Delia Smith in a line to congratulate all the players as they receive their medals ... then she gives captain Grant Hanley a big kiss - on the lips - no tongue.
Wonder what the media and woke brigade would make of it.
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Delia Smith in a line to congratulate all the players as they receive their medals ... then she gives captain Grant Hanley a big kiss - on the lips - no tongue.
Wonder what the media and woke brigade would make of it.
How would you feel if a total stranger kissed your wife like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Not sure about the cup but I fancy them for promotion, they've looked really good whenever I've seen them.
Oddly specific example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Think he's on about the Spanish FA bloke but at the same time, has a thing for Delia Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
:hehe: yeah I think I grasped the context :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
If Grant Hanley didn't consent and was repulsed by the kiss then the response should be the same. Delia should walk.
Total stranger? Don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Think you're missing the point.
All the hype / drama / mass hysteria ... driven by the media, who stand to make millions of € in revenue.
Maybe you can apply your statistical prowess to create a better estimate.
I don't agree with what that Spanish guy did but the reaction is OTT.
The use of the term ‘woke brigade’ tells us all we need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Man kissing womanQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Woman kissing man ... couldn't think of another football related example
How have you come to the conclusion this reaction is driven by the media who stand to make millions?
A lovely spontaneous moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Karen Brady and Carlos TevezQuote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
I put it down to the anti growth alliance myself, those snowflakes are everywhere - literally :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Simple business economics ... newspapers ... big stories ... increased sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
If what is reported about the reaction in Spain is true, then I suspect that the 'mass-hysteria' will fill the pockets of those that sell news.
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I am no lefty liberal but this is about entitlement and the power dynamic. He felt empowered and entitled to that moment.
We live in an age where it's not the intent but how the action was received.
If that happens in the workplace then he is in trouble, so i don't see the difference. So tell me, "how did that make you feel?" ....
I am sure that if Grant had felt Delias smacker was not appropriate she'd be in trouble as well.
I’m currently in Thailand on holiday. I was talking with our neighbours, French & Dutch couples, both football fans and they’re completely oblivious to this and cannot comprehend the issue. I showed them the video, men and women and they were like, what’s the issue, it’s the Latin way!
Embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Wow you just can't wait to be triggered!
How mad is it you made up a random nonsense example to get yourself wound up about?!
WTF are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Sorry its only understandable by card carrying members of the woke brigade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Your application to join must still be being processed.
Queen Elizabeth II and Bobby Moore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
There's always News this one event won't generate much if anything in the way of additional sales.
It's in the News because his behaviour is unacceptable and it's been made worse by victim blaming.
I’ve seen your wife Eric. Don’t think you need to worry about that .😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Given that the President's mother has apparently locked herself in a church and started a hunger strike you do wonder whether she has shares in some of these media outlets making millions of euros on the back of these events!Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
I'm not sure there's anything else happening in the world right now. Lucky he's saved the blank front pages and 0kb webpages!
The last sentence here sums it all up nicely. There's a lot of politics in the background with the Spanish women's national team but it strikes me as a totally overblown situation now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Not sure I'm confortable with situations like this being labelled as sexual assault
How would you define sexual assault Jimbo?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I think it would be important to know what Grant Hanley and his team mates think about it….
She has a right to not be happy with it. I do feel it is a bit of a storm in a tea cup though and isn't helped by the fractures already in the women's game in Spain.
Prosecutors looking into sexual assault.
He shouldn't have done it, he was obviously caught up in the moment and they do know each other and given context I don't think he should be lumped with sex offenders.
I do agree it shouldn't be an issue as he should never have done it.
Karen Brady and Paul PeschisolidoQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Lets flip the scenerio then.
Spain mens team wins the world cup, Álvaro Morata steps up to the podium and Luis Rubiales places both hands behind the unsuspecting Morata's head, braces him, then plants a 2 second kiss full on the lips. Morata later said to reporters he didn't like it.
Would there be a story.....Of course because its a bit strange, but in that situation, Superstar, multi-millionaire Morata is at least as powerful but in reality more than the president.
Its a story about mis use of power through entitlement
I can’t imagine Norwich winning the FA Cup. So that’s the end of that.
SLUDGE!! Does Delia do tongue? I know she's 82 but was a sort 62 years ago...what says you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Probably not as a single peck, even if it's on the lips, which I assume makes it a sexual assault as opposed to a cheek (which is what, just assault?). If that's the case then I should imagine most of us are serial sexual offenders and I don't think that's really the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
I don’t think there was any bad intentions on his behalf, I think he was over exciting but I also don’t think it was appropriate. Also the way he grabbed the back of her head and pulled her towards him left a lot to be desired, I wouldn’t class it as a peck and I think if anyone did that to someone they would expect a slap back.
I don’t think the whole thing has been handled very well.
I'm sure someone with your intellect and ability to read nuance understands the concept of 'consent'?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Do you regularly kiss everyone on the cheeks then?
For all those saying it’s an overreaction - ask your wife / girlfriend / female friend or family member what their take is on it and whether they would feel violated if it happened to them. Whichever way you look at it - it’s and assault of a sexual nature.
Worth a bet at 200-1?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
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