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Binmen strike for longer and the odd binwomen
Great so while crawling around Cardiff at 20mph, you'll get a lovely odour of bins, and can play fly-tipping and rat spotting!
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...rdiff-27701982
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Use this to check when yours will be collected as it will be all over the place for a while - https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/resid...s/default.aspx
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North Cardiff Blue
Do you approve of this continual austerity for our public service workers?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Do you approve of this continual austerity for our public service workers?
I don't think about it?
I believe in unions and taking a stand against bad employers.
A bin strike is bad news though.
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North Cardiff Blue
I don't think about it?
Well now it’s impacting you and you are thinking about it. Seems like the strike is doing part of what it’s supposed to.
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Canton Kev
Well now it’s impacting you and you are thinking about it. Seems like the strike is doing part of what it’s supposed to.
A lot of areas of the UK use private refuse collectors because - like Cardiff - the service is f****g useless.
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A Quiet Monkfish
A lot of areas of the UK use private refuse collectors because - like Cardiff - the service is f****g useless.
F****g useless with the private contractor or the in-house? (You need another *)
In Sheffield the bin collection service was privatised (outsourced) in 2001. It was pretty good with the in-house service before; it has been pretty good under the private contractor Amey since. Both have had (rare) strikes.
Amey provide a cheaper service to the Council partly because they reduced terms and conditions for new starters after they won the contract. There are some 'bells and whistles' sweeteners in the deal for the Council, some economies of scale by the company (part of a massive conglomerate and now private equity owned), and some loss of public money into private dividends and executive salaries.
Amey also won the 25 year Streets Ahead road maintenance (plus verges and trees) £2bn contract in 2012 - so have their hands on most of the visible Council 'works' services - although not council home maintenance. I am not impressed with their highways work.
Mixed picture - but not a clear argument for privatisation of public services!
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North Cardiff Blue
Such a wonderful place at the moment…..
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North Cardiff Blue
Last week I checked that site and it said my food waste, green bags and garden waste would be collected the next day, so I (and the rest of the street) put them all out.
On the next day (normall collection day) everything was cancelled apart from food waste, so it all had to be brought back in.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Do you approve of this continual austerity for our public service workers?
Not sure a bin strike works though, You don't get paid for two weeks, and when you get back you collect a month's worth of smelly bin rubbish instead of two weeks?
Stop overtime so there is no benefit just work faster to catch up.
They may be better just negotiating.
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Originally Posted by
bobh
Last week I checked that site and it said my food waste, green bags and garden waste would be collected the next day, so I (and the rest of the street) put them all out.
On the next day (normall collection day) everything was cancelled apart from food waste, so it all had to be brought back in.
Yes sign up for the email, that seems more up to date, but with a strike, there are still going to be mistakes like that until the backlog has cleared probably November.
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Years ago (yes I’m off reminiscing again :hehe:), we had the same binmen every week, you got to know their first names and every week you knew that your bins were collected, there was no mess left outside your houses and at the end of the year you gave them a Christmas bonus (money or pressie)
These days, I don’t think we’ve had the same bin collectors twice, it’s normally some youngsters who don’t give a toss about the mess they leave behind them, no respect for the job or the streets that they serve.
How can they seriously ask for more money, when they are not doing the job asked of them properly now
RANT OVER, apart from, They Got No Respect for the job
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BLUETIT
Years ago (yes I’m off reminiscing again :hehe:), we had the same binmen every week, you got to know their first names and every week you knew that your bins were collected, there was no mess left outside your houses and at the end of the year you gave them a Christmas bonus (money or pressie)
These days, I don’t think we’ve had the same bin collectors twice, it’s normally some youngsters who don’t give a toss about the mess they leave behind them, no respect for the job or the streets that they serve.
How can they seriously ask for more money, when they are not doing the job asked of them properly now
RANT OVER, apart from, They Got No Respect for the job
wouldnt say its a rant you are correct ,when one of the crew go on holiday with us i get missed because the others cant be bothered to walk 30 yards:angry:
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jon1959
F****g useless with the private contractor or the in-house? (You need another *)
In Sheffield the bin collection service was privatised (outsourced) in 2001. It was pretty good with the in-house service before; it has been pretty good under the private contractor Amey since. Both have had (rare) strikes.
Amey provide a cheaper service to the Council partly because they reduced terms and conditions for new starters after they won the contract. There are some 'bells and whistles' sweeteners in the deal for the Council, some economies of scale by the company (part of a massive conglomerate and now private equity owned), and some loss of public money into private dividends and executive salaries.
Amey also won the 25 year Streets Ahead road maintenance (plus verges and trees) £2bn contract in 2012 - so have their hands on most of the visible Council 'works' services - although not council home maintenance. I am not impressed with their highways work.
Mixed picture - but not a clear argument for privatisation of public services!
It's more to do with the frequency/limits/restriction etc. In parts of N.Wales some collections have become monthly. My son in Herts. has 3 large bins each of which are collected weekly. Accepted a better-off L.A. but that can't wholly account for the huge difference in service levels.
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When you screw more and more out of people and services this is the result
Thatcher and the twats who voted for her kept screwing
Then privatised
Then as money talks......the screwing continues
The bins , care services , transport, utilities
On and on it goes
And then when people do say we have had enough or what about a pay rise ? .......
It's all the fault of the bin men , carers , bus drivers , train drivers , doctors , nurses , cleaners
And those that brought all this crap in get the ordinary people who are understandably pissed off to slag off the workers and do their dirty work for them
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People who continually vote for austerity complain as they experience the inevitable results of austerity. It'd be ****ing hilarious if it wasn't so predictable and damaging.
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Doucas
People who continually vote for austerity complain as they experience the inevitable results of austerity. It'd be ****ing hilarious if it wasn't so predictable and damaging.
It's local council mismanagement and wastage that's causing the problems not austerity!
Labour support is strike action, then when they go bust in Birmingham they blame wage inflation as the main reason!
So you're telling your staff they should strike for more, then when you go bust it's because we had to pay the staff we encouraged to strike for more money, more money!
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A Quiet Monkfish
It's more to do with the frequency/limits/restriction etc. In parts of N.Wales some collections have become monthly. My son in Herts. has 3 large bins each of which are collected weekly. Accepted a better-off L.A. but that can't wholly account for the huge difference in service levels.
The differences in service levels around the country - and over time - are stark.
We now have four wheelie bins: big black one for general waste (collected every 2 weeks); big brown one for cans, plastics and glass (collected every 4 weeks); small blue one for paper and card (collected every 4 weeks) and a paid-for green garden waste bin (collected every 2 weeks for 6 months of the year). In every case the frequency is half what it was when the service was first privatised over 20 years ago.
I have spent some time recently trying to clear my aunt's house in the Vale after (and before) she died last month. I can't get my head around waste bags (chewed up by dogs and foxes) and the restrictions on disposal of food waste. I tried to empty her freezer of decades old crap a few months back and ended up driving it all back to Sheffield in the boot of the car to get rid of it. I know it's the same down in Cornwall but I can't understand why any council (with in house or contracted collections) wouldn't use wheelie bins.
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
It's more to do with the frequency/limits/restriction etc. In parts of N.Wales some collections have become monthly. My son in Herts. has 3 large bins each of which are collected weekly. Accepted a better-off L.A. but that can't wholly account for the huge difference in service levels.
Is the rubbish one Labour?
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...e-run-27850760
Cardiff waste collection strike which has run for over a month set to continue into November
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I know someone who used to work at Lamby Way. Apparently, the relationship between the council management and the union leadership has been toxic for a long time.
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LeningradCowboy
It's not just waste collection. It's a strike by Unite members who do all sorts of different jobs.
Waste is still being collected by people who aren't Unite members. However, some waste collectors are striking so the service is reduced, no garden waste collections.
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RichardM
It's not just waste collection. It's a strike by Unite members who do all sorts of different jobs.
Waste is still being collected by people who aren't Unite members. However, some waste collectors are striking so the service is reduced, no garden waste collections.
Yep no garden waste collected since late august maybe? Prob only need to pick this one up and no need again until spring but hey ho everyone’s green bin is full and left out in vain hope along with piles of green bags getting ripped apart. Never been right since they went to a 4 day week, it is toxic, mate if mine just left after 20 yrs with them.
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well all my waste has been collected :thumbup:
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If I was a binman on £25k a year working hard in a filthy job and you had a PM worth £300 mil + for doing f**k all then yes I'd go on strike. Let's get real!
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Dorcus
If I was a binman on £25k a year working hard in a filthy job and you had a PM worth £300 mil + for doing f**k all then yes I'd go on strike. Let's get real!
What if you were a steward at Cardiff City and Beyonce is on £50m a year? Or you work at WH smiths and Erling Haaland is on £400k a week?
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
It's local council mismanagement and wastage that's causing the problems not austerity!
Labour support is strike action, then when they go bust in Birmingham they blame wage inflation as the main reason!
So you're telling your staff they should strike for more, then when you go bust it's because we had to pay the staff we encouraged to strike for more money, more money!
You don't see a connection between how a council can operate and the amount of money it gets every year from central Government?
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the other bob wilson
You don't see a connection between how a council can operate and the amount of money it gets every year from central Government?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-150m-26554304
Yeah right
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On one hand its good to see them standing up for better Ts and Cs, but on the other hand, the service they provide is dire so they don't really deserve anything for the less than mediocrity service they currently provide.
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JamesWales
What if you were a steward at Cardiff City and Beyonce is on £50m a year? Or you work at WH smiths and Erling Haaland is on £400k a week?
Yes same difference; bloody disgusting
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Its not just binmen by any stretch, they're just the most visible. Its all Unite members in Cardiff Council so lots of electricians and maintenance staff as well.
Unison also voted in favour of strike action but couldnt take it as they didnt get the mandatory 50% turnout (tell me a councillor thats elected on a 50% turnout?). GMB didnt ballot as they are a bunch of shithouses.
Councils in England have already settled with Unite for better terms, 4 weeks in and Cardiff Council havent even come to the negotiating table, even though the WLGA have ordered them to. As soon as negotiations begin, the strike stops. Feel free to contact your councillor and give them some shit about it.
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Cardiff Ultra
Its not just binmen by any stretch, they're just the most visible. Its all Unite members in Cardiff Council so lots of electricians and maintenance staff as well.
Unison also voted in favour of strike action but couldnt take it as they didnt get the mandatory 50% turnout (tell me a councillor thats elected on a 50% turnout?). GMB didnt ballot as they are a bunch of shithouses.
Councils in England have already settled with Unite for better terms, 4 weeks in and Cardiff Council havent even come to the negotiating table, even though the WLGA have ordered them to. As soon as negotiations begin, the strike stops. Feel free to contact your councillor and give them some shit about it.
Yup, lots of boys and girls who work on repairs are on strike as well. And you're right, GMB are shithouse.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
When you screw more and more out of people and services this is the result
Thatcher and the twats who voted for her kept screwing
Then privatised
Then as money talks......the screwing continues
The bins , care services , transport, utilities
On and on it goes
And then when people do say we have had enough or what about a pay rise ? .......
It's all the fault of the bin men , carers , bus drivers , train drivers , doctors , nurses , cleaners
And those that brought all this crap in get the ordinary people who are understandably pissed off to slag off the workers and do their dirty work for them
And while this is going on the welsh Government spledge £32 million plus on road signs and god knows how much to come on more members, neither of which the vast majority of people want.
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xsnaggle
And while this is going on the welsh Government spledge £32 million plus on road signs and god knows how much to come on more members, neither of which the vast majority of people want.
They just cut 2 20mph signs off the lamppost outside my house !!!
Well I think it was council workmen :hehe::hehe:
In Llanishen, what’s all that about
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BLUETIT
They just cut 2 20mph signs off the lamppost outside my house !!!
Well I think it was council workmen :hehe::hehe:
In Llanishen, what’s all that about
If it is within a built up area then unless the road is exempt the default speed is 20 MPH so there is no obligation to sign it as such, so the signs aren't required.
Still a stupid waste of money to pay someone to take them down. I wonder if that is on top of the £32 million or are all the putting up and taking down actions in addition?
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xsnaggle
And while this is going on the welsh Government spledge £32 million plus on road signs and god knows how much to come on more members, neither of which the vast majority of people want.
Why talk about something that happened recently in Wales when you can talk about something that happened decades ago though? Get your priorities right.
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xsnaggle
And while this is going on the welsh Government spledge £32 million plus on road signs and god knows how much to come on more members, neither of which the vast majority of people want.
I don't want to turn this into another thread about the 20mph limit, but where do you get 'vast majority' from?
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The Bloop
I don't want to turn this into another thread about the 20mph limit, but where do you get 'vast majority' from?
So you agree with another 30 (odd), of the leeches down the bay ?
The one’s that are there, are wasting enough
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BLUETIT
So you agree with another 30 (odd), of the leeches down the bay ?
The one’s that are there, are wasting enough
Don't think I've expressed an opinion on the proposed extra MSs. If you want one, I'll say it does seem a bit excessive, but if it leads to no overall majority in the senedd and more collaboration over decisions made there, then an increase could have benefits.
I'm still waiting though for evidence that the vast majority of people don't want a 20mph limit.