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just a heads up for those going to the game from the west and the east on the M4 this saturday there is a planned M4 20mph protest
Not sure exactly what time this is planned but plan ahead if going to the game coming either way
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ow-m4-weekend/
Surely that is highly dangerous ffs why didn't they protest when it was announced in the manifestoQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Given the max speed I doubt anyone would notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
Fair play anyone taking part in that has reached new heights of complete and utter loser behaviour.
Get a hobby ffs.
Be about ten dawdling cars, people huff and puff but when it comes to the crunch they’re, “I would have been there but……….”
The last protest was quite significant the traffic was slow for about 4 junctions west bound I was driving in the opposite direction and initially thought there was a traffic accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
There was a hell of a lot more than ten cars last time and this one is bringing people over from the other side of the bridge and is combined with a ULEZ protest. It has also been better planned and advertised and is travelling from both directions at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Another one who thinks 465000 people are idiots. Plus what did it actually say in the manifesto ? It certainly didn't say that we would end up with the shambles that we have got and that it would adversely affect peoples lives and businesses in the way that it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
At least the people taking part have the courage of their convictions, unlike people like you who just sit on the sidelines carping. I would think that the fact that 465000 people (or utter losers in your world) have signed the petition might have also given you a clue that you might be in a severe minority with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
Have been hoping to able to do it for years, and got the train today :hehe: to try out the commute, Alarm at 05.30 :frown: 06.20 train from High Level, in the office having a cuppa by 07.45, 16.55 train home having tea at 18.10, when its raining and windy I'll use the car, other than that, will be the choo choo, no M4, No Corryton roundabout, No. merge in pal :hehe: £9.0 sovs a day but it does cost me 3 sovs a day to park when taking car so little bit more expensive but not deal breaking. and stress free if the fkin drivers don't decide to strike again :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Of course you feel the same for 'Just Stop Oil' or 'Extinction Rebellion' ctivists who may undertake similar measures?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
You taking part?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Another massive damp squib no doubt. These people need to be places, and quickly.
I hope Drakeford makes a law that The M4 speed limit is 20mph-Just for this weekend. They'll all be going 70 if he does that.
What a great idea, protest about new lower speed limits by driving slowly when you dint need to! Idiots.
Was planning to attend the game from over the bridge but might give it a miss because of this. Train would be an option for any other game but it’ll be full of Worzels on Saturday!
Okay where did I call people idiots - you love picking a fight don't youQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Tell you what why don't you look up the manifesto for yourself and enjoy your 20mph crawl on Saturday as I assume you are joining in - me I'm catching the train to watch the football and spend sometime with mates
Reading not your strong point? My response was to the people protesting by slowing down on the motorway, not any petition.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
As it goes I don't think the people who have signed the petition are losers, rather, entitled morons.
Also 465000 is still a minority of the Welsh population.
Hope that clears things up for you :thumbup:
Like the good socialist he is - Drakeford lives on Cathedral road (aka Millionaires row)
They should do a demo on Cathedral road, the problem is - his mate, Labour councillor - Caro Wild has just spent £1,000,000 on a bus lane (that saves 30 seconds bus time) whilst at the same time causes traffic jams on Cathedral road and more air pollution. As well as removing available parking outside peoples homes - the bus lane is an absolute success at the Senedd - as they all pat Drakey on the back for saving 30 seconds (and saving the planet as well - obviously)
Gave the Rotherham game a swerve I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I only really get to drive, or even be in a car that isn’t a taxi, when I’m back in Wales. Last time doing so was not too soon after the 20mph change came in. Can only speak from my limited and personal experience of course but the effect felt pretty limited for me, mainly having to be a bit slower and a bit more considerate in built up areas.
The protest does have the feel of something almost performance art or Monty Python-esque about it. Safety concerns aside, as long as it’s peaceful civil disobedience then protest away I guess.
I imagine if Cathedral road is busy, it'll save buses much more than 30 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Some will disagree here, but there's no way the rate of road building can match the increasing number of cars on the road, meaning roads get clogged up. There has to be other options instead of just building more roads, particuarly where it's impossible to do so.
People moan that public transport isn't good enough to leave the car at home, yet those same people moan when public transport priority measures are implemented.
Living in England I don't have much of a dog in this fight but it it quite amusing watching people concurrently whinging about a speed limit restriction that slows twenty people in cars by 30 seconds then about 20 or so people on a bus going 30 seconds quicker down a similar street!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
How dare public transport offer a viable alternative!Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
This reads rather like a riddle and I'm not sure I get it! 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
People taking direct action against climate change ? ........dirty , filthy communist scum
A similar sort of protest against traffic measures and drakeford and his socialist bunch ? .......heroes !! .......where do I sign ?
No he thinks they are commie scumQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Even if all the 465k signatories lived in Wales they wouldn't be a majority, and seeing as anyone in world can sign those things there are many people not even resident in the principality. What is a severe minority anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Problem is any of the protestors, or people that disagree with the speed limits are about voters, and they will still vote labour.
I think the whole debacle has hot Welsh Labour a bit tbh. There was a poll on walesonline a few weeks back.Quote:
Originally Posted by cityhammer
The last time 465,000 people were considered a majority in Wales was about 200 years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
The world is falling apart and these people are protesting a 20mph speed limit. I despair.
Absolute fek witsQuote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Nailed it there. Morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
What a daft comment. Who reads manifestos other than political journalists? You certainly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep
Been trying to think of another protest where the protestors do what they’re protesting about
Hope it’s not the start of something
Just stop oil idling 4x4s outside schools
NSPCC drowning kids in Barry island
RSPCA stringing up hamsters in Trafalgar Square
It’d be comical if they didn’t have potential to cause a pile up of people just going about their daily lives
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Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
How fast/slow, can tractors go, as there might be a few on the motorway on Saturday ?
How is that a daft comment and how do you know I didn't read themQuote:
Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost
I'm not on social media such as Twitter etc so where I am going to get my information from in who to vote for
Also part of my job relies on me being up to date on political intentions
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by superfeathers
It's an odd protest but unless I'm mistaken the last one didnt actually slow people down (unlike what they are protesting about) or stop people going about their lives (unlike what Just Stop Oil, who others have mentioned do). So it doesn't seem worth people getting too upset about.
What do the police say about it?