Drakeford more unpopular than popular

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...s-how-27320155

Comes as no surprise, but nowhere near as unpopular as Andrew Davies and Rishi Sunak. I guess the poll is in keeping with Wales as a mainly Labour country but also demonstrates that, even if Labour's support were to dive, the Tories wouldn't be the ones benefitting.

Interesting little snippet at the bottom as well, where immigration is far more of an issue to old Tory voters than the rest of the population.

These kind of things are always really interesting to see. I often find the Welsh ones that ask people who runs certain services in Wales quite illuminating.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...s-how-27320155

Comes as no surprise, but nowhere near as unpopular as Andrew Davies and Rishi Sunak. I guess the poll is in keeping with Wales as a mainly Labour country but also demonstrates that, even if Labour's support were to dive, the Tories wouldn't be the ones benefitting.

Interesting little snippet at the bottom as well, where immigration is far more of an issue to old Tory voters than the rest of the population.

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I wish he would retire

I like Carwyn Jones

Drakeford is like a deputy head teacher from Lampeter

I would vote for SLUDGE if he stood .

I couldn't possibly comment......

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I wish he would retire

I like Carwyn Jones

Drakeford is like a deputy head teacher from Lampeter

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Youve got your tongue so far up his @rse you can probably see what he had for breakfast. Slurp slurp red rosette boy - go worship your leader blah blah

That's the sort of thing you usually accuse others of doing - so for a change - you can taste some of your own rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Youve got your tongue so far up his @rse you can probably see what he had for breakfast. Slurp slurp red rosette boy - go worship your leader blah blah

That's the sort of thing you usually accuse others of doing - so for a change - you can taste some of your own rhetoric.

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I absolutely know you are a raving tory creep spoiling the landscape of Wales with your ways of a traitor by voting for them

And you know it too

Anything you can throw about is like trying to kill an elephant with a pea shooter

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

I couldn't possibly comment......

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Probably not a good idea for a tory living in tax exile in France to comment on the person we welsh have elected as you say

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I absolutely know you are a raving tory creep spoiling the landscape of Wales with your ways of a traitor by voting for them

And you know it too

Anything you can throw about is like trying to kill an elephant with a pea shooter

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People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?

My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.

Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc, have an interest in local charities, take kids on day trips etc.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?

My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.

Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc

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I don't really care

My views are I don't like the Tories and if I am in the company of someone who is a tory I don't have much to do with them

Bloke over the road was out on the street clapping for the nurses during the covid crisis , year before sticking up vote conservative Union jack nonsense in his window

It's his right to vote for the clowns , if it benefits him ......which is what you seemed to be suggesting tories do ......and i agree .....but its my right to chose to vote against them ......which sometimes isn't labour

As for Tories fund raising for the homeless ...Good god their housing policies since Thatcher got in are a big part of the reason why single people in particular struggle to find decent housing and get support if they have health problems

Voting tory abd therfore supporting their housing policy and then raising money for the homeless ?

It's like stealing 10 grand from someone then feeling guilty for what you have done and sending them a food parcel ......but only a small one

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I don't really care

My views are I don't like the Tories and if I am in the company of someone who is a tory I don't have much to do with them

Bloke over the road was out on the street clapping for the nurses during the covid crisis , year before sticking up vote conservative Union jack nonsense in his window

It's his right to vote for the clowns , if it benefits him ......which is what you seemed to be suggesting tories do ......and i agree .....but its my right to chose to vote against them ......which sometimes isn't labour

As for Tories fund raising for the homeless ...Good god their housing policies since Thatcher got in are a big part of the reason why single people in particular struggle to find decent housing and get support if they have health problems

Voting tory abd therfore supporting their housing policy and then raising money for the homeless ?

It's like stealing 10 grand from someone then feeling guilty for what you have done and sending them a food parcel ......but only a small one

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My wife was not old enough to vote when Thatcher was in power and unlike some she doesn’t hold deep seated grudges.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

My wife was not old enough to vote when Thatcher was in power and unlike some she doesn’t hold deep seated grudges.

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Nor was I initially

But her housing policies were shocking and marginalised single homeless people

Now if I was at a village summer fete or carnival and someone was rattling a collection tin for shelter I would stick a tenner in but if over a cup of tea later they started going on about voting tory I would feel well within my rights ......as you say .....to point out their vote for the consevatives is more likely to cause homelessness than prevent it

That's my perogative

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Nor was I initially

But her housing policies were shocking and marginalised single homeless people

Now if I was at a village summer fete or carnival and someone was rattling a collection tin for shelter I would stick a tenner in but if over a cup of tea later they started going on about voting tory I would feel well within my rights ......as you say .....to point out their vote for the consevatives is more likely to cause homelessness than prevent it

That's my perogative

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I think high rate tax payers pay enough towards the issues you have mentioned, how it’s distributed is generally a Labour decision in Wales

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think high rate tax payers pay enough towards the issues you have mentioned, how it’s distributed is generally a Labour decision in Wales

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Do you ?

OK

Well that's the view of a Conservative or a person sympathetic to their policies

I see no point in arguing the toss with you , the Tories in Wales are seen by the majority as the enemy

And I agree even though I am not a left wing Marxist

I am off out for a kebab

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?

My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.

Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc, have an interest in local charities, take kids on day trips etc.

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Yeah, but most of them don’t.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Do you ?

OK

Well that's the view of a Conservative or a person sympathetic to their policies

I see no point in arguing the toss with you , the Tories in Wales are seen by the majority as the enemy

And I agree even though I am not a left wing Marxist

I am off out for a kebab

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Eat healthy and exercise is the way forward and positive for your well-being, spa.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Yeah, but most of them don’t.

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How do you know that in comparison to voters of other parties?

That being said as long as we do.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

How do you know that in comparison to voters of other parties?

That being said as long as we do.

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I was joking.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I was joking.

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Looking at ONS the older generation tend to give more to charity etc as they generally have more disposable income

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Looking at ONS the older generation tend to give more to charity etc as they generally have more disposable income

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It's guilt

They know what's coming

Hell

Especially the tory voters

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It's guilt

They know what's coming

Hell

Especially the tory voters

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You have so much hate in you - there is no remedy - other than to respond in equal measure Paul. Blah Blah Labour Boy, Labour filth, Socialist (not that you know what one is) "scum" - channelling Angie Raynor there.

I'm trying to think what else you have called me and others on here - but just been called by the wife to go can get the kids.
Enjoy the rest of your today ...what's there to do over there in the vale on a Sunday ?

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Originally Posted by pipster

You have so much hate in you - there is no remedy - other than to respond in equal measure Paul. Blah Blah Labour Boy, Labour filth, Socialist (not that you know what one is) "scum" - channelling Angie Raynor there.

I'm trying to think what else you have called me and others on here - but just been called by the wife to go can get the kids.
Enjoy the rest of your today ...what's there to do over there in the vale on a Sunday ?

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I was right you are a stalker

Does your wife know you are trying to hook up with other men ?

Pop over , I will hold you hand and we can go skipping off into the sunset

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I was right you are a stalker

Does your wife know you are trying to hook up with other men ?

Pop over , I will hold you hand and we can go skipping off into the sunset

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Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Still got that Huw Edwards poster on your bedroom wall?

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Originally Posted by pipster

Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Still got that Huw Edwards poster on your bedroom wall?

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Yes I have been cracking one out all afternoon actually

Maybe he looks like you

We should meet up

Everyone knows there isnt a woman on earth that would go anywhere near. I think you'd even struggle on the gay scene, I guess there is always Vale trans scene for you to infect

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Originally Posted by pipster

Everyone knows there isnt a woman on earth that would go anywhere near. I think you'd even struggle on the gay scene, I guess there is always Vale trans scene for you to infect

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When you "jumped ship off here a while back as it was being hijacked by certain people who unless they were agreed with went all in and it became a joke" and before "for a laugh you jumped ship to the 'other place' that was alright for a while unless you question the leader or said anything about Sam and then you'd get banned (like you did)"

was Sludge one of the hijackers because you seem to have the scent of his blood in your nostrils?

Perhaps you could let us know who you were previously were then we could form a judgement!

Perhaps - you could just not bother. All I am doing with Sludge is responding with the same level vitriol that he throws out at anyone who doesnt have the same political view point. Enjoy your evening.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Perhaps - you could just not bother. All I am doing with Sludge is responding with the same level vitriol that he throws out at anyone who doesnt have the same political view point. Enjoy your evening.

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I think this is called ......nightmares in a damaged brain

A descent into Madness

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Originally Posted by pipster

Perhaps - you could just not bother. All I am doing with Sludge is responding with the same level vitriol that he throws out at anyone who doesnt have the same political view point. Enjoy your evening.

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Perhaps not bother what, you seem to know his name, where some of his mates drink. The least you could do is tell him what his tormentor was called last time you posted here.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

When you "jumped ship off here a while back as it was being hijacked by certain people who unless they were agreed with went all in and it became a joke" and before "for a laugh you jumped ship to the 'other place' that was alright for a while unless you question the leader or said anything about Sam and then you'd get banned (like you did)"

was Sludge one of the hijackers because you seem to have the scent of his blood in your nostrils?

Perhaps you could let us know who you were previously were then we could form a judgement!

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The scent of a woman

But I am a bloke

Still it's 2023 and I am open minded

Unless he's a tory ?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Perhaps not bother what, you seem to know his name, where some of his mates drink. The least you could do is tell him what his tormentor was called last time you posted here.

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The only torment here is in his brain

There is no torment here - just someone who think's you're an idiot. It would be laughable if it wasnt for the hate coming out of your head. So you're getting some back.

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Originally Posted by pipster

There is no torment here - just someone who think's you're an idiot. It would be laughable if it wasnt for the hate coming out of your head. So you're getting some back.

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I am afraid you are going to have to do a lot better than this

I think you might be impotent

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Originally Posted by pipster

There is no torment here - just someone who think's you're an idiot. It would be laughable if it wasnt for the hate coming out of your head. So you're getting some back.

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Boring.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I wish he would retire

I like Carwyn Jones

Drakeford is like a deputy head teacher from Lampeter

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He's a very intelligent man. But he's no leader.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

He's a very intelligent man. But he's no leader.

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He's old school

I thought that eluned Morgan would be a good replacement but she's not up to it

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Boring.

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Boring - so you find the time to read the post, login and consciously decide to make a comment.
I dont know about you - but things I see as boring - I just just ignore.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's old school

I thought that eluned Morgan would be a good replacement but she's not up to it

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Feck me - Eluned Morgan - she has never been up to it - on any level. More driving points than Lewis Hamilton. She holds the title of being the first ever Senedd Minister to be formally reprimanded in the 'Welsh Parliament' - but a good socialist girl at heart though, in your worl though - Thatcher's fault for introducing speed restrictions probably