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Must be true as its not a Trump leak :
A classified intelligence report concluded that the virus which sparked the pandemic probably came from a Chinese lab but was not part of a weapons program.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...58b89630&ei=25
Trump vilified for saying the same ,one may say he was braver a the time ??
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nese-lab-claim
Thanks China
One might say he’s an utter fool but if you rant about enough things you may be right once every hundred.
It also says the report has "low confidence" in the judgement.
Why is this on the football board?
What's the high confidence version?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
The headline is massively misleading.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
It should read '2 out of 8 U.S. agencies believe with "low-to-moderate level confidence" that Covid-19 was most likely leaked from Wuhan lab"
Or, if the media was less clickbaity and misleading:
"4 out of 8 U.S. agencies believe that Covid-19 was most likely the result of natural transmission"
what the report apparently says is that of the possible origin scenarios the lab leak was now considered to be the most likely, but there is still low confidence of that, so it could be there are like 4 scenarios with a 19% chance of being right and the lab leak they think has a 24% chance of being correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
this has been reported very differently in different publications, depending on how sensationalist they want to be
Because Football fans were locked down for multiple years and ended up watching games played in empty stadiums on the tele?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Yeah, that’s what it is. Nothing to do with LoM once more attempting to thrust his warped view of the world on the rest of us. ****ing disgrace that this guy hasn’t been banned by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's not true LOM
You struggle when you don't copy and paste don't you.
the other strange thing about this was the us government agency that this came from was something like Energy?
Alternative Forum???
Some sort of coup for the usual suspects to take control of this board, too
And this news means Belarus was right to keep on going as if nothing was happening?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3543Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But!! he also saidQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
"The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA-infected people back. People that go to far away places to help out are great - but must suffer the consequences!"
"It's really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!"
"When you see the other side chopping off heads, waterboarding doesn't sound very severe."
"To be blunt, people would vote for me. They just would. Why? Maybe because I'm so good looking."
"If you look at Saddam Hussein, he killed terrorists. I'm not saying he was an angel, but this guy killed terrorists."
the list goes on and on and on
Not sure what it is, but have some sympathy, he may have Coivd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Bit obvious though, the first cases were there as were all the first deaths? .they can deny it all they want but does anyone believe it didn’t start in Wuhan?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Who are they again? I need to pay more attention I grant you but coming on here every now and then I’m struggling to recall who they are these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
And? Are you saying more people would have died in Belarus if they hadn’t kept on playing football and letting crowds in?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
No it means it meant no differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If you take a look at the conspiracy board you’ll quickly see the patternQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Except the master lunatic whose time is too consumed with “research” and the other board to come to this one
Some people would like to know if they were denied their freedom because of a naturally occurring virus or whether it was hot-rodded in a bio-weapons lab. What we do know is the NIH were funding risky virus research in Wuhan.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The virus acts and behaves in a way that had never been seen before. It wasnt the standard H1N1 plus slight variation. It behaved very very differently, according to various programs Something we have never seen before... so - yes it was probably was from a lab. China will never admit it, it will be impossible to conclusively prove and we cant exactly take them to court over it
If it’s from a lab , rest assured they would know a cure beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Why do you think that they would know a cure for it beforehand?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...an-market-data
Newly released genetic data gathered from a live food market in Wuhan has linked Covid-19 with raccoon dogs, adding weight to the theory that infected animals sold at the site started the coronavirus pandemic, researchers involved in the work say.
Who'd have thunk it!
Not this bloke..Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
For a week, major media have been hyping the "stongest evidence yet" on COVID origins
Preprint appeared tonight...and turns out to be a risibly thin, nearly content-free, non-story written by stooges who falsely claimed "incontrovertible evidence" last year
https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/stat...00168963551232
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING‼️<br><br>“A lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science and by common sense.” <br><br>Former Director of National Intelligence <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnRatcliffe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JohnRatcliffe</a> testifies that the Wuhan lab is responsible for spawning a global pandemic. <a href="https://t.co/RHFV4FwNbV">pic.twitter.com/RHFV4FwNbV</a></p>— Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic (@COVIDSelect) <a href="https://twitter.com/COVIDSelect/status/1648351285924581376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This guy doesn't come across as a credible witness looking at his track record, and this is contrary to what any of the US agencies are sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
I think the big lesson from all this is that people should be allowed to question the benefit of masks, vaccines, origin of the virus, lockdowns etc without being dismissed or condemned.
It's still the case that the country that had no real lockdowns had a far better death rate than many who didn't, and it does seem that the virus could have leaked from a lab and that masks did very little. I have no issue with the vaccine, but I can understand why some would.
Covid has ruined so much for me. I think questioning much of what we went along with is really important. Indeed, almost our job as citizens.
Which country was that?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
What this Sweden?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-...emic_in_Sweden
I stopped reading at "This article's factual accuracy may be compromised due to out-of-date information. (December 2020)".Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Gosh, and there was I thinking I was in your ignore club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
So the details about Sweden having a far higher death rate than comparative Nordic countries before they introduced similar restrictions as their neighbours before vaccines came into effect removing their necessity were incorrect then?
Sweden had 24k Covid deaths with a population of 10m.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Norway had 5k Covid deaths with a population of 5m.
Finland had 9k Covid deaths with a population of 5m.
The most comparable countries to Sweden in terms of wealth, populations, climate, social and cultural norms, etc, had notably lower death rates.
This thread explains itQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/st...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
That thread explains nothing. It states that Sweden, for some reason had a far greater outbreak in 2020 than their Nordic neighbours who imposed lockdowns in 2020 when Sweden decided not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1