Todays Talking Point

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23-12-23, 19:56
MOZZER2

Todays Talking Point

Was this is a penalty ? think it is . remember refs have been 85% correct so far this season !

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23-12-23, 19:59
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Todays Talking Point

No , he's looking for that , he's appealing as soon as he is falling

Should be on the stage

Well done ref
23-12-23, 20:00
blue matt

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I know Sludge will be along soon to say he was looking for it,

he is right, the blokes Dived
23-12-23, 20:00
MOZZER2

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No , he's looking for that , he's appealing as soon as he is falling

Should be on the stage

Well done ref

he deffo pulled at his shirt

think we would be screaming for a penalty if the roles were reversed
23-12-23, 20:01
blue matt

Re: Todays Talking Point

:xmashehe::xmashehe::xmashehe:

Sludge even replied before I posted
23-12-23, 20:01
SLUDGE FACTORY

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You can see him rolling his shoulders , it's an unnatural movement

If you get tripped it's an instinctive fall

Dive

No penalty
23-12-23, 20:01
RichardM

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by blue matt

I know Sludge will be along soon to say he was looking for it,

he is right, the blokes Dived

It did look like there was a tug on his shirt though
23-12-23, 20:01
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

he deffo pulled at his shirt

think we would be screaming for a penalty if the roles were reversed

Dive
23-12-23, 20:02
blue matt

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

he deffo pulled at his shirt

think we would be screaming for a penalty if the roles were reversed

I missed the shirt pull, not quite enough to pull him down to the ground, so deffo looking for the pen, but yes, he did pull his shirt, yes its a pen
23-12-23, 20:02
City123

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You can see him rolling his shoulders , it's an unnatural movement

If you get tripped it's an instinctive fall

Dive

No penalty

But he wasn't tripped, he was pulled back

It's a theatrical fall but Goutas definitely pulls his shirt
23-12-23, 20:03
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

he deffo pulled at his shirt

think we would be screaming for a penalty if the roles were reversed

He's shot himself in the foot

His reaction to what may have been a shirt pull has told the ref he was trying to con him

Naughty boy

Well done ref
23-12-23, 20:06
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by City123

But he wasn't tripped, he was pulled back

It's a theatrical fall but Goutas definitely pulls his shirt

Trip or pull .....it doesn't matter .....his unnatural reaction to try and get the penalty made the refs mind up

Well done ref
23-12-23, 20:06
Maurice Swan

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Never a penalty.
23-12-23, 20:07
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by blue matt

I missed the shirt pull, not quite enough to pull him down to the ground, so deffo looking for the pen, but yes, he did pull his shirt, yes its a pen

I think feck him , he was trying to gain an advantage , if he had fell without egging it he would probably have got the pen

Tough luck Wednesday this happens
23-12-23, 20:08
MacAdder

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

he deffo pulled at his shirt

think we would be screaming for a penalty if the roles were reversed

Commentator on Radio Wales thought it should have been a pelanty kick, Ratcliffe thought not.

Agree he did get his shirt tugged slightly but, the question is, was it enough to go down and get a pelanty?
I don't think so personally and we have seen this decision from referee's, quite rightly IMO, a few times recently.

The striker could have brushed that off and scored.
Got what he deserved, feck all.
23-12-23, 20:13
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Commentator on Radio Wales thought it should have been a pelanty kick, Ratcliffe thought not.

Agree he did get his shirt tugged slightly but, the question is, was it enough to go down and get a pelanty?
I don't think so personally and we have seen this decision from referee's, quite rightly IMO, a few times recently.

The striker could have brushed that off and scored.
Got what he deserved, feck all.

I thought it was against the rules to pull someone's shirt?
23-12-23, 20:13
RichardM

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Wasn't there another penalty claim just before or just after that one?
Any videos of that one?
23-12-23, 20:22
olderblue

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I thought it was against the rules to pull someone's shirt?

Just a quick reminder that there are no rules in football, just laws
First thing they taught us when I did a refs course years ago
23-12-23, 20:23
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I thought it was against the rules to pull someone's shirt?

It is but when you go all Premier league and fall over like a ponce it has a tendency to sometimes backfire

Football 1

Diving Tarts 0

We should be celebrating
23-12-23, 20:31
xsnaggle

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concerned about the atrocious spelling in this thread! :xmashehe:
23-12-23, 20:41
Maurice Swan

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Pelanty I take as a joke......Ones that crop up time and time again in ALL message boards/newspaper comments etc are
"should of..." instead of "should have..."
"he was beat at his near post (or wherever)...instead of "beaten..."
23-12-23, 20:47
2b2bdoo

Re: Todays Talking Point

Could have been given, seen some given, seen plenty that haven’t.
23-12-23, 21:10
Dave Blue

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Made the most of it but shirt pull so penalty.
23-12-23, 21:44
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

Made the most of it but shirt pull so penalty.

That's how I see it. Whenever I see a contentious decision that goes for or against us, I tend to think how I'd feel if it happened to the opposite side. If, for example, we get a dodgy penalty, how would I feel if we had conceded one like that?

If that had happened to us at the CCS, where one of our players had had their shirt pulled, even if the fall was a little theatrical, I'd have been raging had we not had a penalty and I suspect most of us would have felt the same.
23-12-23, 21:47
MacAdder

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I thought it was against the rules to pull someone's shirt?

If the referee blew up every time a shirt got pulled there wouldn't be much football at all on show.

This was one of those arbitrary decisions, some will be given, some won't.
Has always been that way and always will be.
23-12-23, 22:04
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

If the referee blew up every time a shirt got pulled there wouldn't be much football at all on show.

This was one of those arbitrary decisions, some will be given, some won't.
Has always been that way and always will be.

Absolutely and I think that's why fans get frustrated. Wednesday fans will be livid, City fans think he's a diving ponce. Neither can be proved 100% right or wrong.

Thankfully we have VAR to iron out any inconcistencies here. :hehe:
23-12-23, 22:05
2b2bdoo

Re: Todays Talking Point

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAdder

If the referee blew up every time a shirt got pulled there wouldn't be much football at all on show.

This was one of those arbitrary decisions, some will be given, some won't.
Has always been that way and always will be.

That one on Etete where he won the ball and the defender just stayed on top of it was a very poor decision, he was whistle happy.
23-12-23, 23:51
MacAdder

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Absolutely and I think that's why fans get frustrated. Wednesday fans will be livid, City fans think he's a diving ponce. Neither can be proved 100% right or wrong.

Thankfully we have VAR to iron out any inconcistencies here. :hehe:

Aye... thank the lord for VAR :angry:
23-12-23, 23:54
MacAdder

Re: Todays Talking Point

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

That one on Etete where he won the ball and the defender just stayed on top of it was a very poor decision, he was whistle happy.

Didn't see it only listened on RWales.
Ratcliffe would agree with you, he was up in arms at the referee's incompetency.
24-12-23, 11:11
fugsyphil

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Only watched it once but never a penalty for me. Once they are more interested in the fall than the ball then it's a no for me.
24-12-23, 11:25
blue matt

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VAR would spot the shirt pull and its a pen

but realistically the guy is already going down as he feels the pull, the pull is back not down and forward

but watching it in slow mo, you can see the point he decides to go down, its very very early
24-12-23, 11:53
splott parker

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It’s as if shirt pulling is accepted by officials as ok. Free kick or pelanty every time in my book. Perhaps the backs of shirts should be attached to the rest of the shirt with Velcro, from under the arm pits. Would be funny a player protesting his innocence whilst holding a rectangle of shirt with a name and number on :xmashehe:
24-12-23, 12:23
fugsyphil

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Today's talking point didn't even get mentioned in the sky 15 mins program in a match sparse of any highlights
24-12-23, 12:37
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Today's talking point didn't even get mentioned in the sky 15 mins program in a match sparse of any highlights

Glad they concentrated on all the free flowing football instead.
24-12-23, 12:38
fugsyphil

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Glad they concentrated on all the free flowing football instead.

Everything they showed had about four replays!!!
24-12-23, 12:39
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Everything they showed had about four replays!!!

:hehe:
24-12-23, 13:03
splott parker

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Everything they showed had about four replays!!!

Aaaah, old FA Cup memories :xmashehe:
24-12-23, 13:12
Alfresco

Re: Todays Talking Point

He dived as soon as he realised he wasn't going to get the ball. So no pelanty . Plus he looked a yard offside.

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