Inflation down to 4.6 per cent.
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Inflation down to 4.6 per cent.
The drop is all about falling energy prices and a sharp reduction in food price inflation.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It’s get bugger all to do with The Tory’s, but watch them try and take the credit.
It was the one of Rishi's 5 pledges that was almost out of his, and his party's, control anyway.
It's a bad day for those saying that wage rises cause inflation given the recently announced wage figures.
I have noticed a few things getting noticeably cheaper in the supermarket. I don't know about anyone else but inflation definitely forced me to live a lot healthier.
I'd imagine the energy portion will drag now for a few months as the price of natural gas has been steadily rising from its lows of spring/early summer.
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Originally Posted by ninian opinian
All their fault when it went up of course.
So if we all had 2k week extra in our pockets and at the end of the month we all decided to buy an 8k car. Seeing as demand would out strip supply - what do you think the car dealer would advertise his 8k car for the following month ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I haven't seen anybody say it was, I am probably not on this board as much as you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Is that meant to be an intelligent question?Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
You wouldn't have enough, you would be £6K short?Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Bank Of England ......nothing to do with the tory filth and that's exactly what economic commentators are saying and have been saying
Unless your name is JamesWales
Who clearly isn't as bright as he thinks he is
Anyone on here could easily claim it was down to us. I’m so glad my target to halve inflation has been such a success. You watch those Tory gits trying to take my credit.
Thanks Dave. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
What a complete distortion of reality. If you read threads more instead of steaming into them screaming things like 'Toey filth' you would realise that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I've constantly made the point that inflation and the cost of living issue is global and cyclical. This is evidenced by every western country seeing big spikes in inflation and every western country seeing it now fall.
The govt didn't cause the rise in inflation and it isn't behind the fall. An argument can be made that it did some things to not make the matter worse, but the fall was always going to happen - I've said that from the start.
Why would Rishi make halving inflation one of his 5 pledges, if he couldn't control it anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
For exactly the same reason that the opposition blamed them for inflation even though they were very little to do with it. Cos that's politics, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
It could have been different. We could have had some honesty from when inflation started rising after Covid, but party's will always play political games won't they.
Hmmmm! :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
What things? I lived through inflation in the 1970's and most costs did not come down again, certainly not back to the previous norms. I suspect the same will happen this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Are you still a conservative Christian?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
It's entirely you perogative but I think the two are not able to fit together
Christians wether I believe in God or not and we know I don't.....are generally kind , sharing people
Conservatives ? ......well its all about the dollar
I would be interested in your views , the local churches seem full of torys , I find it odd and disconcerting
Sludge - I'm not sure if I dare respond to this, lest I be accused of hijacking another thread! I can easily, but what do you think? Is it a genuine enquiry or a wind up?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
As a Christian the Tories seem to read a different bible than I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I would rather you don't reply if you feel it might engage you in on line joustingQuote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
You can always pm me
A lot of the old school one nation Tories like John major who were decent enough even though they were tories were raving church goersQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I just can't see how the Conservative mantra of the individual and no such thing as society , benefit cuts , privatisation ......are what Jesus would have wanted ?
The Christian element of the Tories are those that donate to, or volunteer at food banks, for those who can't afford to buy food, or those who facilitate warm hubs for those who cant afford to heat their own homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
So basically they vote for their government to cut benefits and make people struggleQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
And then to get closer to God they deliver food parcels to the people they have directly driven into poverty by voting Conservative
Praise the Lord !
Yeah because a party in power for 13+ years has no control over where our energy comes from does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Rampant short term-ism cripples the country once again.
I seriously doubt it’s many of them. They are too busy voting for action that causes this problem. They only think of themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
OK, no problem, I'm no shrinking violet, so here we go.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Can I say upfront that unfortunately you tend to generalise about folk e.g. Christians are gullible and intellectually retarded people, Tories are greedy and rob the poor, whilst Socialists are all wonderful altruistic people. BTW I don't know why you describe me as a Conservative Christian!
I guess in general Jesus viewed wealth and poverty in a non-discriminatory manner. There are so many references about Jesus and his attitude to poverty and wealth – too many to list here. Try Google-ing the subject. Clearly he stood up for the poor and he was despised by the ruling class in his day because he mainly associated with them, so in that sense he was a socialist.
Basically he warns those who are wealthy that they have an important responsibility to give to the poor and that if they are not careful, their riches can lead them into evil ways (the love of money is the root of all evil etc – note: not money per se though). I'm sure there are rich Labour supporters as well as rich Tory supporters, so his words would apply to everybody.
All the Christians I know personally, are, as you say, kind and generous people. The majority of food banks are run by churches for example. I have no idea what proportion of church members are Tories or of any other political party, it's not something that I have thought about particularly. As far as I am concerned we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
Jesus said about true Christians: You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. (Matthew 7 v16) so their political allegiance should be irrelevant. The Christians I know do the things they do in support of others because of their love for Jesus and their desire to share the love that Jesus had for people, and not for scoring brownie points or public accolade. Of course giving money is often the easiest thing to do – giving of your time to help others is another thing all together. I guess this is where I fit. I am not wealthy by UK standards but a millionaire compared to the little boy we sponsor in Kenya. Hence a lot of my time is spent as a volunteer in various Christian-based activities. (I won't list them here as it will appear boastful but pm me if you are interested).
I don't know why your local churches appear to be “full of Tories”. I would have to ask how you know that? I would simply say look at the way they act and that should speak for itself. Maybe you should go along to one of the churches and see what sort of welcome you get there – that is the litmus test in my experience.
Having said all that we Christians are not perfect, far from it, and, most importantly we know it too! (For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. Ref: Romans 3: 23-24).
I know the people who used to go to the local protestant and Catholic churches , you would often see them on their way to mass on a Sunday morning and they were mostly well known local conservative typesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Tories have always been very well represented in churches on a Sunday , the local food banks and charity shops have plenty of conservative voters working in them
I think it's pretty ironic that conservatives will vote for a party that really doesn't fund the welfare state adequately , screws the adult care system and has people in power that get praised for kicking the homeless in the teeth ......braverman saying the conservatives have always cared for genuinely homeless people is utterly outrageous ......so contribute to these problems .......and then go and work in food banks or go on charity fundraising events for mental health services .......the same services that have been decimated by the conservative government
I suppose God loves everyone but if I was God I would tell conservatives attending church to look in the mirror when they want to be good and help the poor .....and come back when they want to vote for the sort of society Jesus wanted
So do you think then that Tory-voting Christians volunteer in food banks just out of a sense of guilt for what their government does?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
They probably mean well but to me it’s a total contradiction to support a party that favours rich people over poor and tries to demonise the most vulnerable. It’s great to help in such ways but there’s obviously no mental connection between this and their political views as they are complete opposites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
No I don't think most of them have a clue of the irony of the situationQuote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
I think most of them are bored and if they were told that voting conservative is leading to food banks they would be completely horrified or look at me as if I was speaking in tounges
I think there is either not a lot going on upstairs or they know the score and are just boredQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
One of my mothers friends was such a wet tory , nice enough , always out collecting for Christian Aid but either no idea or very aware but it was all a cover
Is this bloke right?
https://youtu.be/pbUZFssO-ZE?si=pJYNRf0K7Nsp4L2k
I don't think it matters anymore. A year ago maybe sunak would have been able to gain political capital and a few points in the polls from spinning something like this as a personal success. It now just seems like every day people drop away, polls get worse and by not calling an election they are just poisoning the brand more and more.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I don't think there is long left to this now, consistent polling below or around the 20 mark is going to heap so much pressure. If they ended up there in a general election (usual caveats of shy Tories, campaign bounce etc.) it would make corbyn's loss look like a success.
I was thinking a may election looked likely when it was 8/1, it's now about 3/1. I can't see how a November election works, on the back of a summer of boat crossings and what are likely to be awful council elections in may. Might be wishful thinking though.