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10 point deduction for Everton
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Unlike the last few seasons, I think they’ll be able to cope with a ten point deduction this time around in the unlikely event of any appeal failing.
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Originally Posted by
JumpersforGoalposts
I think Dyche can still keep them up, mainly because there's so many poor sides at the bottom.
Hopefully, next, they deduct Man City points
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I would love to see them relegated
They were the main instigators of the Premier league the greedy gits
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They always pick on the small clubs :wave:
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NinianOpinion1927
I think Dyche can still keep them up, mainly because there's so many poor sides at the bottom.
Hopefully, next, they deduct Man City points
He may well keep them up but I certainly hopes he doesn't
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He may well keep them up but I certainly hopes he doesn't
Spoke like a true Liverpool fan. You can’t hide it forever Sludgey.
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Everton have a cracking looking stadium being built. The huge terrace behind the goal looks to have a really steep incline, making the fans feel like they're on top of the pitch.
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William Treseder
Spoke like a true Liverpool fan. You can’t hide it forever Sludgey.
I would relegate all the big clubs if I was in charge
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But then we'd get promoted to the Premier league and y0u'd have to start slagging us off! Oh hang on............:shrug:
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JumpersforGoalposts
Wouldn't happen to ManU, Man Citeh, Liverpool or Chelsea, they can do whatever they like.
Even with the ten points deduction they can still easily pass Sheff, Luton and Bournemouth and probably quite a few more. They've won three and drawn one of the last five, they are finding form.
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It's almost as if they waited til huge club Everton stabilised on the football field before taking action.
That would mean that the league is corrupt though so shirley not :sherlock:
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I think they’ll appeal and they will aim to drag every other club, they can get any figures on, into the argument. Citeh and Chelsea being the two most prominent
This could go off like the holy hand grenade of Antioch
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Originally Posted by
light up the darkness
I think they’ll appeal and they will aim to drag every other club, they can get any figures on, into the argument. Citeh and Chelsea being the two most prominent
This could go off like the holy hand grenade of Antioch
Man City are already in trouble. Everton had one charge or transgression to face. Man City are facing over 100 charges of rule breaking.
If guilty, Man City have to be relegated and possibly have their titles retrospectively taken away.
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Originally Posted by
NinianOpinion1927
Man City are already in trouble. Everton had one charge or transgression to face. Man City are facing over 100 charges of rule breaking.
If guilty, Man City have to be relegated and possibly have their titles retrospectively taken away.
The Citeh case backed by big Saudi money will not be easily resolved
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NinianOpinion1927
Man City are already in trouble. Everton had one charge or transgression to face. Man City are facing over 100 charges of rule breaking.
If guilty, Man City have to be relegated and possibly have their titles retrospectively taken away.
Followed by Liverpool, United and the rest , the whole thing is rotten
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NinianOpinion1927
Man City are already in trouble. Everton had one charge or transgression to face. Man City are facing over 100 charges of rule breaking.
If guilty, Man City have to be relegated and possibly have their titles retrospectively taken away.
For Man City though, give their vast expanse of riches relegation simply isn't enough. Relegation and barred from re-entry to the Premier League or Europe for a good 5 years would be fitting. They'd lose their squad over night, that is then a punishment.
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Everton have avoided relegation while breaking financial rules. Man City and Chelsea have won English and European Championships. Are their titles going to be rescinded? Will there be an asterisk next to their name in the history books? Probably not.
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NYCBlue
Everton have avoided relegation while breaking financial rules. Man City and Chelsea have won English and European Championships. Are their titles going to be rescinded? Will there be an asterisk next to their name in the history books? Probably not.
It's happened before with Marseille and Juventus. But chances are - nope.
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light up the darkness
The Citeh case backed by big Saudi money will not be easily resolved
Exactly, they’ll just get a rap on the knuckles.
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I reckon they’re all at it, clubs wary of blowing the whistle on others due to their own indiscretions. We did so well in the transfer market recently despite being under an embargo yet it seems as though not one rival has raised a question. It’s been alluded to on this thread that Everton are quite capable this season of escaping, unlike previous seasons, it may be that the eventual outcome of the points deduction is no more than a rap on the knuckles.
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light up the darkness
The Citeh case backed by big Saudi money will not be easily resolved
They're owners are UAE not KSA 😌
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Madassa
They're owners are UAE not KSA
Apologies for the error. My bad. UAE money it is tgen
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splott parker
I reckon they’re all at it, clubs wary of blowing the whistle on others due to their own indiscretions. We did so well in the transfer market recently despite being under an embargo yet it seems as though not one rival has raised a question. It’s been alluded to on this thread that Everton are quite capable this season of escaping, unlike previous seasons, it may be that the eventual outcome of the points deduction is no more than a rap on the knuckles.
But I just read they may get another 7 points added to the 10. Tat'll scupper them
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xsnaggle
But I just read they may get another 7 points added to the 10. Tat'll scupper them
If that happens they're down
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I would relegate all the big clubs if I was in charge
Change the record it's getting boring now.
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Alan Lung
Change the record it's getting boring now.
And I would shoot you
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Alan Lung
Change the record it's getting boring now.
Quite
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Originally Posted by
NinianOpinion1927
Man City are already in trouble. Everton had one charge or transgression to face. Man City are facing over 100 charges of rule breaking.
If guilty, Man City have to be relegated and possibly have their titles retrospectively taken away.
Exactly. i think the people complaining that little Everton are being hit, but the bigger cubs get away with it, are missing the point of the penalty. They've hit Everton hard for a single offence, so when Man City are found guilty, and eventually they will be, there is precedent in place. Man City will get truly screwed, I expect a relegation and stripping of EPL titles.
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J R Hartley
Quite
Shut up merfur
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cityhammer
Exactly. i think the people complaining that little Everton are being hit, but the bigger cubs get away with it, are missing the point of the penalty. They've hit Everton hard for a single offence, so when Man City are found guilty, and eventually they will be, there is precedent in place. Man City will get truly screwed, I expect a relegation and stripping of EPL titles.
That would be great
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SLUDGE FACTORY
That would be great
And when the same clubs win promotion next year what are you going to do? Relegate them again? And again? And again?
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the other bob wilson
Exactly, they’ll just get a rap on the knuckles.
Or more likely a bit of finger-wagging
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cityhammer
Exactly. i think the people complaining that little Everton are being hit, but the bigger cubs get away with it, are missing the point of the penalty. They've hit Everton hard for a single offence, so when Man City are found guilty, and eventually they will be, there is precedent in place. Man City will get truly screwed, I expect a relegation and stripping of EPL titles.
Not necessarily. The charges against Man City and Chelsea are of a different nature, so it's not like for like.
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I find it laughable that Everton's defence was Daniel Levy drove a hard bargain and got Richarlison for £20m less than they wanted. Sounds like Everton need a better transfer negotiator
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PontBlue
I find it laughable that Everton's defence was Daniel Levy drove a hard bargain and got Richarlison for £20m less than they wanted. Sounds like Everton need a better transfer negotiator
Levy is notorious for it
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Another potentially issue is the freedom with which players employed by clubs who are part of a conglomerate (several clubs in different countries owned by the same owners) can just swap clubs on loan.
No fees, no deals, no troublesome agents.
If you are a club that is not part of a conglomerate (and half the clubs in the Premiership are not) how fair is it to be faced with this additional hurdle.
If you want to sign someone on loan and one of your rivals also want him you have no chance.
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light up the darkness
Another potentially issue is the freedom with which players employed by clubs who are part of a conglomerate (several clubs in different countries owned by the same owners) can just swap clubs on loan.
No fees, no deals, no troublesome agents.
If you are a club that is not part of a conglomerate (and half the clubs in the Premiership are not) how fair is it to be faced with this additional hurdle.
If you want to sign someone on loan and one of your rivals also want him you have no chance.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67490620
Newcastle will be able to sign players on loan from sides also controlled by their Saudi owners in January, after a vote by Premier League clubs on a temporary ban on related-party loans did not receive the required support.
Twelve clubs voted in favour of a block on loan moves between teams under the same ownership.
That was two short of the two-thirds majority needed for it to be passed.
The Premier League was understood to be in favour of introducing the ban.
While clubs have been able to sign players on loan from clubs that are under the same ownership for some time, the matter has been heightened by Newcastle being owned by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF) since 2021.
It is understood Newcastle, Manchester City, Chelsea, Sheffield United, Everton, Wolves, Nottingham Forest and Burnley voted against the ban.
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jon1959
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67490620
Newcastle will be able to sign players on loan from sides also controlled by their Saudi owners in January, after a vote by Premier League clubs on a temporary ban on related-party loans did not receive the required support.
Twelve clubs voted in favour of a block on loan moves between teams under the same ownership.
That was two short of the two-thirds majority needed for it to be passed.
The Premier League was understood to be in favour of introducing the ban.
While clubs have been able to sign players on loan from clubs that are under the same ownership for some time, the matter has been heightened by Newcastle being owned by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF) since 2021.
It is understood Newcastle, Manchester City, Chelsea, Sheffield United, Everton, Wolves, Nottingham Forest and Burnley voted against the ban.
I am not surprised by how the big prem clubs look after themselves, to hell with the smaller clubs with one-club owners.
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xsnaggle
And when the same clubs win promotion next year what are you going to do? Relegate them again? And again? And again?
If Everton go down then there is no certainty they will come back up