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What does Hodgson's re-appointment at Palace tell us about the state of football in the Premiership?
Parish always comes across as a knowledgeable, switched-on bloke.....
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Cyclops
Parish always comes across as a knowledgeable, switched-on bloke.....
It's just a Red Adair appointment, isn't it?
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Re: What does Hodgson's re-appointment at Palace tell us about the state of football in the Premiership?
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North Cardiff Blue
It's just a Red Adair appointment, isn't it?
Yankie managers are yesterday's fag paper.
They could've gone for Erik Van Schmidt. Unrivalled record in German and Durch leagues, speaks pigeon English and well-schooled in the art of media presentation.
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Re: What does Hodgson's re-appointment at Palace tell us about the state of football in the Premiership?
In all honesty probably nothing .
I would guess thant it indicates that Palace have someone lined up post season , who is currently coming to the end of their contract, and a stop gap is required.
Obviously complete guess work on my part.
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So the appointment of a 75-y-o steeped in a tradition of drilling defences and negative defensive football is the way to get the upper hand in modern football?
Redknapp for the Cherries next?
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Majorblue
In all honesty probably nothing .
I would guess thant it indicates that Palace have someone lined up post season , who is currently coming to the end of their contract, and a stop gap is required.
Obviously complete guess work on my part.
An almost certainly accurate guess though, given Hodgson has been appointed only till the end of the season.
Shore things up, keep them in Prem, hand over to new manager then.
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I would much prefer any managerial appointment, including our own, was a person from the UK and not a person operating in an inferior league overseas. The fact Hodgson is old should not be a major issue as all of the training and other vigorous activities is mainly undertaken by the many coaches clubs seem to employ. It would be nice for British managers to be given more of chance but we are where we are.
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Just shows how important survival in the Premier League. Palace have tried and failed to push on into the upper echelons, so have prioritised survival above anything else.
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It just shows how desperate teams are to stay in that league.
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Vindec
I would much prefer any managerial appointment, including our own, was a person from the UK and not a person operating in an inferior league overseas. The fact Hodgson is old should not be a major issue as all of the training and other vigorous activities is mainly undertaken by the many coaches clubs seem to employ. It would be nice for British managers to be given more of chance but we are where we are.
Why?
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Re: What does Hodgson's re-appointment at Palace tell us about the state of football in the Premiership?
I thought Roy only liked to play Worrhamah nowadays.
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NYCBlue
Why?
Read on.
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"knows the league" "knows the club" "club DNA" type bullshit that has pervaded in British football for years
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Something else to factor in is the wishes of the mob.
They appear divided, some hailing Roy as a Messiah, others wanting the up-dating experiment to continue.
Rather like this board when Warlock was suggested as a make-shift Messiah.
It sort of tells me that older styles of football can work in the Premiership - and that newer styles are dependant on the abilities of managers and players. Get this wrong, and disaster waits in the wings.
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Their only priority this season is staying up. They have the option of a massively experienced coach, who has operated at the highest levels during a very successful career. He also knows the club extremely well. Why would they not appoint him.
While hodgsons teams do tend to be defensive, I'd object to the idea that he's a proponent of 'old fashioned football' as has been suggested. He likes his side's to get the ball down on the floor and keep possession. He's hardly an old school hoof it merchant
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Vindec
Read on.
I read your whole post. I still don't know why it would better for British managers to be given more of a chance. Or who would benefit.
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Majorblue
In all honesty probably nothing .
I would guess thant it indicates that Palace have someone lined up post season , who is currently coming to the end of their contract, and a stop gap is required.
Obviously complete guess work on my part.
They're after Lamouchi
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NYCBlue
I read your whole post. I still don't know why it would better for British managers to be given more of a chance. Or who would benefit.
That was my take as well.
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Cyclops
Yankie managers are yesterday's fag paper.
They could've gone for Erik Van Schmidt. Unrivalled record in German and Durch leagues, speaks pigeon English and well-schooled in the art of media presentation.
Coo. I bet he speaks pidgin English too.
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NYCBlue
I read your whole post. I still don't know why it would better for British managers to be given more of a chance. Or who would benefit.
British jobs for British workers init!
Last few appointments off my head.....Gary O'Neil, Graham Potter, Nathan Jones, Dyche...then the 2 Spanish lads and De Zebri (replacing a English guy who got promoted)
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chrisp_1927
He likes his side's to get the ball down on the floor and keep possession.
Since when :hehe:
I hope they go down.
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J R Hartley
Since when :hehe:
I hope they go down.
Since the last 40 or so years of his career I think .
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Taunton Blue Genie
Coo. I bet he speaks pidgin English too.
Listen here, ole fruit, I'm just a poor, uneducated mush - not like them globtrotters who flaunt their noose all over soshul meadya
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Something had to be done . I believe it was the right decision. 12 games without a win, up until the Arsenal game , 4 games without scoring. Football is a results business. Views didn’t get any.
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Cyclops
So the appointment of a 75-y-o steeped in a tradition of drilling defences and negative defensive football is the way to get the upper hand in modern football?
I don't think Hodgson's appointment tells us anything about the Premier League, but it does tell about the mess Palace find themselves in. They have won just once in their last 17 outings in all competitions and have scored just 5 goals in their last 12 Premier League games. That would get a manager the sack at any level.
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Cyclops
It sort of tells me that older styles of football can work in the Premiership - and that newer styles are dependant on the abilities of managers and players.
:hehe:
Cutting edge analysis there.
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Zaha is having a poor season by his standards and Palace are seriously short of goals. If Hodgson can get Zaha playing then the goals should come - you wouldn’t expect a Hodgson team to start conceding more goals.
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The Premier league is money grabbing corporate bullshit
The only good thing about it is when smaller clubs are in it annoying the spoilt brats
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Ivortheengine
Something had to be done . I believe it was the right decision. 12 games without a win, up until the Arsenal game , 4 games without scoring. Football is a results business. Views didn’t get any.
Patrick Views doesn't have the same ring to it.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The Premier league is money grabbing corporate bullshit
The only good thing about it is when smaller clubs are in it annoying the spoilt brats
We all know what it is.
It isn't going to change.
The smaller teams don't bother the big boys either, let's be honest.
Leicester won the league then it went back to normal. You'll get the odd season of a team or 2 having a decent go at it like Fulham and Brentford but they often tail off.
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Place have 10 games to, 8 of those are against teams below them.
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chrisp_1927
Their only priority this season is staying up. They have the option of a massively experienced coach, who has operated at the highest levels during a very successful career. He also knows the club extremely well. Why would they not appoint him.
While hodgsons teams do tend to be defensive, I'd object to the idea that he's a proponent of 'old fashioned football' as has been suggested. He likes his side's to get the ball down on the floor and keep possession. He's hardly an old school hoof it merchant
Very successful?
Apart from helping a few Scandinavian clubs to improve, which wasn't exactly difficult, what exactly has he achieved in the UK that makes you think he's been successful?
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I just looked at the PL table. Jesus! There are 9 teams in the fight to stay up with only 4 points separating the bottom from the "top".
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NYCBlue
I just looked at the PL table. Jesus! There are 9 teams in the fight to stay up with only 4 points separating the bottom from the "top".
Great, isn’t it? The Premier League has been excellent entertainment so far this season. A title race with an unexpected contender that looks likely to go to the wire, a wide open relegation battle, the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Fulham punching above their weight and a record-breaking goalscorer.
At various stages this season, six or seven different sides have looked doomed to relegation. Southampton and Bournemouth are the current favourites, but with nine clubs right in the mix anything could happen.
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Meanwhile in the real football world working class clubs like Bury struggle whilst the fat cats wallow in filthy cash
Manchester United about to be sold for a Disgraceful amount of money
God bless the Premier League , its only 60 quid a ticket
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Meanwhile in the real football world working class clubs like Bury struggle whilst the fat cats wallow in filthy cash
Manchester United about to be sold for a Disgraceful amount of money
God bless the Premier League , its only 60 quid a ticket
You'd pay it too for a day in the Kop.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Meanwhile in the real football world working class clubs like Bury struggle whilst the fat cats wallow in filthy cash
Manchester United about to be sold for a Disgraceful amount of money
God bless the Premier League , its only 60 quid a ticket
When was it any different?
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Ninja
You'd pay it too for a day in the Kop.
I wouldn't give my money to that bunch
Spurs , Arsenal .....how are working class fans of those clubs who cannot afford season tickets able to watch their club ?
Most of these clubs income now comes from tv money yet they still stiff the supporters
And it filters down through the leagues
I think it's all bollocks
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NYCBlue
When was it any different?
The gulf between the rich and poor in football has never been greater
And if the Premier league has its way it will increase
Horrible monstrosity
I am amazed people are still prepared to pay obscene money to watch football
To be fair CCFC pricing is very reasonable but even in the championships some clubs are fleecing the fans
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I wouldn't give my money to that bunch
Spurs , Arsenal .....how are working class fans of those clubs who cannot afford season tickets able to watch their club ?
Most of these clubs income now comes from tv money yet they still stiff the supporters
And it filters down through the leagues
I think it's all bollocks
Corporate greed, we both know that.
It'll never change Sludge, CCFC would be charging £60 a ticket if they thought they could get away with it.
