Good start to Starmer’s speech.

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10-10-23, 13:23
the other bob wilson

Good start to Starmer’s speech.

A protester, presumably from Just stop oil, got on the stage and poured what, for want of a better word, was sludge over him.
10-10-23, 13:40
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Good start to Starmer’s speech.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

A protester, presumably from Just stop oil, got on the stage and poured what, for want of a better word, was sludge over him.

I have switched off , I can't watch or listen to starmer , he's like a boring old school teacher who should be retired
10-10-23, 14:28
ninian opinian

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You should have watched. He was very good, even the Tory media commentators said so lol. And you missed his wife on stage at the end. A good looking woman.
10-10-23, 14:36
Swiss Peter

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

You should have watched. He was very good, even the Tory media commentators said so lol. And you missed his wife on stage at the end. A good looking woman.

Yeah, I thought he showed a bit of character and spirit. He even mentioned Bridgend especially to try and win Sludge over.
10-10-23, 14:40
JamesWales

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I don't think the protester did him any harm. Had it been some Palestine type thing it may have or if there has been many of them, but he shook it off quite well. The guy was from some spin-off of Just Stop Oil. It does point to there being some problems from the left of the party in the next year but it was ever thus.

I listened to nearly all the speech. I don't find him enormously inspirational, but that's fine. I don't think the country is seeking that really. Was pleased to see him take the SNP to task too, and it shows that will be a clear battle ground.

He'll be happy with that and I think he did quite well.
10-10-23, 14:40
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

Yeah, I thought he showed a bit of character and spirit. He even mentioned Bridgend especially to try and win Sludge over.

I must have missed the bit about Bridgend. What did he say?
10-10-23, 14:47
Rjk

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I must have missed the bit about Bridgend. What did he say?

he said Bridgend is bluebird territory, those jacks can **** right off
10-10-23, 14:59
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by Rjk

he said Bridgend is bluebird territory, those jacks can **** right off

That's me sold!
10-10-23, 15:07
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

A protester, presumably from Just stop oil, got on the stage and poured what, for want of a better word, was sludge over him.

Tell Starmer to give us our Sludge back; we need him to fight the good fight here.
10-10-23, 17:37
The Bloop

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I must have missed the bit about Bridgend. What did he say?

He said he'd bulldoze the whole place and build a new town in its place.
10-10-23, 17:53
life on mars

Re: Good start to Starmer’s speech.

I liked his recent quote:

Keir Starmer tells ITV News that…

“I’m very happy to work with The Sun, to write for The Sun, to do interviews for The Sun…”

Bloody Tory
10-10-23, 20:04
pipster

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

A protester, presumably from Just stop oil, got on the stage and poured what, for want of a better word, was sludge over him.

The first part of his speech was the most interesting bit, where he was 'Glittered'. The rest of it was just as dull as my dish water. I know someone who did his bar exams with Starma, didnt speak too well of him - dull, no personality and would bore a witness into a submission.

I had it on in the back ground today - and it was the same of socialist rhetoric but just delivered in a monosyllabic tone. I thought he was going to bring the "Ed Stone" from the Milliband campaign...
Rachel (forget her surname) - the shadow chancellor was slightly better, Raynor was listenable if only for the humour. Good to see she has put her ginger growler away.

So far - none of the 'leadership' speeches have been up to much. Would have rather had a maths lesson with Dianne Abbott than go through that lost lunchtime hour again.
10-10-23, 20:55
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by pipster

The first part of his speech was the most interesting bit, where he was 'Glittered'. The rest of it was just as dull as my dish water. I know someone who did his bar exams with Starma, didnt speak too well of him - dull, no personality and would bore a witness into a submission.

I had it on in the back ground today - and it was the same of socialist rhetoric but just delivered in a monosyllabic tone. I thought he was going to bring the "Ed Stone" from the Milliband campaign...
Rachel (forget her surname) - the shadow chancellor was slightly better, Raynor was listenable if only for the humour. Good to see she has put her ginger growler away.

So far - none of the 'leadership' speeches have been up to much. Would have rather had a maths lesson with Dianne Abbott than go through that lost lunchtime hour again.

The labour conference is doing what it needs to do

Slow , safe and boring

Your tory party conference was shocking summed up by that dreadful speech from Mourdant

That's all over youtube

Down in the polls after the conference as well

Not a good time to be a tory
10-10-23, 21:08
Claude Blue

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Originally Posted by pipster

The first part of his speech was the most interesting bit, where he was 'Glittered'. The rest of it was just as dull as my dish water. I know someone who did his bar exams with Starma, didnt speak too well of him - dull, no personality and would bore a witness into a submission.

I had it on in the back ground today - and it was the same of socialist rhetoric but just delivered in a monosyllabic tone. I thought he was going to bring the "Ed Stone" from the Milliband campaign...
Rachel (forget her surname) - the shadow chancellor was slightly better, Raynor was listenable if only for the humour. Good to see she has put her ginger growler away.

So far - none of the 'leadership' speeches have been up to much. Would have rather had a maths lesson with Dianne Abbott than go through that lost lunchtime hour again.

I presume this is another made up "friend."

You were found out on another thread lying in this manner.

Off you trot soft lad.
11-10-23, 06:21
Robin Friday's Ghost

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I think all Starmer and Labour need to do to win the next election is not **** anything up too dramatically. Starmer is perfect for that role as he's very beige. Will Labour do anything noteworthy in office? Probably not but that doesn't seem to be the main reason most people seem likely to vote for them. If they have as their election slogan "We're not the Tories" that should do the trick. Of course, Sunak could pull something out of the hat over the next year or so but it seems unlikely after their performance up to now.
11-10-23, 07:44
pipster

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Originally Posted by Claude Blue

I presume this is another made up "friend."

You were found out on another thread lying in this manner.

Off you trot soft lad.

Johnny, went to Cardiff High, barrister then QC (KC) now doing well for himself at the court martial service, lives in London, moving back to Cardiff when he retires in a year or so, not that you needed to know any of that.
11-10-23, 09:01
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by pipster

Johnny, went to Cardiff High, barrister then QC (KC) now doing well for himself at the court martial service, lives in London, moving back to Cardiff when he retires in a year or so, not that you needed to know any of that.

A barrister named Johnny? Are you getting him mixed up with a barista?
11-10-23, 09:05
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

I think all Starmer and Labour need to do to win the next election is not **** anything up too dramatically. Starmer is perfect for that role as he's very beige. Will Labour do anything noteworthy in office? Probably not but that doesn't seem to be the main reason most people seem likely to vote for them. If they have as their election slogan "We're not the Tories" that should do the trick. Of course, Sunak could pull something out of the hat over the next year or so but it seems unlikely after their performance up to now.

I wish he would get rid of annalise dodds , Angela raynor , wes streeting or at least shut them up till after the election
11-10-23, 09:07
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I wish he would get rid of annalise dodds , Angela raynor , wes streeting or at least shut them up till after the election

I agree about Dodds and Streeting but I like Angela; she's easy on the eye.
11-10-23, 09:18
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I agree about Dodds and Streeting but I like Angela; she's easy on the eye.

It's sad that modern politics is so much about presentation

But it is and streeting and dodds are hopeless

And starmer too let's be honest
11-10-23, 09:18
Claude Blue

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Originally Posted by pipster

Johnny, went to Cardiff High, barrister then QC (KC) now doing well for himself at the court martial service, lives in London, moving back to Cardiff when he retires in a year or so, not that you needed to know any of that.

Phew, glad you cleared that up :hehe:
11-10-23, 09:21
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It's sad that modern politics is so much about presentation

But it is and streeting and dodds are hopeless

And starmer too let's be honest

Agree, I'm absolutely no Starmer fan.
11-10-23, 13:54
TWGL1

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Seems a nice chap :hehe:

https://x.com/marchermedia1/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
11-10-23, 13:58
jon1959

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Seems a nice chap :hehe:

https://x.com/marchermedia1/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

It’s fake.
11-10-23, 14:17
Robin Friday's Ghost

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It’s fake.

Not claiming it isn't but how do you know?
11-10-23, 14:20
Robin Friday's Ghost

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By the way, has anyone else noticed the similarities between Starmer's voice and Frank Sidebottom's?
11-10-23, 14:54
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

Not claiming it isn't but how do you know?

https://fullfact.org/news/keir-starmer-audio-swearing/

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/k...-b2426578.html

https://therecord.media/keir-starmer...media-deepfake
11-10-23, 15:50
TWGL1

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

https://fullfact.org/news/keir-starmer-audio-swearing/

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/k...-b2426578.html

https://therecord.media/keir-starmer...media-deepfake

I think after reading that article I would prefer it to be real.

It could be though , who knows these days , depends how good his PR team is.

“ Ah it’s not him it’s AI guv”

“Ok, we will run with that , it’s bound to stick”

https://x.com/marchermedia1/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
11-10-23, 18:13
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

By the way, has anyone else noticed the similarities between Starmer's voice and Frank Sidebottom's?

Frank Sidebottom was a mancunian
11-10-23, 18:13
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Seems a nice chap :hehe:

https://x.com/marchermedia1/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

Is this a Internet joke ?
12-10-23, 07:14
Robin Friday's Ghost

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It's quite worrying if it's fake. Could be the new Zinoviev Letter come election time.
12-10-23, 07:20
pipster

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

It's quite worrying if it's fake. Could be the new Zinoviev Letter come election time.

It could be anyone that just happens to be equally as boring with that sort of accent. Being glittered was the highlight of his presentation, I though his hair looked lovely and sparkly , not so sure of the glitter hands though.
12-10-23, 07:21
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

It's quite worrying if it's fake. Could be the new Zinoviev Letter come election time.

Starmers voice is fake ?

Or Radio Timperley ?
12-10-23, 07:25
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by pipster

It could be anyone that just happens to be equally as boring with that sort of accent. Being glittered was the highlight of his presentation, I though his hair looked lovely and sparkly , not so sure of the glitter hands though.

Sometimes, it can be pathetic reading the Tories on here lately can't it - they have to ignore mountains of scandal, ineptitude, corruption and flip flopping by their party to come back in retaliation with stuff like this.
12-10-23, 07:28
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Sometimes, it can be pathetic reading the Tories on here lately can't it - they have to ignore mountains of scandal, ineptitude, corruption and flip flopping by their party to come back in retaliation with stuff like this.

I think it was probably a light hearted comment not to be taken seriously Bob.

I'm sure he didn't mean the criticisms of the Dear Leader

(That's also a light-hearted comment not to be taken seriously btw!)
12-10-23, 08:19
pipster

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Sometimes, it can be pathetic reading the Tories on here lately can't it - they have to ignore mountains of scandal, ineptitude, corruption and flip flopping by their party to come back in retaliation with stuff like this.

Why dont you have a go and sort out the Israel / Gaza problem ?
For the avoidance of doubt Bobsy - 13 years in power by one party is too long ( in my opinion) - 26 years in power by 1 party is just bad for democracy and the country.
12-10-23, 08:33
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by pipster

Why dont you have a go and sort out the Israel / Gaza problem ?
For the avoidance of doubt Bobsy - 13 years in power by one party is too long ( in my opinion) - 26 years in power by 1 party is just bad for democracy and the country.

Not that it makes any difference up here, but I can't see me voting Labour in the next WAG election, who will you be voting for in the next UK election?
12-10-23, 08:47
pipster

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Uk election - I wait and see what's in the manifesto usually. In 97 I'd had enough of Major and the continual sleeze - so voted for Tony.
That went well for a bit - until you realise that Gordon had used PFI to fund the massive spending and silly interest rates, Iraq was the end for me (a good friend was killed on Tony's lie)
To answer your question - in Cardiff west, Brennan has a massive majority - so it doesnt matter - he will get in. But as it stands - I dont want to vote for any of them - but possibly Libs.
At the WAGs - it will be anyone but Labour - 26 years of one party in power is so bad. But there is a red belt in the valleys that will always vote Labour back in - so Drakeford can basically do whatever he wants.
12-10-23, 09:25
lardy

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

It's quite worrying if it's fake. Could be the new Zinoviev Letter come election time.

This is going to happen a lot, and with fake video too. In no time, it will be impossible to tell the difference.
13-10-23, 19:00
TWGL1

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Originally Posted by lardy

This is going to happen a lot, and with fake video too. In no time, it will be impossible to tell the difference.

They have been using fake videos news and AI for years though nice to see people seeing through the gutter press.(finally)

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