https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...prove-26699645
Looks like more brilliant work by Cardiff Council.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...prove-26699645
Looks like more brilliant work by Cardiff Council.
The shop owners took the funding and would have known what the plans were in terms of planning, parking etc. So they sort of did a deal with the Devil but aren't happy how things have turned out. Riverside is on its way to gentrification, it's been on its arse for decades, soon enough these shops will be gone and replaced by safe havens for the white middle class, it'll be old fashioned bicycles, baskets and floral dresses in no time.
You're having a laugh aren't you? Have you actually spent any time in Riverside over the past ten or so years? The last way it is heading, is towards gentrification! Infact it is heading the other way at a great rate of knotsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Plenty of time in Riverdale, it's happening, slowly but surely, it won't happen overnight but the middle classes are slowly buying up properly down there. Give it 20 years or so. Prime area for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
The OP is quite correct.
The article contains shop owners complaining about the lack of parking/drop off points.
Widening pavements and adding cycle lanes is ruining these shopping areas.
Same in Roath and Splott.
so build more parking.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Drove down a narrowed Maes-y-Coed Road today, 5/6 foot wide cycle lanes both sides of the road, me and the Mrs never seen one bike
Lovely pot holes in the road lanes being used by paying motorists though
Even better, the Lidl planning application.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
At the intersection with Caerphilly Road, you've 4 courses of action. Turn left onto Caerphilly Road, turn right onto Caerphilly Road, turn right into Lidl and straight on.
Before the bike lanes, it wasn't as bad; now, it's one lane all the way down till it fans out a bit. When there's a string of cars looking to turn right, you can't go straight on or left unless you think **** it at got into a bike lane.
No increased congestion there whatsoever.
I like the new name, very upmarket :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I've moved in!Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
The place is terrible; some people disagree, but I can't see it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
I think they are banning cars by the back door, little by little there will be no roads left for cars to drive in.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
I feel sorry for poor old Mr Wong, it's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Quite a depressing place full of hostels and bed sits, they will do well to turn it into new pontcanna…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
We have an awful council as far as planning and transport is concerned.
I don't mind the 20 mph limit in certain areas, but some of the decisions on roads and housing are just awful
I actually laugh every time I am on pen-y-lan road, the new lights and traffic system was designed by an imbecile. Remember when Homer Simpson designed a car? Literally that's Cardiff city planning department.
This sort of thing seems to be the latest craze amongst pretty much all local authorities at the moment.
Brilliant!! :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
it certainly is a great location for the " white middle class " ( as Tuerto named them ) a short walk into town for work ( do people still work in the center in offices ? ? ) and entertainment, any other big city it would be prime land, its done well to survive this long
I remember living in Sydney and you could walk from double bay ( where I lived and it was lovely ) to Sydneys financial / office center in under 1 hour, cycle it in 20 mins, yet between them 2 locations were Kings Cross and Darlinghurst ( both very low cost housing area's ) but the creeping had started and street by street the area appeared to be moving the right way ( often wonder what its like now )
Theres nowhere for it now due to the cycle lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
just outside Bath they closed a major road for 2 months to add a cycle path to a nearby town ( the pavement was maybe 10 ft wide before this ), in doing this they have made the road narrower, so when 2 lorries try to pass each other the mirrors often hit each other, its mentalQuote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
I drive the road a fair bit, only seen a handful of bikes on the cycle path in about 12 months :angry:
Riverside, Riverdale, Lower Pontcanna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Call it what you like.
The middle classes will own the properties but they won't live in them.
The buildings change, the places don't.
I lived in Double Bay for a few months back around 98.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
It seemed to take ages to get to town then on the bus.
As an aside, is Doc Graham's still kicking around on Tudor Rd?
Had my first tattoo done there.
I know there are a lot of cycle lane haters...but if it was your child you would prefer a safe lane for them. Unfortunately Britain isn't really built for the lanes
I'm convinced that nobody who designs roads has every driven a car in their life.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Yes, it's that Globailist nonsense, stop the peasants from owning and using cars, make it impossible to use them, build more cycle lanes and close roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Bikes might be alright in Spain but a total waste of time in wet Wales!
It's looks like private car ownership will soon be obsolete for the middle classes and below.Quote:
Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...entre-26714766
cowbridge road has like 3 at least public car parks within walking distance, other non-town shopping/restaurant heavy streets like city road, Albany road, Whitchurch road have got **** all, it can't be impossible to provide some parking provision near these placesQuote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Bus used to take under 1/2 hour to be fair, , ferry to Circular quay was a nice option ( but didnt run often enough imho ) but was a nice 20 min trip
Lovely place though
I remember reading when they started building the BBC headquarters outside the railway station, that it would lead to a price hike in Riverside. It will happen - might take a while, but little things like this (driving out the cheapo shops) will only help it along. Those big houses on the river would be snatched up, if the area was just a little 'nicer'.
It was nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
The house that I shared with Irish back packers...not so much
Great time though.
Darlinghurst is swanky now I hear, I used to live there….was a rough walk everyday through King’s Cross down William street to work and back. Saw some sights like I’ve never seen, hookers, trannys, hooker trannys, rent boys, smack heads, street kids and loose units 24 hrs a day…..they cleaned up the cross too too didn’t they?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Duckford's a cyclist. All down to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
The Council plans lacked any thought. There is nowhere to park - so why would anybody go visit the place. The people who live are at the lower end of the economic scale and Im guessing without much disposal income so. So well done the council - they cleaned the place up a bit (over budget and behind schedule I'd think) and at the same time killed off just about any visiting trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Anyone who has been there after dark - it's not very pleasant - unless you want to see drunks and smackheads off their heads, I can do that in Canton... A bad job, badly done with consequences that your typical council worker couldn't careless about.
Bits of Darlinghurst losing the roughness back in 93, not just a few houses, but one 1/2 of the end of a road, it was fascinating to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
yep, agree with Kings X, a sight to be seen all the time, 24 hours a day, think we have spoken before about and you said when you went back ( I think ) Kings X had cleaned up, they must have made improvements for Sydney 2000
I loved Double bay, have a coffee and a danish for breakfast in a bistro, then hit the beer in the same place :hehe: didnt need to leave the place till it closedQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Apparently, pontcanna wasn’t always like it is now, it used to be a bit run down. Always recall my old man and uncle telling me, I guess it must have been a long time ago…..Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
I think we need to define the word rundown, as pontcanna has always been 'posh' in my eyes. My grand mother used to live on Cathedral road - back in the early 70's and I remember it being 'posh' then as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Cathedral road had plenty of run down properties on it even up until the late eighties,smashed windows, a few squats and sectioned off into shitty bedsits. There's a cardiff landlord who took advantage of the grants scheme during that period ( A bit too much) who did very well down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Nah! More likely to get snapped up, converted into HMO's and jammed with students. HMO Licence fees straight into Council coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
in larger cities you'd certainly think so with riversides location, but Cardiff and South Wales in general seems strangely resistant to gentrification, I can't think of too many areas that have changed that significantly in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
ok the bay and st Mellons perhaps (whatever the opposite of gentrification is) but those were the result of significant external factors.
even towns like Caerphilly or pontypridd that you might think would be ripe for gentrification over the years, but it just doesn't seem to really happen
Riverside also has quite a lot of low quality, small housing which probably doesn't help it, and the local schools aren't great which will keep many people away.