Tan Out sign behind the players walking on.
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Tan Out sign behind the players walking on.
It isn't me.
A few years back my Keep Cardiff Blue sign was very prominent 🙂Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Farts
Top darts from Gerwyn.
I forgot it was on. Nice to see Manley hit a 161.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I am more interested in the tan out sign
Topless dartsQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
RoehamptonQuote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
Haha, I feckin Love this 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You profess to be a "proper" darts fan and don't bother to tune in to the main event of the year in Cardiff.
You offer zero credence to the man you have publicly ridiculed for so long, the Great Gerwen "Gezzy" Price, after he wins the night
I doubt very much you were anywhere near the electric atmosphere tonight unlike many others.
If you were you'd have scuttled off well before the Great Gezzy stuck two fingers up to you amd the rest of the Sky Broadcastimg company.
Bravo Gezzy 👏 👏 👏
Why would Gerwyn Price stick two fingers up to Sky?Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
I was working last night and got home at about 10pm. I quite enjoyed the World Seniors last year and my first thought was to see what was happening there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
I generally work a Thursday evening anyway and so the Premier League isn't something I've ever really been bothered with, apart from finals night. Any interest I've had in it has been fleeting. I much prefer the proper tournaments and would even rather watch World Series or Euro Tour stuff on ITV4.
But if you'd rather think I snubbed it because Price won it, then roger yourself away with that. Until this thread appeared I hadn't even realised it was on. In fact, I almost asked why a Tan Out sign was at the Circus Tavern as it seemed a bit odd.
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Stop being a shit stirrer.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Howmuch money can these players make now? I'm not a big fan, but read about darts from tome to time, and they seem to play in front of very large crowds, plus the TV Money and all that, sponsorship.
Gerwyn Price has apparently won approximately £1.2 million in prize money during the last two years.
The prize money collected by Michael Smith for winning the recent World Championship was £500,000.
I was listening to Paul Nicholson talking about this. The prize money they get and they actually have to spend is very different, once tax and agents fees are taken into account. Apparently agents fees are somewhere in the region of 20%.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Outside of the seeds/tour card holders they have to pay their own expenses as well. Basically anyone outside of the top 60 is making little or no moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I've heard of players who are struggling in the rankings going into Players' Championship events needing to do well to pay the mortgage. That's pressure, needing to win games just to keep a roof over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Darts isn't a sport ffs.
Eating a load of food fast isn't a sport.
Juggling isn't a sport
I don't think it's a sportQuote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
What physical conditioning like strength , power , speed and flexibility do these players have ?
It's a pub pastime turned into great TV
And it is great tv
And like snooker it's highly skilled
It's like fishing
But it's not a sport , surely not ?
What about stuff like weightlifting? No skill involved at all, just pure strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Before you can debate what constitutes a sport you need to define what a sport is. The Oxford dictionary suggests "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or a team competes against another or others for entertainment". Darts requires a small amount of physical exertion, no less than a weightlifter requires a small amount of skill. I'd argue darts is more entertaining than weightlifting.
Whilst weightlifting is incredibly tedious the people involved have strength , power , flexibility etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Apart from one or two the vast majority of darts players exhibit little in the way of athletic physiques
In fact some of them are obese
From time to time in football , rugby , athletics , cricket , etc you might see an out of shape competitor but it's very rare
The reason why you see overweight darts players , snooker players and fisherman is because you don't have to be very fit , if at all , to compete
I'm talking about the OED definition of a sport. Requires physical exertion and skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Weightlifting involves very little skill. Darts involves very little physical exertion. I couldn't give a rat's arse about the physical condition of a competitor as that doesn't matter according to the OED. So, using the OED definition, not Sludge's own opinion, what's the difference?
There is plenty of skill involved in using ones muscles to lift a heavy barbellQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
In fact I would argue that weightlifting involves more skill than darts
So it's double top really
Rubbish. It's not skill. It's strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You have to engage your muscles and bring some into play and not others if you are weightliftingQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Do you think it's just chance or luck or genetics that top runners , footballers , swimmers , squash players , rugby players or cricketers have generally good athletic bodies ?
They need them as they are involved in strenuous athletic activity of power , strength , flexibility etc
There's a reason why Andy Fordham , Barney whatever his name is , Filthy Phil Taylor etc etc have poor physiques
It's because darts is not a sport . Those who love darts ....and snooker or fishing ....and other pastimes and hobbies that have a competitive edge will argue that they are but if they are then so is monopoly , bridge , chess , skittles etc
I'm still waiting for you to tell me what skill is needed in weightlifting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I have just told you , engaging different muscle groups through a liftQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Traps do some of the work , lats , biceps etc
It's just as skillful as throwing a dart
Some would call both a bit brain dead but I couldn't lift heavy weights even when I was younger and stronger
In terms of darts you watch darts regularly enough to realise these guys are often in poor shape
They wouldn't get away with that to the same extent in football , rugby , swimming , athletics etc
Darts related... 22 years later, though likely new news to some.
Following Taylor's sexual assault conviction he proceeded to win a further seven world titles.
Sky/the media/darts did an excellent job of ignoring/suppressing/underplaying that unsavoury incident. I seem to recall reading Taylor would have a difficult time appearing at Scottish events.
Darts champion Phil Taylor guilty of sex attack on women - https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...tack-on-women/
Phil 'the power' Taylor.
Imagine this introduction instead. "Ladies and gentleman, please welcome as he nonces his way onto the stage, Phil 'the groper' Taylor".