Russia

is there a coup brewing over there?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

is there a coup brewing over there?

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Not just there, Matt's rewriting posting protocols.

I’ll ask it on here because it seems more appropriate, but did the gifted and talented ones on here see this coming?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I’ll ask it on here because it seems more appropriate, but did the gifted and talented ones on here see this coming?

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Of course they did.

'Magnetic poles to flip' was obviously just code (for those able to join up the dots) for a Wagner rebellion.

It's all in the time line!

I'm looking forward to the big reveal that Prighozin is a Klaus Schwab protege. The hot dog selling gig was just deep cover.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Of course they did.

'Magnetic poles to flip' was obviously just code (for those able to join up the dots) for a Wagner rebellion.

It's all in the time line!

I'm looking forward to the big reveal that Prighozin is a Klaus Schwab protege. The hot dog selling gig was just deep cover.

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They knew something was up when he started selling fried crickets in his restaurant chain. Rostov-on-Don is on lockdown.........clues are all there if you know where to look!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I’ll ask it on here because it seems more appropriate, but did the gifted and talented ones on here see this coming?

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Yes, I believe it was outlined in the WEF newsletter in May 2018 when they were presenting the new 10 year plan. All you need to do is your research and it's there in black and white.

Just wait until February 2024, this will seem like a cakewalk and you'll all be crying. And your grandchildren won't like you.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I’ll ask it on here because it seems more appropriate, but did the gifted and talented ones on here see this coming?

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I see there's now another 'if only you simple folk could read between the lines' merchant on the main board now :shrug::hehe:

Can't be long before a "Progozhin is marching on Moscow having heard that a Hunter Biden funded bio-lab has been found in the grounds of the Kremlin" theory pops up I suppose!

Bakhmut was a nothing burger then by the looks of it according to Wagner

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

I see there's now another 'if only you simple folk could read between the lines' merchant on the main board now :shrug::hehe:

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Yes, but he does write a lot (a lot....) of lines (in every post)!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Yes, but he does write a lot (a lot....) of lines (in every post)!

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I thought he was Feedy at first but now I'm not sure.

What's up boys, am I detecting a case of premature exasperation?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What's up boys, am I detecting a case of premature exasperation?

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They were prematurely celebrating a guy who's in charge of a mob that killed estimates of + 50k Ukrainians in Bakhmut alone
what a shit show. Whatever happened to the peace loving far left ? NO talk of peace, they have to win at any cost.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

They were prematurely celebrating a guy who's in charge of a mob that killed estimates of + 50k Ukrainians in Bakhmut alone
what a shit show. Whatever happened to the peace loving far left ? NO talk of peace, they have to win at any cost.

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I bet Klaus was worried too having his WEF boy threatened like that!

Trouble with Russia its still stuck in 1917 with Lenin’s Bolsheviks ideals and protect the Motherland bullshit .

They suppress their people, restrict the outside world from their gaze , ensure they don't educate themselves fully to the global world resulting in a mass of people unable to think for themselves , or seek a democratic modern society with inclusivity.

Ironically the wealthy Russians do enjoy those global freedoms of knowledge and wealth.

Such hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I bet Klaus was worried too having his WEF boy threatened like that!

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The left love state covert terrorism. Just look at East Germany, South Aftica , Ireland, Cuba, Russia. Iran, Syria , North Korea, El Salvador , Venezuela, Angola the list is endless

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

They were prematurely celebrating a guy who's in charge of a mob that killed estimates of + 50k Ukrainians in Bakhmut alone
what a shit show. Whatever happened to the peace loving far left ? NO talk of peace, they have to win at any cost.

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Strange how different people can look at the same thing and some see something that just isn’t there. Clearly, all that’s happening in this thread is that a few people are taking the piss out of a small group on here who purport never to be shocked by anything that happens in this world because they’d seen it coming. Typically, Gluey et al only put in an appearance after an event, which caught me for one on the hop, and when they do, all that happens is they prove they have nothing worthwhile to say on the matter.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Strange how different people can look at the same thing and some see something that just isn’t there. Clearly, all that’s happening in this thread is that a few people are taking the piss out of a small group on here who purport never to be shocked by anything that happens in this world because they’d seen it coming. Typically, Gluey et al only put in an appearance after an event, which caught me for one on the hop, and when they do, all that happens is they prove they have nothing worthwhile to say on the matter.

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https://twitter.com/kimpkag4eva/stat...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Strange how different people can look at the same thing and some see something that just isn’t there. Clearly, all that’s happening in this thread is that a few people are taking the piss out of a small group on here who purport never to be shocked by anything that happens in this world because they’d seen it coming. Typically, Gluey et al only put in an appearance after an event, which caught me for one on the hop, and when they do, all that happens is they prove they have nothing worthwhile to say on the matter.

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The incoherence continues to amuse when their go-to twittersphere is caught on the hop. In Glueyworld we are apparently completely exasperated that a private army failed to depose WEF boy Putin.

The only thing being bandied about yesterday was that the CIA gave Prizoghin $6.2 b to start this escapade. This seems to have morphed into it being shared with the Russian army now as events moved on but I guess it will take a while for those ahead of the game to catch up!

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

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https://twitter.com/kimpkag4eva/stat...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

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https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...does-not-mean/

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Trouble with Russia its still stuck in 1917 with Lenin’s Bolsheviks ideals and protect the Motherland bullshit .

They suppress their people, restrict the outside world from their gaze , ensure they don't educate themselves fully to the global world resulting in a mass of people unable to think for themselves , or seek a democratic modern society with inclusivity.

Ironically the wealthy Russians do enjoy those global freedoms of knowledge and wealth.

Such hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The left love state covert terrorism. Just look at East Germany, South Aftica , Ireland, Cuba, Russia. Iran, Syria , North Korea, El Salvador , Venezuela, Angola the list is endless

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You do talk some total shite, don't you?

Putin's Russian nationalism has nothing to do with Bolshevism. What do you think happened in 1917 or the years after until Stalin grabbed power? And I can't imagine the people of Leningrad or Moscow in 1945 putting up with the mafia, the neo-Nazis with fascist emblems, or the oligarchs who have all had free reign in capitalist Russia since the wall came down.

Your random and skewed list of 'covert state terrorism' includes Ireland where the state using terror was the British state. Well done!

Still, I'm sure Gluey will appreciate your attempt at support for his late re-imagining of this thread. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Strange how different people can look at the same thing and some see something that just isn’t there. Clearly, all that’s happening in this thread is that a few people are taking the piss out of a small group on here who purport never to be shocked by anything that happens in this world because they’d seen it coming. Typically, Gluey et al only put in an appearance after an event, which caught me for one on the hop, and when they do, all that happens is they prove they have nothing worthwhile to say on the matter.

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All that plus a bit of invention and wishful thinking. I'm still trying to work out which posters have been 'celebrating' Prighozin.

Please accept my humble apologies for going out yesterday without first gaining permission from the CCMB mafia, even though my last two posts were about Fledimir Lukashenko and Topple to show how serious I thought the whole Russia thing was!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Please accept my humble apologies for going out yesterday without first gaining permission from the CCMB mafia, even though my last two posts were about Fledimir Lukashenko and Topple to show how serious I thought the whole Russia thing was!

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Where did you go?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

You do talk some total shite, don't you?

Putin's Russian nationalism has nothing to do with Bolshevism. What do you think happened in 1917 or the years after until Stalin grabbed power? And I can't imagine the people of Leningrad or Moscow in 1945 putting up with the mafia, the neo-Nazis with fascist emblems, or the oligarchs who have all had free reign in capitalist Russia since the wall came down.

Your random and skewed list of 'covert state terrorism' includes Ireland where the state using terror was the British state. Well done!

Still, I'm sure Gluey will appreciate your attempt at support for his late re-imagining of this thread. :thumbup:

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Socialism has funded many terrorists and dictatorships , its built on its own weaknesses and failed states throughout history, and yes they can be brutal in pushing its agenda .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Socialism has funded many terrorists and dictatorships , its built on its own weaknesses and failed states throughout history, and yes they can be brutal in pushing its agenda .

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I know you struggle with the meaning of words, but this is pure drivel.

Warmongers gonna Warmonger, so little was mentioned about Johnson obeying the USA and sabotaging a peace deal, Biden and NATO continue to put billions of arms into the war effort refusing to even consider a peace deal.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RFK JR: Ukraine Is Being Sacrificed in a Proxy War Between the US and Russia<br><br>“We could have solved that war. We could have averted it,” attested <a href="https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RobertKenned yJr</a>.<br><br>“The Russians had signed a peace agreement with Zelensky in April of 2022, and the White House actually deployed… <a href="https://t.co/QM7ZgS7au5">pic.twitter.com/QM7ZgS7au5</a></p>&mdash; The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) <a href="https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1673710581977686016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Warmongers gonna Warmonger, so little was mentioned about Johnson obeying the USA and sabotaging a peace deal, Biden and NATO continue to put billions of arms into the war effort refusing to even consider a peace deal.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RFK JR: Ukraine Is Being Sacrificed in a Proxy War Between the US and Russia<br><br>“We could have solved that war. We could have averted it,” attested <a href="https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RobertKenned yJr</a>.<br><br>“The Russians had signed a peace agreement with Zelensky in April of 2022, and the White House actually deployed… <a href="https://t.co/QM7ZgS7au5">pic.twitter.com/QM7ZgS7au5</a></p>— The Vigilant Fox �� (@VigilantFox) <a href="https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1673710581977686016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Yes, the US is the strongest party in the 'Five eyes' alliance and the UK often (too often!) follows the lead of the US. However, it's difficult imaging a peace deal right now that would not mean Russia still occupying part of Ukraine that it has invaded, something the Ukranians would not be happy with, having had Russia take two bites out of their sovereign territory in the last decade. Why not concentrate on Russia being the aggressor, the invader of the sovereign territory of another country and the countless deaths they have caused as well as the sheer destruction of cities and infrastructure? What peace deal would Putin accept that doesn't involve him gaining territory that Russia has no business occupying in the first place?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Yes, the US is the strongest party in the 'Five eyes' alliance and the UK often (too often!) follows the lead of the US. However, it's difficult imaging a peace deal right now that would not mean Russia still occupying part of Ukraine that it has invaded, something the Ukranians would not be happy with, having had Russia take two bites out of their sovereign territory in the last decade. Why not concentrate on Russia being the aggressor, the invader of the sovereign territory of another country and the countless deaths they have caused as well as the sheer destruction of cities and infrastructure? What peace deal would Putin accept that doesn't involve him gaining territory that Russia has no business occupying in the first place?

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T.B.G, that Russia is the aggressor here and should pack up and piss off isn’t for debate.
Russia isn’t going to do that, Putin in addition to the mass killing of Ukrainians has also presided over the loss of 1,000’s of Russians, he just isn’t going to say Oh well lets all go home folks.

His gangsters took Crimea in advance of Obama’s gangsters taking it, he got in 1st.

There cannot be any outcome to this other than through dialogue, we currently have British and American missiles in the hands of the American installed puppet, we’ve seen attacks by both sides to the key infrastructure of the other side, we have seemingly a lunatic on one side wanting to get back to the Russia of the cold war, and a senile pervert on the other side who many believe is being handled by the Obama deep state crew and wouldn’t know if he’s had a shit or not, We sort of through the events at the time, have a reverse of the Kennedy Khrushchev scenario, with Russian nukes in Cuba on the door step of America, they talked and eventually it was resolved, talking is needed to end this, Russia isn’t going to cede land taken at this time, maybe, unless America moves east, for the record I’m on the side of the non-aggressor but taking sides from my sofa in Cardiff is as much use as a chocolate teapot. I don’t think it’s conspiracy anymore but there was a peace deal in place, but the warmongers appear to have nuked it!!! Bullies taking land didn’t start in UKRAINE it’s not nice, but it happens, IMO for the Russians to give it back they will need a concession from their opponent’s and concerns would be that the previous Minsk agreements deal was broken by the west, and also admitted that it was just a cover to bargain for time.

I don’t think we are a million ,miles away in who’s the aggressor and who’s reacting to the aggression I just don’t think that giving more weapons is the way forward and that Ukraine unfortunately is going to lose more territory, we do not know if Putin’s eventual successor is going to be less of a 2hat or more hard-line, I do listen to, and like the podcasts involving Colonel McGregor a veteran tank commander, he’s of the opinion that much of the Russian hard liners are pissed off with Putin as he hasn’t just gone in and obliterated Kiev from the get go.

At what point, (and considering that this is a proxy war, with Zelensky having little or no say regarding the outcome)
do the west and NATO say this has to end with a settlement ? or do we stay fully principled hoping that neither side are stupid enough to think this can be resolved say using tactical (sick) nuclear weapons.

This is only a discussion on a football MB, but what would be your line in the sand? How far would you be prepared for it to go ?.

Mine is clear, no more loss of life, a deal in that America makes a concession which means them getting out of UKRAINE however, Russia to withdraw back to their border 1st and that talks of returning Crimea to be on the table with a set period of time a bit like the Hong Kong deal. Pie in the sky but something has to happen as it cannot continue indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

T.B.G, that Russia is the aggressor here and should pack up and piss off isn’t for debate.
Russia isn’t going to do that, Putin in addition to the mass killing of Ukrainians has also presided over the loss of 1,000’s of Russians, he just isn’t going to say Oh well lets all go home folks.

His gangsters took Crimea in advance of Obama’s gangsters taking it, he got in 1st.

There cannot be any outcome to this other than through dialogue, we currently have British and American missiles in the hands of the American installed puppet, we’ve seen attacks by both sides to the key infrastructure of the other side, we have seemingly a lunatic on one side wanting to get back to the Russia of the cold war, and a senile pervert on the other side who many believe is being handled by the Obama deep state crew and wouldn’t know if he’s had a shit or not, We sort of through the events at the time, have a reverse of the Kennedy Khrushchev scenario, with Russian nukes in Cuba on the door step of America, they talked and eventually it was resolved, talking is needed to end this, Russia isn’t going to cede land taken at this time, maybe, unless America moves east, for the record I’m on the side of the non-aggressor but taking sides from my sofa in Cardiff is as much use as a chocolate teapot. I don’t think it’s conspiracy anymore but there was a peace deal in place, but the warmongers appear to have nuked it!!! Bullies taking land didn’t start in UKRAINE it’s not nice, but it happens, IMO for the Russians to give it back they will need a concession from their opponent’s and concerns would be that the previous Minsk agreements deal was broken by the west, and also admitted that it was just a cover to bargain for time.

I don’t think we are a million ,miles away in who’s the aggressor and who’s reacting to the aggression I just don’t think that giving more weapons is the way forward and that Ukraine unfortunately is going to lose more territory, we do not know if Putin’s eventual successor is going to be less of a 2hat or more hard-line, I do listen to, and like the podcasts involving Colonel McGregor a veteran tank commander, he’s of the opinion that much of the Russian hard liners are pissed off with Putin as he hasn’t just gone in and obliterated Kiev from the get go.

At what point, (and considering that this is a proxy war, with Zelensky having little or no say regarding the outcome)
do the west and NATO say this has to end with a settlement ? or do we stay fully principled hoping that neither side are stupid enough to think this can be resolved say using tactical (sick) nuclear weapons.

This is only a discussion on a football MB, but what would be your line in the sand? How far would you be prepared for it to go ?.

Mine is clear, no more loss of life, a deal in that America makes a concession which means them getting out of UKRAINE however, Russia to withdraw back to their border 1st and that talks of returning Crimea to be on the table with a set period of time a bit like the Hong Kong deal. Pie in the sky but something has to happen as it cannot continue indefinitely.

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The Ukrainian propaganda machine are also very clever in hiding how many of its servicemen are being injured or killed in the conflict.The actual figures are frightening. This conflict has gone on far to long.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

The Ukrainian propaganda machine are also very clever in hiding how many of its servicemen are being injured or killed in the conflict.The actual figures are frightening. This conflict has gone on far to long.

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I forgot how impervious you were to the Ukrainian propaganda machine. What are the actual frightening casualty figures out of interest?

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

T.B.G, that Russia is the aggressor here and should pack up and piss off isn’t for debate.
Russia isn’t going to do that, Putin in addition to the mass killing of Ukrainians has also presided over the loss of 1,000’s of Russians, he just isn’t going to say Oh well lets all go home folks.

His gangsters took Crimea in advance of Obama’s gangsters taking it, he got in 1st.

There cannot be any outcome to this other than through dialogue, we currently have British and American missiles in the hands of the American installed puppet, we’ve seen attacks by both sides to the key infrastructure of the other side, we have seemingly a lunatic on one side wanting to get back to the Russia of the cold war, and a senile pervert on the other side who many believe is being handled by the Obama deep state crew and wouldn’t know if he’s had a shit or not, We sort of through the events at the time, have a reverse of the Kennedy Khrushchev scenario, with Russian nukes in Cuba on the door step of America, they talked and eventually it was resolved, talking is needed to end this, Russia isn’t going to cede land taken at this time, maybe, unless America moves east, for the record I’m on the side of the non-aggressor but taking sides from my sofa in Cardiff is as much use as a chocolate teapot. I don’t think it’s conspiracy anymore but there was a peace deal in place, but the warmongers appear to have nuked it!!! Bullies taking land didn’t start in UKRAINE it’s not nice, but it happens, IMO for the Russians to give it back they will need a concession from their opponent’s and concerns would be that the previous Minsk agreements deal was broken by the west, and also admitted that it was just a cover to bargain for time.

I don’t think we are a million ,miles away in who’s the aggressor and who’s reacting to the aggression I just don’t think that giving more weapons is the way forward and that Ukraine unfortunately is going to lose more territory, we do not know if Putin’s eventual successor is going to be less of a 2hat or more hard-line, I do listen to, and like the podcasts involving Colonel McGregor a veteran tank commander, he’s of the opinion that much of the Russian hard liners are pissed off with Putin as he hasn’t just gone in and obliterated Kiev from the get go.

At what point, (and considering that this is a proxy war, with Zelensky having little or no say regarding the outcome)
do the west and NATO say this has to end with a settlement ? or do we stay fully principled hoping that neither side are stupid enough to think this can be resolved say using tactical (sick) nuclear weapons.

This is only a discussion on a football MB, but what would be your line in the sand? How far would you be prepared for it to go ?.

Mine is clear, no more loss of life, a deal in that America makes a concession which means them getting out of UKRAINE however, Russia to withdraw back to their border 1st and that talks of returning Crimea to be on the table with a set period of time a bit like the Hong Kong deal. Pie in the sky but something has to happen as it cannot continue indefinitely.

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Your line in the sand is all well and good but it will have no effect on Putin whatsover. Nor does any dialogue.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

The Ukrainian propaganda machine are also very clever in hiding how many of its servicemen are being injured or killed in the conflict.The actual figures are frightening. This conflict has gone on far to long.

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Tell that to Putin and his henchmen.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I forgot how impervious you were to the Ukrainian propaganda machine. What are the actual frightening casualty figures out of interest?

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As it’s not on the BBC you wouldn’t believe them anyway, so I’d prefer not to waste time engaging with you ( count yourself lucky that I’ve bothered to reply to you on this occasion as well )

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

As it’s not on the BBC you wouldn’t believe them anyway, so I’d prefer not to waste time engaging with you ( count yourself lucky that I’ve bothered to reply to you on this occasion as well )

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Of course there's an element of propoganda in order to keep up spirits whena bloody war is causing horrendous casualties. So what?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Of course there's an element of propoganda in order to keep up spirits whena bloody war is causing horrendous casualties. So what?

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Exactly , so what.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

As it’s not on the BBC you wouldn’t believe them anyway, so I’d prefer not to waste time engaging with you ( count yourself lucky that I’ve bothered to reply to you on this occasion as well )

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I think the likelihood is that Ukrainian losses in defence of their homeland are really bad. However, you state you know the actual figures. Now we know from previous posts that that is absolute bullshit but if you want to project onto me because you have made yourself look really stupid again I guess that is your right!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I think the likelihood is that Ukrainian losses in defence of their homeland are really bad. However, you state you know the actual figures. Now we know from previous posts that that is absolute bullshit but if you want to project onto me because you have made yourself look really stupid again I guess that is your right!

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Cyril knows best as always . Now what have you been told about trolling …. Be a good boy

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Cyril knows best as always .

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Gosh, doubly lucky you replied, I am truly blessed. Now about those actual figures that you can't find on the BBC. Put up or shut up would be my advice!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Gosh, doubly lucky you replied, I am truly blessed. Now about those actual figures that you can't find on the BBC. Put up or shut up would be my advice!

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