Lose Welsh Assembly Petition Growing Save 70.Million Per Year

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/643987

Let's save 70 million a year

We could do away with the Westminster parliament as well and save a fortune.
Who shall we have as our dictator?

Why doesn't England ever consider having a referendum to break away from the rest of the union?
Would save everyone else the bother.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Why doesn't England ever consider having a referendum to break away from the rest of the union?
Would save everyone else the bother.

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I thought London had, the South East always seems ‘I’m alright Jack, pull up the ladder’.

non starter

It would be better to petition to stop the increase in the number of member of the Sennydd. Together with the associated increase in staff and 'advisers' how much is it going to take out of the budget.
It could be better spent on other things.. (Like road signs :hide:) or health care or care in the community?

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Originally Posted by RichardM

We could do away with the Westminster parliament as well and save a fortune.
Who shall we have as our dictator?

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Neil Warnock

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Why doesn't England ever consider having a referendum to break away from the rest of the union?
Would save everyone else the bother.

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Funny you should say that if I was English I'd be done with Welsh, Scottish, Irish, they all hate them , on their own England would prosper and save on the crazy subsidies they dish out.. English taxpayers pay a lot for that hatred .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Funny you should say that if I was English I'd be done with Welsh, Scottish, Irish, they all hate them , on their own England would prosper and save on the crazy subsidies they dish out.. English taxpayers pay a lot for that hatred .

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Because they struggle enough with refugees coming by boat.

Any chance of not spamming the football board with this shit.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Funny you should say that if I was English I'd be done with Welsh, Scottish, Irish, they all hate them , on their own England would prosper and save on the crazy subsidies they dish out.. English taxpayers pay a lot for that hatred .

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England is a fair old size compared to the other three. There are many deprived areas in England, parts of the the North East, North West etc feel very cut off from the affluent parts. Don’t take England as a whole, it’s quite fragmented.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/643987

Let's save 70 million a year

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Seriously couldn't be any worse!

And at least you know who would be gone!

Aye if that Johnson bloke was presiding over us during the pandemic we could have all gone on the piss 100mph. It was an essential work gathering your honour.... hic, burp, parp !!

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Why doesn't England ever consider having a referendum to break away from the rest of the union?
Would save everyone else the bother.

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Because they'd have to pay a fair amount to continue to access natural resources from us and the scots

I think the Welsh Govt is crap, has been for many years and this one is worse than Carwyn Jones' one.

But that shouldn't be confused with the principle of devolution which is important, supported by the Welsh people and should, in theory if not practice, allow for more nimble and more successful governance

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

It would be better to petition to stop the increase in the number of member of the Sennydd. Together with the associated increase in staff and 'advisers' how much is it going to take out of the budget.
It could be better spent on other things.. (Like road signs :hide:) or health care or care in the community?

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Or child poverty or human trafficking or modern slavery

People getting their knickers in a twist over a 20 mph in residential areas when we have a shit storm on our doorsteps that has been created by all politicians regardless of their rosette colour cos they are all fecked in the head and useless and out to line their own pockets - certain subjects need to be left out of politics because the problems are not going to be solved by a parliamentary term of office they are generational and need time to solve bit people too busy point scoring when it all turns to shit

Complete waste of tax payers money the quicker they are got rid of the better.

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

Complete waste of tax payers money the quicker they are got rid of the better.

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Is that the case for all governments or just the Welsh one?

As this 20mph protest goes on, it’s pretty evident its mask has slipped and is no more than a Tory attempt to do away with a government that happens not to be Tory. The Tory response to voting against them? Disband the government. Very democratic.

Signed it as Raoul Moat.

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

As this 20mph protest goes on, it’s pretty evident its mask has slipped and is no more than a Tory attempt to do away with a government that happens not to be Tory. The Tory response to voting against them? Disband the government. Very democratic.

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Really? 450,000 people signed it. And a handful of people on a Cardiff City messageboard subsequently talking about scrapping the Welsh parliament - an opinion that has always had traction and some support ever since it was created.

Tories are obviously going to try to exploit opposition to this policy because that's politics. I do also think there is some genuine ideological water between the parties too on this mind

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Funny you should say that if I was English I'd be done with Welsh, Scottish, Irish, they all hate them , on their own England would prosper and save on the crazy subsidies they dish out.. English taxpayers pay a lot for that hatred .

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I have friends over the bridge who think the same.
I would much rather abandon the terms English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish and instead just have the word British.
Like any partnership - it's not exactly fair and square at the moment. We get back more than we contribute - so why would the 'English' vote to get rid.
If we were all lumped in together as one - there wouldnt be an us vs them debate - other than from the usual bog eyed cretins

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Originally Posted by pipster

I have friends over the bridge who think the same.
I would much rather abandon the terms English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish and instead just have the word British.
Like any partnership - it's not exactly fair and square at the moment. We get back more than we contribute - so why would the 'English' vote to get rid.
If we were all lumped in together as one - there wouldnt be an us vs them debate - other than from the usual bog eyed cretins

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I usually disagree with your posts but on this one I'm with you 100%. I hate to see the break up of the UK and, in my opinion, a Federal organisation would have been far better than devolution which I detest.

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Originally Posted by pipster

I have friends over the bridge who think the same.
I would much rather abandon the terms English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish and instead just have the word British.
Like any partnership - it's not exactly fair and square at the moment. We get back more than we contribute - so why would the 'English' vote to get rid.
If we were all lumped in together as one - there wouldnt be an us vs them debate - other than from the usual bog eyed cretins

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I used to regard myself as British and felt proud, even serving 6 years in the army. Now I no longer call myself British after the way the Tories have trashed this country and its reputation over the last 13 years.

This was once a nation that supported those struggling with life, mostly through no fault of their own, now almost all ladders and safety nets have been removed. During this time governments has increased the burden on the ordinary worker, whilst allowing the wealthy to use multiple tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of tax, whilst cutting the number of tax prosecution of wealthy tax evaders through cuts to HMRC. They have abrogated their responsibility for looking after the poorest and have turned us into a country of food banks

They have trashed our reputation as a country that follows the rules of law and that of adhering to treaties and agreements. They are talking about removing us from the European court of Human Rights, aligning us with Russia and Belarus. The reputation we had was hard won but will extremely be hard to regain.

We used to a country that had a reputation of getting things done, but the miss-management of the country over the last 13 years has turned us into a country where nothing no works and delays are the norm.

I am no longer a proud Britain, I now regard myself as just Welsh.

Total waste of time...just get rid of it and save .....

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Originally Posted by 79blue

I used to regard myself as British and felt proud, even serving 6 years in the army. Now I no longer call myself British after the way the Tories have trashed this country and its reputation over the last 13 years.

This was once a nation that supported those struggling with life, mostly through no fault of their own, now almost all ladders and safety nets have been removed. During this time governments has increased the burden on the ordinary worker, whilst allowing the wealthy to use multiple tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of tax, whilst cutting the number of tax prosecution of wealthy tax evaders through cuts to HMRC. They have abrogated their responsibility for looking after the poorest and have turned us into a country of food banks

They have trashed our reputation as a country that follows the rules of law and that of adhering to treaties and agreements. They are talking about removing us from the European court of Human Rights, aligning us with Russia and Belarus. The reputation we had was hard won but will extremely be hard to regain.

We used to a country that had a reputation of getting things done, but the miss-management of the country over the last 13 years has turned us into a country where nothing no works and delays are the norm.

I am no longer a proud Britain, I now regard myself as just Welsh.

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1. Thank you for your service.
2. I had a good friend who executed by the side of the road in Iraq. He had a wife and 3 kids.
3. Unfortunately we went to war in Iraq based on 1 big lie and the war in Afghan was equally as futile given the end result.
4. Defence reviews have been conducted by both red and blue over the years and spending is based on where they think the threat is coming from.

If you can think of a legal way to solve the small boats issue - please let us all know. As so far - every method has failed.

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

As this 20mph protest goes on, it’s pretty evident its mask has slipped and is no more than a Tory attempt to do away with a government that happens not to be Tory. The Tory response to voting against them? Disband the government. Very democratic.

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With such a low turn out , it’s argued it shouldn’t have been possible in the first place. Cardiff voted No

Why any Welsh person is happy being ruled by England is beyond me. If you're happy with that, support England in all sports. Show your allegiance with England. Then fck off and leave Wales to those who love Wales.

Any Welshman happy being ruled by England isn't a true Welshman.

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Originally Posted by pipster

I have friends over the bridge who think the same.
I would much rather abandon the terms English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish and instead just have the word British.
Like any partnership - it's not exactly fair and square at the moment. We get back more than we contribute - so why would the 'English' vote to get rid.
If we were all lumped in together as one - there wouldnt be an us vs them debate - other than from the usual bog eyed cretins

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Whenever I'm asked abroad where I originate from, I proudly say Great Britain 🇬🇧

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Why any Welsh person is happy being ruled by England is beyond me. If you're happy with that, support England in all sports. Show your allegiance with England. Then fck off and leave Wales to those who love Wales.

Any Welshman happy being ruled by England isn't a true Welshman.

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Where not were ruled by a second rate Welsh Assembly and third rate First Minister who in the last 20 years have done very little for Wales other than hold it back .

If it wasn't for the evil Westminster funding government sector jobs in Wales like WAG , ONS, Patent Office , Companies House, DVLA , Wales could be in trouble , in fact the Welsh economy is dangerously over-reliant on the public sector..

I was born in Wales originating from Central London stock , who were sadly bombed out in WW2 , and ame and happily embraced Wales and added value .. no chip on thier shoulder or hatred .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Whenever I'm asked abroad where I originate from, I proudly say Great Britain 🇬🇧

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So why attach a UK flag to your post?

Come on, do you want to be associated with the (northern) Irish or not?

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Why any Welsh person is happy being ruled by England is beyond me. If you're happy with that, support England in all sports. Show your allegiance with England. Then fck off and leave Wales to those who love Wales.

Any Welshman happy being ruled by England isn't a true Welshman.

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I’m Welsh born but my parents and grandparents were not , infact my grandfathers company still employees hundreds of Welsh people , imagine if he fcuk d off.

I support Wales even though half the team are English born.

People had their chance to abolish the WAG. There was a political party that ran in 2021 who’s sole purpose was exactly that.

They got a whopping 0 seats and out of a combined 2.2 million votes for the Regional and Constituency seats they got less than 60,000 votes.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/643987

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Let's face it. He is like Biden. Away with the fairies. Energy of a sloth. Brain of a newt. Charisma of a low grade bank clerk. If we were streaming political classes like they streamed ability classes in my senior school, we would have:

Alpha
Beta
Rem (Remedial)

Drakeford would clearly be in the Rem class. Naturally, I was always in Alpha for my subjects, but that is quite obvious really, and really didn't need mentioning. But there you go. I was clever. There I've said it.

Ahem. Dripford wouldn't be the only one in Rem though, (no doubt grabbing "seconds" burgers at lunch time and smoking fags behind the bike shed.) It is my observation and conclusion that most of these pond-dwellers in the Assem-ber-lee should be in the Rem class really. Rhodri Morgan could probably nab a place in the Beta class. I think Carwyn Jones, Ieuan Wyn Jones and Alun Michael were the only ones I can think of as good enough to be ranked in the Alpha class. And I suspect, were he not caught "foraging for badgers" on Bristol common with a random rastafarian, Ron Davies would have gone on to be a superb leader, and another addition for the Alpha class.

Short supply though. I voted for the Assembly and would still vote to keep it, to protect the language, culture, identity, tourism and sport. But the Rems that populate it are cannon fodder in politics and about as much use as a pork pie in a synagogue with a cup of cold piss.

You are clever. That is quite obvious.

OK.

Something is quite obvious. Just what though…,,?

I just hope this is a major whooooosh.

If not - seriously embarrassing!