It's about time the XL Bully was banned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66770328

Horrible dogs they are basically adapted from pit bulls, but made bigger and more powerful who would want one of those in their house with kids?

I am in total agreement almost every death you here is XL Bully's, as close as Caerphilly we've had deaths of a young 10-year-old boy and an 83-year-old lady, that one was crossed with a massive cross cane corso.

Don't worry about DNA if it looks like a pitbull or XL Bully put it down.

https://news.sky.com/story/xl-bully-...r%22%20version.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2408992.html

100%

You should be put down in my opinion.

https://dogsmith.com/breedism-by-ian-dunbar/

...not the daily mail so will require a certain level of reading skills, patience and an ability to think.

It's not so much the dog as the chav scummers that own them. You don't seen a person of relative intelligence owning an XL Bully? They always seemed to be owned by feckwits that can't even wipe their own backsides unless social services are involved. As a dog owner myself (always German Shepherds) it is 99.99% never the dogs fault for an attack but the vermin that owns the said dog.

Currently, close to where I live in Caerphilly there is a chavvie with a grey one. I'm just waiting for it to bite/attack someone. After the rugby match yesterday I was leaving my local in town and happened to pass by this retard with his dog where they were waiting outside a takeway, when the dog jumped up at a several young kids a couple of times as I was passing by. Said chavvie managed to pull the dog back. As I've said though, I'm just waiting to hear about it attacking someone.....

Not even open to discussion.....common sense says yes.

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You should be put down in my opinion.

https://dogsmith.com/breedism-by-ian-dunbar/

...not the daily mail so will require a certain level of reading skills, patience and an ability to think.

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Utter rubbish - Certainly, dogs can be dangerous; they frequently bite, very infrequently maim and only extremely rarely, kill people. Certainly, each death is a heart-rending tragedy. But it is nonetheless essential to maintain perspective and to consider the danger of dogs relative to other dangers.

XL Bully dogs have been killing people, do you think if the owner in Caerphilly had a chihuahua the young boy in Caerphilly would have died if it had bitten him?

It's like saying don't ban guns in the UK, teach people to use them responsibly, and get the drug gangs to go gun shooting classes on how to be a lovely citizen.

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

It's not so much the dog as the chav scummers that own them. You don't seen a person of relative intelligence owning an XL Bully? They always seemed to be owned by feckwits that can't even wipe their own backsides unless social services are involved. As a dog owner myself (always German Shepherds) it is 99.99% never the dogs fault for an attack but the vermin that owns the said dog.

Currently, close to where I live in Caerphilly there is a chavvie with a grey one. I'm just waiting for it to bite/attack someone. After the rugby match yesterday I was leaving my local in town and happened to pass by this retard with his dog where they were waiting outside a takeway, when the dog jumped up at a several young kids a couple of times as I was passing by. Said chavvie managed to pull the dog back. As I've said though, I'm just waiting to hear about it attacking someone.....

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You should report it to the police immediately. The dog that killed the young lad in Penyrheol was filmed a few days before doing the exact same thing only outside shops. They take it very serious in this area.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...United_Kingdom

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

It's not so much the dog as the chav scummers that own them. You don't seen a person of relative intelligence owning an XL Bully? They always seemed to be owned by feckwits that can't even wipe their own backsides unless social services are involved. As a dog owner myself (always German Shepherds) it is 99.99% never the dogs fault for an attack but the vermin that owns the said dog.

Currently, close to where I live in Caerphilly there is a chavvie with a grey one. I'm just waiting for it to bite/attack someone. After the rugby match yesterday I was leaving my local in town and happened to pass by this retard with his dog where they were waiting outside a takeway, when the dog jumped up at a several young kids a couple of times as I was passing by. Said chavvie managed to pull the dog back. As I've said though, I'm just waiting to hear about it attacking someone.....

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That happened with the dog that attacked and killed the young boy in Caerphilly, shortly after the fatal attack happened, that dog should definitely be put down it's a matter of time.

Spot on about the idiots that have them, the only way to stop them from having a dog that will kill people is to ban all dogs that can and do kill people.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

You should report it to the police immediately. The dog that killed the young lad in Penyrheol was filmed a few days before doing the exact same thing only outside shops. They take it very serious in this area.

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These XL Bully aggressive dogs sometimes start by attacking and killing other dogs too, they are totally unpredictable and aggression has been bred into them.

They're evil, get rid!

Before open in this thread I was wondering which board member it would refer to.

Agreed, and if they can also ban the tracksuit wearing chavs that usually parade around with these types of dogs then that's a bonus.

Isn't there some shit leaky boat they can all be sent to.

Trouble is these dogs are constantly evolving hybrids.By the time they get to ban these dogs the breeders will bread them with 5% of something else and they won't be able to ban them.It ain't that straightforward.Properly licenced breeders and a register of owners with regular check ups for said owners.

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Trouble is these dogs are constantly evolving hybrids.By the time they get to ban these dogs the breeders will bread them with 5% of something else and they won't be able to ban them.It ain't that straightforward.Properly licenced breeders and a register of owners with regular check ups for said owners.

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They have to keep up with the breeders, I was thinking earlier, what is to stop a Frankenstein dog, Alsation, and Doberman mate, and mate those pups with an XL Bully Cane Corso cross! Something daft like that will happen, but they will quickly have to be banned and put down and the breeders locked up.

The latest trends it maybe a XL Bulloodle.

or a XL Bullshit (XL and Shitzu)

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You should report it to the police immediately. The dog that killed the young lad in Penyrheol was filmed a few days before doing the exact same thing only outside shops. They take it very serious in this area.

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My phone was buried deep in my pocket and by the time I had stopped to get it out, the kids had walked away. I occasionally use that shop/post office where that killer dog was filmed biting someone prior to it killing that poor kiddie.

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You should report it to the police immediately. The dog that killed the young lad in Penyrheol was filmed a few days before doing the exact same thing only outside shops. They take it very serious in this area.

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I have just reported it to the police.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

https://dogsmith.com/breedism-by-ian-dunbar/

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'Whataboutism' at its finest. :shrug:

100% agree they should be banned. I don’t disagree a lot of it is the owners but I don’t understand why anyone would want a dog that is capable of killing someone. Even the friendliest dog can turn and these seem more prone than most.

I think there needs to be a better idea than just banning them though as staffs, Rottweilers etc etc etc are all dangerous weapons in the wrong hands

That breed and variations should be banned to stop someone tweaking the breed to avoid a ban.

Also some form of licence and training of the owner and the dog should be mandatory for all breeds as some people are unfit to be pet owners and some dogs have been raised badly.

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'Whataboutism' at its finest. :shrug:

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You don't know what that expression means.

Can we ban cars? because they kill more kids than pitbulls do.

How about banning alcohol. Drunk people kill more people than dogs do.

Basically, what I'm saying is that simple-minded people like the OP would probably ban anything or anyone that he finds don't fit in with his particular world-view. He doesn't consider more sensible measures like controlling breeders, ensuring that dog-owners are qualified to look after a dog properly (regardless of breed). Maybe certain dogs should wear muzzles when in public.

Dog ownership and breeding should be reviewed. Not only to avoid dog attacks, but also for the welfare of the animals.

Seems odd that perfectly well adjusted people are unable to adopt a rescue dog on the one hand, and on the other, total bellends are able to get their hands on dogs like these. Ban idiots from owning dogs.

Certain breeds or crossbreeds in some cases are dangerous wether an idiot is their owner or not

These need to be either put down or quickly bred out

Nothing else is going to work

It would help if these moronic owners were put down too but I have a feeling that's probably illegal

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

You don't know what that expression means.

Can we ban cars? because they kill more kids than pitbulls do.

How about banning alcohol. Drunk people kill more people than dogs do.

Basically, what I'm saying is that simple-minded people like the OP would probably ban anything or anyone that he finds don't fit in with his particular world-view. He doesn't consider more sensible measures like controlling breeders, ensuring that dog-owners are qualified to look after a dog properly (regardless of breed). Maybe certain dogs should wear muzzles when in public.

Dog ownership and breeding should be reviewed. Not only to avoid dog attacks, but also for the welfare of the animals.

Seems odd that perfectly well adjusted people are unable to adopt a rescue dog on the one hand, and on the other, total bellends are able to get their hands on dogs like these. Ban idiots from owning dogs.

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Of course, I understand all that and agree with other measures also do whatever is needed to make all dog owners more responsible and accountable, but as I've already said these more powerful aggressive pitbull spin-offs are too dangerous to take the risk with. You wouldn't allow the bellends to walk a pet tiger around because it could kill people, the same with untrained XL bully's. Kill off the breed to reduce the chance of young children and elderly people being killed in the future, these are the dogs the bellends want because they are big powerful, and bred to be aggressive and dangerous.

If they crossbreed a new dangerous dog, ban those too.

In this thread alone someone has spotted an out-of-control dangerous XL and reported it to the police, well done Mr Soul 68, you genuinely might have saved some young kid's life.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

You don't know what that expression means.

Can we ban cars? because they kill more kids than pitbulls do.

How about banning alcohol. Drunk people kill more people than dogs do.

Basically, what I'm saying is that simple-minded people like the OP would probably ban anything or anyone that he finds don't fit in with his particular world-view. He doesn't consider more sensible measures like controlling breeders, ensuring that dog-owners are qualified to look after a dog properly (regardless of breed). Maybe certain dogs should wear muzzles when in public.

Dog ownership and breeding should be reviewed. Not only to avoid dog attacks, but also for the welfare of the animals.

Seems odd that perfectly well adjusted people are unable to adopt a rescue dog on the one hand, and on the other, total bellends are able to get their hands on dogs like these. Ban idiots from owning dogs.

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The big question for me, is that given these have a very questionable temperament, and in a split second could snap and kill, why would you possibly be want to take a chance in owning one?

No coincidence the only ones to own these dogs are the ****er chav owners.

I’m sure Caerphilly is the worst in the UK for dog attacks I’ve been told.

Ban them.

A quick search on Youtube will throw up lots of videos (almost all from America) of pitbulls and XL bullys lying on a couch gently snuggled up to the owner's 6-month-old baby, with the message the owner is trying to convey... "See, in the right hands these kinds of dogs are just gentle giants". WRONG!

These kinds of dogs are extremely protective and territorial. They are overly cautious towards strangers, which can often trigger an unexpected attack.

All dogs are capable of biting and attacking, however, breeds like this have the power and stamina to sustain a prolonged attack.

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The big question for me, is that given these have a very questionable temperament, and in a split second could snap and kill, why would you possibly be want to take a chance in owning one?

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I think that the dogs that killed that baby in Ystrad Mynach (a while back now) were a jack russell and a staffy.

..........these dogs are not born monsters (even though they might look scary to you) who want to rip your throat out. You and others are being a bit soft.

If these dogs are properly socialised from a young age around kids, adults and other dogs, I think they would be as likely to randomly attack someone as any other dog.

Breed them out , fine. Put them down ....you can't just go to someone's house and say ...."ye, I'm gonna have to kill your dog".

You can however fine people if they have a big dog like this that is not wearing a muzzle ...for example.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

I think that the dogs that killed that baby in Ystrad Mynach (a while back now) were a jack russell and a staffy.

..........these dogs are not born monsters (even though they might look scary to you) who want to rip your throat out. You and others are being a bit soft.

If these dogs are properly socialised from a young age around kids, adults and other dogs, I think they would be as likely to randomly attack someone as any other dog.

Breed them out , fine. Put them down ....you can't just go to someone's house and say ...."ye, I'm gonna have to kill your dog".

You can however fine people if they have a big dog like this that is not wearing a muzzle ...for example.

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I agree and did say that I felt they’d need to go further than banning them.

I don’t know why not wanting to see dangerous dogs around is being a bit soft?

What is the reason you’d want one?

By that logic we should be able to have any dangerous animal as long as we have the instruction manual

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

I think that the dogs that killed that baby in Ystrad Mynach (a while back now) were a jack russell and a staffy.

..........these dogs are not born monsters (even though they might look scary to you) who want to rip your throat out. You and others are being a bit soft.

If these dogs are properly socialised from a young age around kids, adults and other dogs, I think they would be as likely to randomly attack someone as any other dog.

Breed them out , fine. Put them down ....you can't just go to someone's house and say ...."ye, I'm gonna have to kill your dog".

You can however fine people if they have a big dog like this that is not wearing a muzzle ...for example.

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What idiot would leave a baby with a Staffie, they can be nasty too in the wrong hands but can't easily go around killing 10 year old kids and old ladies, because it's harder for them to reach your throat. Pictures of the XL's showing going for people's throats and faces they large and heavy.

Jack Russell nip people's ankles they don't rip people's faces off, The comparison is daft, but still never leave a baby with a dog.

If they can't be banned why aren't muzzles compulsory on those sorts of animal?

I just don't get why your average person would want a dog that powerful. Everyone's different though I suppose.

If you're having to muzzle it, it probably just shouldn't be around people.

I'm not sure there is definitively something in them that makes them more aggressive, and indeed probably less so than the yappy little ****ers, but unlike them these are huge with solid muscle.

There's a lot of dog owners that shouldn't be looking after a goldfish unfortunately.

So a suggestion,
We go back to the dog licence, so that everyone is very clear about who owns a dog.
If that dog then attacks someone, the dog is immediately put to sleep and the owner gets an automatic prison sentence. In the same way that drink driving is an automatic ban.

It is all about the owners and training IMO.
I got bitten by a Golden Retriever when I was a kid doing my paper round.

As has been stated, the owner of these type of dogs do tend to fit a certain profile and are probably fine with their dogs to be aggressive.

Something should absolutely be done, but I’d hate to see random dogs just be put down because of the law.

I think that some of these dogs are very dangerous

A bite from a jack Russell is nasty , a bite from one of these muscle bound dogs can be fatal

We have to stop pissing about

We have to get to a situation where a sighting of one of these dogs is rare and leads to vet checks and owner checks

Unless the authorities are certain the dog is safe and the owner is responsible then the dog is destroyed

I couldn't care less about the owners of these dogs if there is any remote chance of a fatal dog attack

You bought the bloody thing , it's aggressive, it's lashing out at people , don't give me that oh it's great with my kids crap , the vets are of the opinion it's a risk so it's going to be put to sleep

It's going to be upsetting but that's the way it is

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So a suggestion,
We go back to the dog licence, so that everyone is very clear about who owns a dog.
If that dog then attacks someone, the dog is immediately put to sleep and the owner gets an automatic prison sentence. In the same way that drink driving is an automatic ban.

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That will be great but may be too late in many cases

The breeding , ownership and distribution of dangerous dogs is completely out of control

The feckin kennel club and these owners of inter bred muscle dogs are idiots and if it was one of their kids butchered by these animals they would be crying and screaming on the TV news

I'm doubting myself now????????

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...nment-27691867

The first time ever he's said something logical that I agree with!

Mind it's so obvious even he couldn't say the opposite of this especially as Wales has had more than our share of tragedy.

I'm inclined to agree that it's more the fault of owners than the dogs. But to read some people on Facebook etc you'd think that it's impossible for any dog to be intrinsically aggressive. Also, as has been mentioned previously, if a big dog like the XL bully wants to go for you then it's a bit more of a problem than if a Yorkshire terrier has decided it really doesn't like you.

There were nearly 7,500 people hospitalised by dog attacks in 20/21 and by all accounts(BBC breakfast this morning) those figures have increased this year.

10 deaths last year from dog attacks. It's too many, and I think it's only right that legislation should be brought in.

Bit of a side point, but certainly pertinent to me. My sister has to use a wheelchair, and it's surprising to see how many otherwise calm dogs get triggered/aggressive when they catch sight of it. Also very worrying how many dog owners seem to find it amusing.

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Bit of a side point, but certainly pertinent to me. My sister has to use a wheelchair, and it's surprising to see how many otherwise calm dogs get triggered/aggressive when they catch sight of it. Also very worrying how many dog owners seem to find it amusing.

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my old dog used to have similar whenever captain tom was on tv. Nothing else caused it but him. And that was an extremely calm (and small) dog. I've always had the opinion that you can't trust any dog completely, but with that in mind why anyone would want to go out of their way to get a dog SO physically strong and known to have tendencies for aggression is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66770328

Horrible dogs they are basically adapted from pit bulls, but made bigger and more powerful who would want one of those in their house with kids?

I am in total agreement almost every death you here is XL Bully's, as close as Caerphilly we've had deaths of a young 10-year-old boy and an 83-year-old lady, that one was crossed with a massive cross cane corso.

Don't worry about DNA if it looks like a pitbull or XL Bully put it down.

https://news.sky.com/story/xl-bully-...r%22%20version.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2408992.html

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Drakeford agrees with you.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/mark-drakeford-says-uk-government-27691867

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...nment-27691867