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ugh I hate this kind of top 4 premier League banter. my kids are always watching this kind of shite on YouTube
Harry Maguire is clearly a very good player. a top end premier League defender and England international
Yes, it was a ridiculous thread title, stupid in fact............how could Pep make Harry Maguire look good?:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Pep isn't that great a manager
They could have lost that tonight no problem
Well start with some plastic surgeryQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
There’s loads of ‘could haves’ in life. Funny how ‘winners’ turn them into ‘I did its’.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I think he was lucky tonight and his teamQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Good players make good managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Everyone needs a bit of luck now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Well pep had some tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
His keeper saved his arse as Milan were easily dropping balls into the city box
Come on now Sludge, that’s like saying Haaland saved his arse by scoring so many goals. That’s what the ‘keeper is there for, it’s his job and that’s why the manager signed him and picks him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
What influence has pep had on haaland ?Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
It's mostly the money he cost imo
It’s also funny how born losers constantly denigrate winners. Actually, scratch that - it’s not funny at all. It’s incredibly tedious.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Who brought the keeper that 'saved his arse' to the club?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Go and have a wank over your baldy coach best mateQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
The moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
That's what
Sorry, next time I'll think of a Liverpool player. It'd be surprising though if Pep could make Maguire look good as he'd probably not be in his team. But then again, maybe he'd find a way to use his strengths like he did with Stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Reading the papers, I see there's a lot of FFP barbs. Like it or not, it was ever thus except the status quo has gone and there are some new richest clubs. I admit hearing clubs like Real Madrid complaining gives me an un Christian like pleasure. Having been funded by Madrid town council they have just lost as the stakes have gone up. "I'll see your city and I'll raise a country". Like all aspects of life, having money almost alway opens up more options. Manchester United are so rich that they've been able to waste over a billion since Ferguson left with very little in return. Chelsea seems to have wasted a lot. What was the underlying reason to try and apply FFP? It makes sense if it was to stop clubs going into huge debt to try and buy success. It seems to make less sense if money is being pumped into a club with no increase in debt. There's a certain amount of money available in football that's being pushed around. When Manchester United (over)paid 80m for Maguire, that money (eventually) should be available to Leicester to potentially recirculate. It shouldn't be lost to football if an owner doesn't take it out. Having more money in the system doesn't seem to be of any philosophical difference. I'm not talking about the morality of football being "worth" billions or where this new money is coming from.
I suppose the danger is if a benefactor decides to withdraw for whatever reason. These people are rich beyond Croesus. They could be made to put enough money in a place to guarantee that the club be run for the next n years. That'd probably stop the investors anyway.
Best manager for me
https://twitter.com/phillowe1/status...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
But they didn’tQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Funny how the luckiest people tend to work the hardest in sport
You try and slap players round like he did in this era and see how far it gets you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Absolutely pointless comparing generations.
Straight out of the Gary Player handbook !Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Luck is a huge factor in sportQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Refereeing, injuries etc
Man City have the money to replace players , at will
Not sure what you mean ,by “slapping players around “ Didn’t Fergie throw a boot at Beckham ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Pep the magnificent can be very aggressive and petulant like a kid
But he's a winner like McEnroe so there we go
Agree , most of the best sports people have an edge to themQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
But they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
A great manager would have made the team at his disposal with the money spent would have won that easilyQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Everyone thought that's what would happen
They were very lucky to win that and it could have gone either way
What did pep do that others wouldn't that won his team that game ?
Simple question
The simple answer to all your questioning of Pep is ‘If my auntie had bollocks etc etc’. His side has just pulled off the treble and you’re deriding him as a lucky manager. Yes, they’ve spent money but the crux of that is who you spend it on. The big spenders have always been around in football right back to the days of Preston, Blackburn and those other Lancashire pioneers luring Scots south of the border, it isn’t a recent phenomenon. The big winners are always the ones who spend the big money cleverly, Pep has done that at Man City, he’s proved that he’s a top notch manager, he and his teams find a way to win. They’ll have an equally dedicated successor in Vincent Kompany when the time is right as well, he’s turning top jobs down as we speak as he knows his fate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
No, it was a washing machine I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
It wasn't a great game or a great performance, and for a while, it looked like he'd made some wrong choices. But he didn't, he won. He managed a team to the treble. Yes, there is a disgusting amount of money involved. But you can't just buy it. PSG have proved that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
And the simple answer is that he put out a team that scored a goal and didn't concede one. On any other Saturday, 3 points in the bag. That's how you win things.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
"Pep isn't a good manager because he could've lost all the finals he won" is an interesting take :sherlock:
I think mere mortals with unreal amounts of money to spend on players are being lauded as majiciansQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
I don't buy that
Well it would be if that's the take that had been offeredQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
But it isn't
You almost certainly can buy it or if not get very closeQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
That's not a genius
Bob Paisley , Ferguson ........yes
If you have loads of money you can afford to make mistakesQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
The money being spent in football these days is way beyond that of Preston, Burnley , Wolves etc in real terms
The big winners are the teams that can last out the cash year upon year
Oh so he’s a good manager in all the other finals he won, but it’s just this one he’s a mediocre manager for winning?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Gotcha
You are very confusedQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
If your hero was managing a unfancied top flight team and got them to cast aside the big boys in the premiership to win the title ......and then took this side to beat Europe's best and win the champions league ?
Then he's the world's best manager blah blah blah
All this cap doffing to these hugely over paid people is ridiculous
Who’s my hero?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Spending in the last 5 years:
Man City - £1000m
Inter - £700m
Geez. Those poor (in terms of luck and finances) Italians having to come up against the power house that is Man City.
I think what Sludge it trying to say is that you ain’t going to get a team like Steaua Bucharest winning the competition anytime soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev