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Will leave the Cabinet at the next reshuffle and will not stand at the next election. Quite surprising news that, I would have thought he was a Tory who could be popular among the electorate, not just party members like most of the other leadership candidates are.
I would have thought Head of Nato or something like that. A bit like the Labour defence secretary, forget his first name something Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Foiled by the US in his pitch to become next head of NATO and facing the backlash of telling the Ukrainians they should show some gratitude for the shopping list of armaments that have been delivered…. Then reading the tea leaves on the electoral prospects of his party…. He’s off to spend more time with his raging ambitions.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He’s a loss for Sunak that’s for sure. One of the few ministers that has generally done well.
I wonder if this is his time to distance himself from the cabinet ahead of an election disaster with a view to come back and lead the party in the future?
Just another useless Tory tw@t.
Part of the worst govt in history. Just running away and embarrassed.
Not sure about in History, but within my lifetime by a clear distance, from day one of Johnson and then his successors it's been a despicable effort. We've had some poor efforts, but this mob are incomparable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Did you not live through the Blair / Brown years ? or the John Major Govt ? or even the Winter of discontent year - with unions running the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I'd take a look at those years before judging
Oh he's off againQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
But he's NOT a raving tory
Honestly
Keep em coming
Cameron , May , Johnson , The Two ClownsQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
The tory boys will always say what about .......etc etc
The key here is for the next government to put PR in place and then sharpen itself up
If it does the Tories will be on the fringes forever which will be great for the majority of this country that is anti Conservative
I would put something in starmers tea and get him to agree to step down as soon as possible to seal the deal 🤝
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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You are obsessed with PR - yet we had the vote on you lost - grow some and get on with your next w ank.
I see that Starma has now called in for assistance from the Epstein pedo associate Peter Mandelson...if Mandy is the answer - Starma is asking the wrong question.
ps - you cant just introduce PR - it has to be done through a referendum - like it was last time (and PR lost)
PR will come in , the alternative vote was a fudge deal you tory boys offered to clegg and his weak wristed crew , the labour party knew thatQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Patience is a virtue
Mandelson a paedophile?
Good gosh phone the police
Yes I did, the day I started my apprenticeship, the unions were on a 3 day week and I stand by my opinion that this government is by a distance the most disgraceful that I have lived through.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
The Blair years apart from his stupid and reckless spending towards the end .....which the Tories have done , many times in their history ......and the insane invasion of Iraq were times of stability and prosperity for manyQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I was glad when he went and it should have been earlier
Lots of tory voters did fine under Blair which makes it all the more amusing to hear them try and remind everyone how bad a prime minister he was
For me Blair brought shape and discipline to the Labour Party but failed to attack tory housing policy and let a lot of working class people down
I think by the time brown took over labour was finished really as a political party , I don't think it's been up to much since and the sooner it merges with the rest of the opposition the better
Yes and this lot are far worse than any of them, they’re the most corrupt, inept and accident prone Government of my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
But Blair isnt a Socialist Sludge - he was Tory light - and you've just said he bought shape and discipline to your Labour party. Private school educated as well...tut tut tut ... have you lost your political compass again ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
If only Corbyn could make a come back - but you have called him a cock... there are very few places left for you.. Communist party maybe ?
It's not my labour party , I have never been a memberQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
I just vote for them rather than for the filth
And Blair certainly wasn't a socialist
And nor am I
You are a tory though and for that you will always be derided by the wise and the meek
They certainly areQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But the tory faithful won't budge
Inherently selfish
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Originally Posted by pipster
Must be guilt for voting in a party that due to complete idiocy is on PM number 3.
Shame and embarrassment to everyone who voted in this useless government.
I wouldn’t be too critical of people who voted for them in 2019, but I couldn’t be as sympathetic if they then voted the same way in 2024 (presume it will be then).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
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Originally Posted by Heathblue
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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You aren't a socialist -so what are you then ? (apart from the obvious)Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I am your nemesisQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocAU7nW3D8Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Alan Ford is a genuisQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I would feck with him
https://youtu.be/WEiNrLESexg
Nutters ! ......from Parkhurst
Is this the bloke that does Tipping Point?
Love the love in , even the Corbyn fans are holding their noses , is he locked in a cellar with Ange ?? Where's the Abbott ??
Hate to tell you if you vote for the current Labour Party you are just voting for a Tory government with a different coat they want power so much they are rolling back on most things and sounding Tory like , because of the inept nature of Labours policies since Blair and its self harm attack on his government and the likes of David Miliband , they now have decided they like Blairism as it might give them a chance , yes the current goverment is shite but don't fool yourself if you think this opposition
is going to transform your lives into some form of socialist utopia , your not reading back your old anti Blair and pro Corbyn messages , new Labour cant get rid of its elite London smell ( ask Andy Burnham after a pint or two )..
Sir Keir ruling out child benefit for families with more than 2 kids - even though he was elected as Labour leader on that pledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
"A Labour government will always want to invest in its public services. The way to invest in our public services is to grow our economy.” - Straight of Thatcher's handbook of economic quotes.
Even Mick got in on the act- Keir Starmer has 'got to show he's on the side of working people and I don't think we're seeing that'
He also chimed in with "many people can't spot the difference" between Labour and the Conservative's at the moment.
Labour is supposed to be the socialist party - there's not much of that on display
Is there a promise/pledge that Starmer hasn’t broken?
Genuine question - I can’t think of one (from more than 6 months ago).
Breaking promises seems to be the new 10 Pledges.
I know what he (and his supporters) claim is the reason for all this U turning, but to me it shouts lack of ambition, lack of vision, smallness, and chronic dishonesty.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
We all knew it though. Because in the last year a lot of populist stuff has been touted about 'destroyed economies', 'Tory mortgage crisis', 'cost of living catastrophe's', Tory asylum choas' etc. All of this shit is easy to say but hard to solve and the solutions he proposed wouldn't have solved anything, hence having got the big bounce in the polls by saying this stuff he rows back.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
There will be no noticeable difference between the likely future Labour govt and this current one. The difference will come in the fact that Labour will hopefully have more favourable political winds blowing, as that would be in all our favours. Most governments in power during covid, be they left or right has been voted out or is in the process of it happening.