interested, it would be a far better use of your time than posting an endless stream of questions on here that you’re not going to get answers to.
I thought I'd ask on here.
Shoot me.
It is my time as you say.
I post a lot less than many have on here.
I might not agree with some ways you spend your time but then that's none of my business is it.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Originally Posted by
City123
It's been mentioned a few times on Sky that our wage bill is bottom half
That’s just speculation, though. Until all of the clubs in the Championship post their accounts for the relevant period, we won’t know how much each is spending.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
You must also see that almost every thread on the club leads back to the incompetency of Tan.
Even today's game is a direct result of what Tan has created.
You can't mention any of the club's problems without mentioning Tan.
If people want to pretend everything is fine and it will all be OK then that's up to them. Surely somebody can ask a question that is such a large part of the reason we're currently in the predicament, how much we're losing per month. I'm genuinely interested in how much we were losing prior to Tan getting involved and surely somebody knows or can have an educated guess.
One thing us for sure and that is that every thread that you (or Ninja) start or dominate leads back to the notion that you have regarding the incompetency of Tan, the board, the manager and anyone who works for the club. I have generally tried to stop contributing to any thread that you start or contribute to on here because it is so boring and a total waste of time but I definitely subscribe to the old saying that ‘if you give someone enough rope he will eventually hang himself’ and you appear to be doing a great job of proving that to be true by your incessant, obsessive, whingeing.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
I thought I'd ask on here.
Shoot me.
Did you really believe you’d get an answer to the question?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
One thing us for sure and that is that every thread that you (or Ninja) start or dominate leads back to the notion that you have regarding the incompetency of Tan, the board, the manager and anyone who works for the club. I have generally tried to stop contributing to any thread that you start or contribute to on here because it is so boring and a total waste of time but I definitely subscribe to the old saying that ‘if you give someone enough rope he will eventually hang himself’ and you appear to be doing a great job of proving that to be true by your incessant, obsessive, whingeing.
Post positive Tan threads then.
Tell us all the things they're doing well if it bothers you.
Or tell us why what we're saying is wrong if it is.
Enough rope to hang myself is an odd one. I am a fan who thinks the owner and board are running us ridiculously badly. Not sure how I'm hanging myself if that's all I'm doing.
If Tan changes his methods and runs the club well.
Happy days if so, bring it on.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
Did you really believe you’d get an answer to the question?
I thought some fans on a Cardiff City message board would be able to tell us how much we were losing prior to Tan, yes.
Given we have Trust members who comment on accounts then I thought I might get an answer.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
I'm genuinely interested in how much we were losing prior to Tan getting involved and surely somebody knows or can have an educated guess.
But not interested enough to find the answer for yourself, it seems. Instead, you’d prefer to keep spamming this board with the same repetitive nonsense.
The notion of comparing them with now is impossible anyway as nobody will be able to obtain the present figures anyway. It’s all pointless guesswork.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
It was a genuine question.
Have they improved our monthly loss levels in comparison to before they got involved?
That was all I asked. If nobody knows fair enough.
Just get the usual snipers just ignoring the question and just having a pop though.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
But not interested enough to find the answer for yourself, it seems. Instead, you’d prefer to keep spamming this board with the same repetitive nonsense.
The notion of comparing them with now is impossible anyway as nobody will be able to obtain the present figures anyway. It’s all pointless guesswork.
Well clearly not interested enough, no.
We could have an answer based on last season's figures.
I guess I'm in the wrong place.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
If people want to pretend everything is fine and it will all be OK then that's up to them.
Wow. The “Blue Lewj Special”. Who saw that coming?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
It was a genuine question.
Have the improved our monthly loss levels in comparison to before they got involved?
Why not find out for yourself? You could download the accounts for the last ten or fifteen years, do a comparison and write a report. That might actually be interesting for a change.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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Canton Kev
Wow. The “Blue Lewj Special”. Who saw that coming?
If people don't care enough to take action then they can't be that pi$$ed off can they?
Not sure what you don't get about that.
I am genuinely surprised by the lack of reaction from fans to what is happening to our club. It is being wrecked by the way it is being run.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
Why not find out for yourself? You could download the accounts for the last ten or fifteen years, do a comparison and write a report. That might actually be interesting for a change.
Because I can't be bothered.
Interesting? What like your high and mighty snipes at people on here? Alright then.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
Well clearly not interested enough, no.
Indeed. You have a question, but you’d prefer others to answer it rather than try to find the answer yourself, which would take little time or effort.
It’s a bit like your protest campaign. You’d prefer others to organise protests rather than organise them yourself, and then you grizzle about the lack of protests.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
I am genuinely surprised by the lack of reaction from fans to what is happening to our club. It is being wrecked by the way it is being run.
So what are you doing about it?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
Indeed. You have a question, but you’d prefer others to answer it rather than try to find the answer yourself, which would take little time or effort.
It’s a bit like your protest campaign. You’d prefer others to organise protests rather than organise them yourself, and then you grizzle about the lack of protests.
What I did was go to a Cardiff City message board where people comment on the accounts yearly and ask a question about the club accounts and monthly losses. That's all.
If it has got on your nerves as well then all the better.
Have a good day.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
So what are you doing about it?
Wasting my time looking for anybody that cares on here.
People ripping the soul out of our club and people seem happy enough to just let it continue without doing anything.
I'll do what I need to do to see change when I can.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
Because I can't be bothered.
Precisely. You complain about a lack of action from others and claim others don’t care enough to do anything, but you take no action of any sort yourself. You just whinge on and on and on and on…..
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
Precisely. You complain about a lack of action from others and claim others don’t care enough to do anything, but you take no action of any sort yourself. You just whinge on and on and on and on…..
I said I couldn't be bothered to go through accounts and asked people who may have already commented on them to answer.
Instead I get @rseholes like you picking holes in everything.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
People ripping the soul out of our club and people seem happy enough to just let it continue without doing anything.
You mean people like you who do nothing?
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
Do you know the answer to the question I asked?
If not then I'm not sure why you reply.
You're not my biggest fan.
Couldn't give a flying **** about not being cheered on by the board's biggest ego.
If you don't know the answer fair enough.
I'll do what I have to do when it is needed.
You of all people telling people what to do after your u turn.
Ridiculous.
Have a nice day. Go and give your certain brand of high and mighty advice to somebody else.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
I said I couldn't be bothered to go through accounts and asked people who may have already commented on them to answer.
When I wanted to find out details of the club’s debt levels about a decade ago, do you know what I did? I went onto the Companies House website, paid a few quid and downloaded the accounts.
I could give you the answer to your pre-Tan wage bill question easily enough if I logged on to my computer and had a look at the accounts I paid for and downloaded back then, but guess what? I’m a bit like you. I can’t be bothered.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
You must also see that almost every thread on the club leads back to the incompetency of Tan.
Even today's game is a direct result of what Tan has created.
You can't mention any of the club's problems without mentioning Tan.
If people want to pretend everything is fine and it will all be OK then that's up to them. Surely somebody can ask a question that is such a large part of the reason we're currently in the predicament, how much we're losing per month. I'm genuinely interested in how much we were losing prior to Tan getting involved and surely somebody knows or can have an educated guess.
Every thread ends up the same mate that's the point.
You don't have to be at the front of the line leading the charge. No battle was ever won talking to yourself online :thumbup:
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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The Lone Gunman
When I wanted to find out details of the club’s debt levels about a decade ago, do you know what I did? I went onto the Companies House website, paid a few quid and downloaded the accounts.
I could give you the answer to your pre-Tan wage bill question easily enough if I logged on to my computer and had a look at the accounts I paid for and downloaded back then, but guess what? I’m a bit like you. I can’t be bothered.
Good for you.
I was looking more for the people that could answer my question really. Yet you pop up again and add nothing but have a dig at me.
You say after every post how boring my posts are but never put me on ignore.
Have a good day.
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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dembethewarrior
Every thread ends up the same mate that's the point.
You don't have to be at the front of the line leading the charge. No battle was ever won talking to yourself online :thumbup:
Posting on these messageboards is 99% a waste of time.
Even more so if you and TLG pop up not actually giving an answer.
No battle was ever won talking to yourself on line. You post a lot more than I do. :thumbup:
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Re: How much were we losing per month prior to and after Tan arrived?
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blue lewj
Wasting my time looking for anybody that cares on here.
People ripping the soul out of our club and people seem happy enough to just let it continue without doing anything.
I'll do what I need to do to see change when I can.
Loads aren't happy. They just chose not to shout into an echo chamber and only hear their own voice wallow back..
