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BBC News - Laura Trott, Chief Secretary to the Treasury falters over 'basic' debt question
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68250372
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Absolute shambles
They say that if you put a red rosette on a donkey some areas of the country will vote Labour
Well clearly the opposite is true if people like this clown are in parliament
I believe it was only Oxford East outside of inner London in the whole of the south east that provided a Labour MP at the last election although I could be wrong
Either way the Tories are surely doomed if this is the best they can offer
An absolute car crash
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Absolute shambles
They say that if you put a red rosette on a donkey some areas of the country will vote Labour
Well clearly the opposite is true if people like this clown are in parliament
I believe it was only Oxford East outside of inner London in the whole of the south east that provided a Labour MP at the last election although I could be wrong
Either way the Tories are surely doomed if this is the best they can offer
An absolute car crash
I really don't know where nor why the Tories dig up these callow numbskulls.
Poor little Laura would have been wiser had she remembered the old adage: "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak up and remove all doubt".
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If you are going to call everyone idiots for voting for any party based on one car-crash interview then you are calling anyone who ever votes for any party in any country an idiot, as there are always examples of this, and yes, this is one. It's a bad interview, albeit about a pretty specific topic
The sad way we consume news now means people probably don't get to see it due to algorithms.
Have you seen some of Bidens recently? Where Is your thread labelling anyone who would vote Democrat an idiot for example?
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Dorcus
I really don't know where nor why the Tories dig up these callow numbskulls.
All of the major parties now vet their candidates at central office level, so I would imagine they are chosen for obedience, and not for intelligence or intuition. It should have been obvious from the pandemic that they are all a bunch of nodding donkeys.
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JamesWales
If you are going to call everyone idiots for voting for any party based on one car-crash interview then you are calling anyone who ever votes for any party in any country an idiot, as there are always examples of this, and yes, this is one. It's a bad interview, albeit about a pretty specific topic
The sad way we consume news now means people probably don't get to see it due to algorithms.
Have you seen some of Bidens recently? Where Is your thread labelling anyone who would vote Democrat an idiot for example?
Some people who vote Tory are far more than just idiots
You for example
I mean even on this you are up to your whataboutery nonsense
You just can't take a punch and go to sleep
On and on you go
It's your MO
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
If you are going to call everyone idiots for voting for any party based on one car-crash interview then you are calling anyone who ever votes for any party in any country an idiot, as there are always examples of this, and yes, this is one. It's a bad interview, albeit about a pretty specific topic
The sad way we consume news now means people probably don't get to see it due to algorithms.
Have you seen some of Bidens recently? Where Is your thread labelling anyone who would vote Democrat an idiot for example?
Given me a chance you soppy twat I have only just posted this one
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Dorcus
I really don't know where nor why the Tories dig up these callow numbskulls.
Poor little Laura would have been wiser had she remembered the old adage: "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak up and remove all doubt".
She tries to get away with it here but fair play to Evan Davies for nailing her
Another tory liar 🤥
Place is full of them
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Some people who vote Tory are far more than just idiots
You for example
I mean even on this you are up to your whataboutery nonsense
You just can't take a punch and go to sleep
On and on you go
It's your MO
Sorry, I'm just trying to work out any logic whatsoever to your thinking, but it seems a pointless exercise.
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JamesWales
Sorry, I'm just trying to work out any logic whatsoever to your thinking, but it seems a pointless exercise.
There is no point... he is a lost cause, wandering the posh streets of the vale looking for a village to house his idiot tendencies.
Dawn Butler - maths not a strong point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCwFLUt6zgE
Here is the beeb trying to help Abbott out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjkvjHn6Qg
Rachel Reeves - lying or is the term Flip / Flopping to conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpiFo6AOpqQ
Just for good measure there is always the almost comical michael howard vs Paxman as well as many others from politicians.
The ultimate laugh is have a watch of Drakeford in action on FMQ's - it's shocking.
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You realise butler and abbot are not in government ?
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JamesWales
Sorry, I'm just trying to work out any logic whatsoever to your thinking, but it seems a pointless exercise.
Pointless Liar 🤥
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No but they are/were in Labour and you voted for Labour you nodding plodder
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You realise butler and abbot are not in government ?
Really oh wow I never knew - thanks for you letting me know.....
Of course I know they are not in Govt you clown.
They were supposed to be on top of their brief in the shadow cabinet, they have since been replaced by equally incompetent idiots. A bit like some of the ones on the benches opposite
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NinianOpinion1927
No but they are/were in Labour and you voted for Labour you nodding plodder
Not heard him called that before :hehe:
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pipster
Not heard him called that before :hehe:
Tory ponce Pipster say hello to Tory ponce Ninian
Tory ponce Ninian say hello to Tory ponce Pipster
You can now start shagging each other at garden parties
You Tory ponces
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Tory ponce Pipster say hello to Tory ponce Ninian
Tory ponce Ninian say hello to Tory ponce Pipster
You can now start shagging each other at garden parties
You Tory ponces
:facepalm: Couldn't find an emoji for "despair".
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pipster
Not heard him called that before :hehe:
Never heard the term before but if the cap fits, he should wear it lol
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What Paul doesnt realise is that I know who he is and there really is less to him that most people think.
He is a left wing fanatic whilst living a sort of right wing life style, good luck to you Evo
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pipster
What Paul doesnt realise is that I know who he is and there really is less to him that most people think.
He is a left wing fanatic whilst living a sort of right wing life style, good luck to you Evo
😆 it made me laugh recently, when he tried to come across as "menacing" with thinly veiled threats towards a certain regular poster on here. About as menacing as lightly toasted bread 🍞 😆
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yeaaaayyyy vote for someone who doesn't know what a woman is ... POW
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pipster
What Paul doesnt realise is that I know who he is and there really is less to him that most people think.
He is a left wing fanatic whilst living a sort of right wing life style, good luck to you Evo
Oh dear
Thank god I moved
Do you work for mossad ?
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NinianOpinion1927
😆 it made me laugh recently, when he tried to come across as "menacing" with thinly veiled threats towards a certain regular poster on here. About as menacing as lightly toasted bread 🍞 😆
Shut up you silly old cttt and get ready for senility
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+ the native hipster
yeaaaayyyy vote for someone who doesn't know what a woman is ... POW
Well sadly for the Tory ponces on here it seems the country is indeed going to vote for him
So hard lines eh
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Shut up you silly old cttt and get ready for senility
😆 clueless
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NinianOpinion1927
😆 clueless
Tory
Cttt
Old
Senile
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Sludge, just checking. Because you think people are idiots for voting for a party because of a bad interview, what is your sweeping statement about anyone who votes for Labour after this sick outburst from their Rochdale candidate?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-68267951
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JamesWales
Sludge, just checking. Because you think people are idiots for voting for a party because of a bad interview, what is your sweeping statement about anyone who votes for Labour after this sick outburst from their Rochdale candidate?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ester-68267951
Anyone voting tory , at any time is an idiot
Period
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Anyone voting tory , at any time is an idiot
Period
You didn't answer the question though!
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JamesWales
You didn't answer the question though!
There was no interview
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SLUDGE FACTORY
There was no interview
Don't be a twart, answer the question.
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Alan Lung
Don't be a twart, answer the question.
The idiot in Rochdale will be dealt with by The Labour Party
laura trott is a front line elected MP and was on another political show a few days later
Fecking mugging you off
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The idiot in Rochdale will be dealt with by The Labour Party
laura trott is a front line elected MP and was on another political show a few days later
Fecking mugging you off
Dealt with? He is still standing on their ticket. A racist conspiracy theorist saying Israel supported the mass murder of its own people.
And you shrug your shoulders at that, and yet go the trouble of labelling people idiots for voting for a party who's MP for confused on the statistics surrounding national debt?!
Surely if there is any logic to your thinking, and if you are happy to label others idiots for the previous example, you would do the same here?
Sludges mask has slipped even further here!
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JamesWales
Dealt with? He is still standing on their ticket. A racist conspiracy theorist saying Israel supported the mass murder of its own people.
And you shrug your shoulders at that, and yet go the trouble of labelling people idiots for voting for a party who's MP for confused on the statistics surrounding national debt?!
Surely if there is any logic to your thinking, and if you are happy to label others idiots for the previous example, you would do the same here?
Sludges mask has slipped even further here!
Labour have got themselves into another fine mess with this situation.
I don't know whether Azhar Ali the Labour candidate is racist - but he has swallowed and repeated a conspiracy theory. It was a conspiracy theory with (as usual for conspiracy theories) some basis in fact. It is a fact that Israeli intelligence got hold of the Hamas attack plan (via Egypt) more than a year before 7 October 2023. It is a fact that elements of the Israeli government and military have been carrying out an escalating campaign of provocation against Palestinians - including all the actions on The Dome of the Rock, ramped up settler violence against people and property on the West Bank, IDF arrests of non-violent protestors and peace activists, language of the sort described as genocidal in the recent ICJ hearings.
It is probable that elements of the Israeli regime wanted to provoke a reaction from Hamas and other Palestinian organisations to justify further ethnic cleansing and moves towards a Greater Israel (from the river to the sea!).
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/w...elligence.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/01/m...ntl/index.html
But the Israeli intelligence services (wrongly) thought Hamas was incapable of carrying out its plan, and that if it made an attempt it would fail. They certainly didn't think Hamas would kill 1200 and kidnap another 240. Ali seems to have fallen for a twist on the reality that claimed the Israeli regime deliberately allowed those deaths and kidnappings for political gain. They wanted a reaction - they didn't anticipate a catastrophic reaction that threatened the regime (and still does - Netanyahu is trying to bomb himself to political safety).
And now we have Starmer backing Azhar Ali, and Louise Ellman (the Corbyn hating MP and anti-Semitism witchfinder in chief) who quit Labour then returned to be the poster girl of Starmer's Israel cheerleading purged party, defending Ali against claims of anti-Semitism.
In the background George Galloway has got Labour totally spooked - and seriously worried they will lose the bi election. It is a perfect storm of hypocrisy and incompetence from Starmer's Labour.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-win-rochdale
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JamesWales
Dealt with? He is still standing on their ticket. A racist conspiracy theorist saying Israel supported the mass murder of its own people.
And you shrug your shoulders at that, and yet go the trouble of labelling people idiots for voting for a party who's MP for confused on the statistics surrounding national debt?!
Surely if there is any logic to your thinking, and if you are happy to label others idiots for the previous example, you would do the same here?
Sludges mask has slipped even further here!
It goes without saying this blokes a complete asshole
As far as I know its too late to take him off the hustings
I really don't care , the Tories will run with it to take the heat off themselves , they really don't care about the issues behind it
He supported Louise Ellmann , a Jewish Labour party member in her fight against anti semitism so it all seems very odd
What's for certain is I know that if a racist stood on a Labour party ticket in my constituency he wouldn't get my vote
Absolutely no chance
No platform for racists
That's my mask
Is he a racist ? Well he's certainly an idiot but thats not one and the same
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The apple never falls far from the tree and he has let his mask slip, is it a widely held opinion in the Labour Party?
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jon1959
Labour have got themselves into another fine mess with this situation.
I don't know whether Azhar Ali the Labour candidate is racist - but he has swallowed and repeated a conspiracy theory. It was a conspiracy theory with (as usual for conspiracy theories) some basis in fact. It is a fact that Israeli intelligence got hold of the Hamas attack plan (via Egypt) more than a year before 7 October 2023. It is a fact that elements of the Israeli government and military have been carrying out an escalating campaign of provocation against Palestinians - including all the actions on The Dome of the Rock, ramped up settler violence against people and property on the West Bank, IDF arrests of non-violent protestors and peace activists, language of the sort described as genocidal in the recent ICJ hearings.
It is probable that elements of the Israeli regime wanted to provoke a reaction from Hamas and other Palestinian organisations to justify further ethnic cleansing and moves towards a Greater Israel (from the river to the sea!).
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/w...elligence.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/01/m...ntl/index.html
But the Israeli intelligence services (wrongly) thought Hamas was incapable of carrying out its plan, and that if it made an attempt it would fail. They certainly didn't think Hamas would kill 1200 and kidnap another 240. Ali seems to have fallen for a twist on the reality that claimed the Israeli regime deliberately allowed those deaths and kidnappings for political gain. They wanted a reaction - they didn't anticipate a catastrophic reaction that threatened the regime (and still does - Netanyahu is trying to bomb himself to political safety).
And now we have Starmer backing Azhar Ali, and Louise Ellman (the Corbyn hating MP and anti-Semitism witchfinder in chief) who quit Labour then returned to be the poster girl of Starmer's Israel cheerleading purged party, defending Ali against claims of anti-Semitism.
In the background George Galloway has got Labour totally spooked - and seriously worried they will lose the bi election. It is a perfect storm of hypocrisy and incompetence from Starmer's Labour.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-win-rochdale
Well I don't know whether this is purely a conspiracy theory or whether there may be some credence to it. I don't have access to the facts of the situation so I can't really form an opinion.
However, if we talk in pure Trumpesque transactional terms it's easy to see the value in allowing 1200 to die and 240 to be captured if it enables the slaughter of 30 times the number (and growing) along with the big prize of an ethnically cleansed territory.
War, nationalism and racism are ugly beasts and I guess none of us common people truly understand the Machiavellian properties that promote them
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It was revealed recently that the IDF had a large number of "spotters" stationed around the border where the Oct 7th attack took place. (Ref: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...-macho-chiefs/)
These spotters are mainly female army conscripts whose job is to observe what's going on near the border fence. They did reputedly report increased activity in the days before the attack, even describing simulated attacks by Palestinians against the border fence but their information was ignored. These women were unarmed and were slaughtered during the Hamas attack.
I suppose the question is, did the IDF commanders ignore the intelligence reports on purpose or as the Telegraph claims the commanders were sexist, or was there simply poor communication?
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Dorcus
Well I don't know whether this is purely a conspiracy theory or whether there may be some credence to it. I don't have access to the facts of the situation so I can't really form an opinion.
However, if we talk in pure Trumpesque transactional terms it's easy to see the value in allowing 1200 to die and 240 to be captured if it enables the slaughter of 30 times the number (and growing) along with the big prize of an ethnically cleansed territory.
War, nationalism and racism are ugly beasts and I guess none of us common people truly understand the Machiavellian properties that promote them
Irrespective of a conspiracy theory or not I am absolutely amazed at the lack of discipline in the party
What a complete bunch of puddings
The Daily Mail and its acolytes pay thousands for scoops like this
Having differing opinions is fine but babbling off like this is almost comical
Comical Ali if you like
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There is more to come from this socialist racist, which is probably why Labour have just withdrawn their support for him. This after he was backed and supported by Labour MPs
As it he will still stand as the labour representative and will probably win but just without the support of Starma
Bit of a dogs breakfast . A Labour MP, who has racist views with a boss in Starma who doesn’t want him in the party …interesting times ahead