To Barnsley as expected, for an undisclosed fee https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...joins-barnsley
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To Barnsley as expected, for an undisclosed fee https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...joins-barnsley
good luck watters
Neither Watters, the club nor the fans can hold their head up.
Poor from all sides.
A move was best for all. Move on and forget about this one
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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
3 year deal with the option of one more year. Great move.
They've paid us money!!! Brilliant.
rumoured to be £250k rising to £500k with appearances/ goals etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
we paid £1m for him so nice to get some of it back
We didn’t pay £1m for him , thankfullyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
What did the fans do wrong??Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Never heard any dissenting voices in the stadium when he played which wasn't often - frustration generally with our lack creativity but not directed at watters specifically
Heard rumours he was off to Saudi Arabia for £300m.
Remember the early stages of last season when some fans on here were continually claiming that Watters' movement off the ball was good? Very funny. He was hopelessly out of his depth at this level. Looked like a rabbit in the headlights.
Watters started just five game in five months at Barnsley last season. Therefore, it's a surprise they've come back in for him. Getting him off the books is a triumph for City. If the club has managed to get any sort of a fee for him they've done very well.
He moved like a broom handle. Although may i be the first to say (after he has scored three in five during December) that we never played to his strengths, didn't give him a chance, he didn't get enough service, was left isolated, and not even Messi could've scored in 'that' team. Three pager-Haven't we seen enough :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Had his chance. Did nothing with it. Good riddance.
I don't recall the fans giving him a hard time.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I think it's right that people wanted to give a young player trying to make a big step up every chance to prove himself at this level. I would prefer that to the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
he had enough chances though and was t able to shine, he looked like he was really feeling the pressure at times. hope he does well for Barnsley
Four goals in five games started for Barnsley is pretty decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Utter rubbish as usual. Typical of the way he was treated by some so called ‘fans’ down here. He was popular up there last season and scored some important goals. He didn’t play more because he picked up a knock but was also sent off, so missed some games. He actually played 19 times (incl subs),scored 4 goals and was there four months. Still only 24 as well, so he has a chance. Didn't work out here but wasn't given much of a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I dont think his movement was that bad, it was just when he actually received the ball he looked like his legs were all discombobulated.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Good luck to him, hopefully he can get scoring goals.
His movement was poor. He was always stood on his heels. When the ball went to the wingers (which was the whole tactic under Morison), he was stationary in the box when he should have been breaking his neck to get to the front post for the cut back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Watters isn’t good enough. That isn’t his fault. Good luck to him.
Do you really think he would have been a regular starter there?I don'tQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Not quite. 1 goal in 5 starts, 3 as substitute. Thanks to a brace coming on against MK Dons, he had a better goals per minute rate than any of their other strikers. He still failed to score in 16 appearances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
surely those are the kind of things that can easily be addressed with good coaching? like it's difficult to change how fast you are very much for example, but surely anyone can be coached to run to the front post when the ball is out wide?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
he'd not long come from non league and I've heard it said elsewhere that our coaching wasn't upto much.
Getting ~£250k upfront is akin to the Zohore to West Brom fee , a minor miracle.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Best for all parties, he was finished here with the Morison treatment, good luck Watters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Didn't he make a laughing-type tweet or something?
I do. Twitter was and still is rife with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
The fans in the stadium weren’t the best with him either but he had himself to blame by the end.
There was one game where he tried to dink it over the keeper, if that went in he might have had the monkey off his back for a bit.
Will be interesting to see how it goes for him
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Watters' apparent "movement off the ball" was rather like "Madine's assist", both of which were entirely fabricated by fans desperate to see something good in sub standard players, at this level.
That said, I do wish him all the best, and well done to the club for getting a fee. That is truly amazing business if true. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by TWGL1
He scored one goal in five starts and promptly got himself sent off in the game he did score in. He was subbed in all of his other four starts, on 64 mins, 58 mins, 64 mins and 65 mins. Sounds familiar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Since he left Crawley he's played 52 league games and played the full 90 minutes on 2 occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Well here's a turn-up for the books. I compliment the club on getting a fee for Watters, which I think is an incredible piece of business, but you declare I'm talking rubbish. Have you had a bump on the napper recently?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Anyway, let's examine your claims: you stated Watters was at Barnsley for only four months last season as opposed to five. In fact, he signed for the Tykes on 05/01/23 and was on the bench for their play-off final on 29/05/23, so that's five months as near as dammit.
You say he didn't play more because 'he picked up a knock', but you don't say when that allegedly happened. That's no surprise considering Watters was either in Barnsley's starting line-up or on their bench (and used as a sub on every occasion apart from one play-off game in May) for every Football League game the Tykes played following his arrival in January, the exceptions being the three matches in February he missed when he was suspended as a result of his sending-off.
You claim he played 19 times for Barnsley including sub appearances. In fact, it was 21 times - 5 starts and 16 sub appearances.
You've stated Watters was very popular at Oakwell. I'll have to bow to your greater knowledge on that one as I know you have insider contacts all over Yorkshire (see the Madine loan fee affair for further info).
You said Watters wasn't given much of a chance here. On the contrary, he actually started more games for Cardiff City last season (8) than he did for Barnsley (5). He had more than enough chances in a Bluebirds shirt. 22 of them to be precise. But he wasn't up to the levels required for Championship football, which is why he's back in League One.
I must say, it's a bit curious that you've chosen to leap to the defence of a player that the club has binned after concluding he's not good enough. Is this a thinly-veiled criticism of CCFC?
I’d say he was treated worse by one of his managers at Cardiff in particular than he was by the fans. Based on what we saw of him here, it’s remarkable that a club which finished only six places below us in the league structure have paid any fee for him when he’s in the last year of his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Moments after birth, I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Maybe but to a degree, you’ve got to understand where to go and why you’re making the run. Watters has been playing pro football since 2020 and he’s miles out of his depth at Championship level. I’m surprised Barnsley have signed him. He scored 4 in 19 in a really good League 1 side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Our coaching was poor last season, and has been for a while. Who was the last player that’s come on leaps and bounds under us? The Jacks get players and improve them whereas seemingly every player we get stays the same. Hopefully Bulut and the coaches will improve that.
Barnsley win 7-0 and the only thing he picks up was a yellow card, no goal or assist.
I’ve read two match reports and he didn’t even get a mention.
Subbed in the 61st minute. I see Ojo picked up a yellow card too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Dont think anyone should be too critical of him just yet. That was his first competitive game/start for quite a while and Barnsley were already 5-0 up when he went off.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Not critical just surprised (or not surprised maybe)Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Just looked to see how Watters was doing, given that Barnsley were in the play offs.
Wasn’t in the squad.
Went on the forum quickly and searched Watters and not really a positive thing said about him.
Have to hold my hands up and admit, I was totally wrong. Thought he didn’t have the right service. It seems he’s just shit.
We’re all wrong sometimes.
You weren't wrong, you just saw it differently and had an opinion, nothing wrong with that :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile