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Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
Wasting millions on 20 mph, whilst the nation suffers
https://apple.news/A0ojwf8vEQtmx1zgKUHIf_Q
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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BLUETIT
Not a priority for him is it, he prioritises 20mph and don't drive five miles.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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North Cardiff Blue
Not a priority for him is it, he prioritises 20mph and don't drive five miles.
He doesn't drive at all - never has done..
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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A Quiet Monkfish
He doesn't drive at all - never has done..
Too drunk maybe.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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BLUETIT
Give it a rest.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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xsnaggle
Too drunk maybe.
It's not easy to learn people with no basic skills or common sense often struggle.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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xsnaggle
Too drunk maybe.
A small sherry on special occasions, more likely.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
Not to mention bl00dy cycle lanes!
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Weird how we didn't have these issues 13 years ago eh.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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BLUETIT
I would firstly like to say I think the 20 mph policy is daft and I really would like Drakeford to take a long hike as I think he's hopeless
That being said cock ups and money wasting happen in government and people suffer all the time
Even in England where you lot go on and on about how crap the Welsh NHS is
Well in England if you have a particularly severe form of prostate cancer you cannot get the medication needed to prolong your life and many chaps of our age over the border die or need to spend thousands of pounds just to get a few extra years
In Wales and Scotland these drugs are widely available and funded
Imagine that eh ?!
Bloody Welsh Labour
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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BLUETIT
The English NHS
Wasting BILLIONS on protective equipment made by their tory mates during covid which proves to be utterly useless
Isn't it
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I would firstly like to say I think the 20 mph policy is daft and I really would like Drakeford to take a long hike as I think he's hopeless
That being said cock ups and money wasting happen in government and people suffer all the time
Even in England where you lot go on and on about how crap the Welsh NHS is
Well in England if you have a particularly severe form of prostate cancer you cannot get the medication needed to prolong your life and many chaps of our age over the border die or need to spend thousands of pounds just to get a few extra years
In Wales and Scotland these drugs are widely available and funded
Imagine that eh ?!
Bloody Welsh Labour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67065504
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I didn't see people protesting against Mark Drakeford's free school meals for primary kids.
Don't get that in England , and i know from speaking to a number of parents that this is saving them a fortune.
Yet people protest about going a few miles slower to save accidents and lives.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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North Cardiff Blue
It's not easy to learn people with no basic skills or common sense often struggle.
Its difficult for alcoholics to stay clean enough to pass too. (Allegedly)
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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Former Labour leader
I didn't see people protesting against Mark Drakeford's free school meals for primary kids.
Don't get that in England , and i know from speaking to a number of parents that this is saving them a fortune.
Yet people protest about going a few miles slower to save accidents and lives.
All those free prescriptions are a bugger as well.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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the other bob wilson
All those free prescriptions are a bugger as well.
Exactly Bob. Quite a few on here benefit from that policy, particularly the oldies.
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It's a shame that the 400k+ signatories to a petition about how fast they can drive, don't feel as passionate about the NHS.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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Former Labour leader
I didn't see people protesting against Mark Drakeford's free school meals for primary kids.
Don't get that in England , and i know from speaking to a number of parents that this is saving them a fortune.
Yet people protest about going a few miles slower to save accidents and lives.
Free school meals for all school children is a Plaid Cymru policy that Labour was forced to accept, adopt and vote into law in order to have Plaid’s support to govern the country
https://www.gov.wales/25m-kick-start...children-wales
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
The irony is that everyone focuses on the NHS which has just been handed significant funding in the latest funding review but that is not the only focus - the heart of the issue is social care which leads to the wrong people being cared for in the wrong place leading to blocked beds due to a lack of capacity in the community where a lot of people can/could be cared for if attention and resources were given to that
Successive governments ignore this and continue to bail out the NHS when they overspend when social care has faced nearly two decades of austerity and the huge impact Brexit has had on the workforce and the foundation economy generally
Until this is dealt with as an integrated issue between health and social care then nothing will change and it will get worse
It is estimated that the older population will grow by 40% over the next 20 years and yet the younger population will drop by 19% many of whom will not accept the pay and conditions of a social care worker so if it is bad now it is only going to get worse so more and more pressure will be put on the NHS but even more so families to become unpaid carers impacting on their ability to work and therefore contribute fully to the economy
This isn't a labour Tory issue this is a politics issue of all colours and a real ignorance as to the issues and a willingness not to listen as it is no different here as it is in England or Scotland
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Former Labour leader
Exactly Bob. Quite a few on here benefit from that policy, particularly the oldies.
Yes but they’re all frustrated Lewis Hamiltons
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jon1959
So the NHS in England is like this .....get advanced prostate cancer and we can't help
Unless you have a few grand
Bloody Drakeford
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
So the NHS in England is like this .....get advanced prostate cancer and we can't help
Unless you have a few grand
Bloody Drakeford
I think that example alone should make everyone in Wales rush out and shake Mr Drakefords hand. We have a lot to be thankful for in Wales.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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The Bloop
It's a shame that the 400k+ signatories to a petition about how fast they can drive, don't feel as passionate about the NHS.
As an outsider looking into Wales it does seem remarkable that over the last few years rights/freedom/privacy have been chipped away at quite substantially (mostly at the UK level) and the one thing that motivates people to care is making them drive a bit slower in a few places. Similar to ulez changing the course of the by-election in Uxbridge I suppose.
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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Eric Cartman
As an outsider looking into Wales it does seem remarkable that over the last few years rights/freedom/privacy have been chipped away at quite substantially (mostly at the UK level) and the one thing that motivates people to care is making them drive a bit slower in a few places. Similar to ulez changing the course of the by-election in Uxbridge I suppose.
You don’t need much of a brain to get worked up about driving at speed. Other more serious effects on life such as underfunding health and economic inequality takes a bit more intelligence.
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Dave Blue
You don’t need much of a brain to get worked up about driving at speed. Other more serious effects on life such as underfunding health and economic inequality takes a bit more intelligence.
I agree with you here, but it’s an acceptable “current thing” to get worked up about. I’m actually getting used to it now and can see some benefits to it especially being a cyclist as well as a car driver.
It’s a shame the majority who probably kicked off about the 20mph simply accepted the same governments freedom busting Covid diktats - most of which had have less an impact (nil) on saving lives than the 20 mph ones.
(Minimal)
Crazy
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TWGL1
I agree with you here, but it’s an acceptable “current thing” to get worked up about. I’m actually getting used to it now and can see some benefits to it especially being a cyclist as well as a car driver.
It’s a shame the majority who probably kicked off about the 20mph simply accepted the same governments freedom busting Covid diktats - most of which had have less an impact (nil) on saving lives than the 20 mph ones.
(Minimal)
Crazy
I agree I don't understand why they don't disparage the UK government for the tardiness in introducing lockdown and the general cluster**** of the whole COVID management. While at the same time not praising the Welsh government for a much more effective strategy.
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Dorcus
I agree I don't understand why they don't disparage the UK government for the tardiness in introducing lockdown and the general cluster**** of the whole COVID management. While at the same time not praising the Welsh government for a much more effective strategy.
Effective strateg:hehe:- this is what hardworking folk are up against :hehe:
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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Dorcus
I agree I don't understand why they don't disparage the UK government for the tardiness in introducing lockdown and the general cluster**** of the whole COVID management. While at the same time not praising the Welsh government for a much more effective strategy.
I sometimes wonder if you are just trying to get a rise 🤣
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Re: Here in Wales, roadsigns or life & death ?
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Dave Blue
You don’t need much of a brain to get worked up about driving at speed. Other more serious effects on life such as underfunding health and economic inequality takes a bit more intelligence.
How people get about is absolutely critical to an economy and society. Slowing everything down has big impacts and that's why some people are pissed off
Others are just pissed off at the annoying nature of it. It's just irritating. Taking your kids to school or whatever and missing a green light cos someone was pootling along..it's a micro stress but they add.
For others it's just a figurehead policy for what they perceive as the general uselessness of the Welsh Govt. There are so many things that need sorting. This wasnt one of them. When it's then implemented in a top-down manner that many ivew as arrogant, it's understandable that many will be pissed off.
The good news is that those people are still able to be worry about other things. Seeing as you are talking about it, perhaps true intelligence is the ability to think about more than one thing at once.
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JamesWales
I sometimes wonder if you are just trying to get a rise 🤣
No I don't need Viagra thanks 👍
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Dorcus
No I don't need Viagra thanks 👍
It's actually magic stuff if you need it or not btw.
Even those who don't need it would be wise to try it!
Just some friendly advice from brother to brother!
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JamesWales
It's actually magic stuff if you need it or not btw.
Even those who don't need it would be wise to try it!
Just some friendly advice from brother to brother!
Thanks I might well do that. I've been taping a lollipop stick to it for ages cos I'm a tight bugger.