Neil warnock "Aberdeen is my type of club"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...l/68224014.amp

Just like cardiff, QPR and about 25 others......

Still the best city manager in recent times of course but I just find it astonishing how bad most modern managers are dealing with the media when all you need to do is go in and talk about the passion of the fans, the history of the club and wanting to entertain and put smiles on faces etc and fans everywhere will lap it up, even if everyone knows you said the same thing at your previous 15 clubs. Not sure why some find this so difficult?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Not sure why some find this so difficult?

---

Media training. Saying nothing can’t backfire.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Father Dougal

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...l/68224014.amp

Just like cardiff, QPR and about 25 others......

Still the best city manager in recent times of course but I just find it astonishing how bad most modern managers are dealing with the media when all you need to do is go in and talk about the passion of the fans, the history of the club and wanting to entertain and put smiles on faces etc and fans everywhere will lap it up, even if everyone knows you said the same thing at your previous 15 clubs. Not sure why some find this so difficult?

---

Troy Deeney would have done himself a big favour had he watched some of Warnock's interviews.

Agree it is rather funny, in a cringey type of way, watching some of them.

Oozing with self-serving insincerity

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Oozing with self-serving insincerity

---

I don't think it's insincerity. He must genuinely have a passion for what he does at his age and when he could be enjoying retirement full-time. Living in Cornwall and working in Aberdeen, albeit for a few months, takes some enthusiasm when he probably doesn't need the money.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I don't think it's insincerity. He must genuinely have a passion for what he does at his age and when he could be enjoying retirement full-time. Living in Cornwall and working in Aberdeen, albeit for a few months, takes some enthusiasm when he probably doesn't need the money.

---

My kind of club = any club that will employ me and pay me handsomely - that's sincerity for you !

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

My kind of club = any club that will employ me and pay me handsomely - that's sincerity for you !

---

Paid handsomely for getting us to the PL and nearly keeping us there.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

My kind of club = any club that will employ me and pay me handsomely - that's sincerity for you !

---

For all we know, he may have declined to clubs in the past that aren't his type of club. I have been to a number of grounds as a neutral and felt a bit of an affinity as a result. How many of us will even be attending matches at his age?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Paid handsomely for getting us to the PL and nearly keeping us there.

---

And then blowing the club’s money (not his) on extremely iffy transfer deals.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

And then blowing the club’s money (not his) on extremely iffy transfer deals.

---

The 'iffy' bit is purely conjecture, developed by a handful of message board posters. The same as the bullying allegations against Steve Morison. Warnock's transfer dealings after relegation were poor, true, and he may have done a few favours, but I doubt he's any more guilty than any other manager..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

The 'iffy' bit is purely conjecture, developed by a handful of message board posters. The same as the bullying allegations against Steve Morison. Warnock's transfer dealings after relegation were poor, true, and he may have done a few favours, but I doubt he's any more guilty than any other manager..

---

You don’t reckon some of his deals were iffy??? I’ll start with the McKay brothers and Bacuna. And I don’t really care about other managers, Cardiff City managers are my concern.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

The 'iffy' bit is purely conjecture, developed by a handful of message board posters. The same as the bullying allegations against Steve Morison. Warnock's transfer dealings after relegation were poor, true, and he may have done a few favours, but I doubt he's any more guilty than any other manager..

---

Are you saying that, as a matter of principle, it's alright for any particular manager to be dishonest as long as all the other 91 are the same ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

Are you saying that, as a matter of principle, it's alright for any particular manager to be dishonest as long as all the other 91 are the same ?

---

I think that he is trying to add some context here.

To single out Warnock as being the only manager who MIGHT have done this seems a little unfair when much more successful managers than him have been known to been involved in this sort of thing (Clough, Revie, George Graham)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

I think that he is trying to add some context here.

To single out Warnock as being the only manager who MIGHT have done this seems a little unfair when much more successful managers than him have been known to been involved in this sort of thing (Clough, Revie, George Graham)

---

As SP has already pointed out the only context here is Cardiff City

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

You don’t reckon some of his deals were iffy??? I’ll start with the McKay brothers and Bacuna. And I don’t really care about other managers, Cardiff City managers are my concern.

---

Bacuna ? I'd be interested to learn about this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Bacuna ? I'd be interested to learn about this.

---

Three and a half year contract, wasn’t it? Do you reckon he was worth that commitment from the club? I noticed you swerved the McKay brothers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

Three and a half year contract, wasn’t it? Do you reckon he was worth that commitment from the club? I noticed you swerved the McKay brothers.

---

Wasn't it four and a half years ?

https://www.itv.com/news/update/2019...eandro-bacuna/

Any idea who his agent was ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

For all we know, he may have declined to clubs in the past that aren't his type of club. I have been to a number of grounds as a neutral and felt a bit of an affinity as a result. How many of us will even be attending matches at his age?

---

Pay me 25 grand per match and i'll be attending at 77 :hehe:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tuerto

Pay me 25 grand per match and i'll be attending at 77 :hehe:

---

The older you get, making the most of one's finite time becomes more and more important than just banking money.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

The older you get, making the most of one's finite time becomes more and more important than just banking money.

---

Watching live sport and getting paid. It would do for me :thumbup:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

The 'iffy' bit is purely conjecture, developed by a handful of message board posters. The same as the bullying allegations against Steve Morison. Warnock's transfer dealings after relegation were poor, true, and he may have done a few favours, but I doubt he's any more guilty than any other manager..

---

The "iffy" bit is far from just conjecture. Neil Warnock has a long record of having his transfers queried by the football authorities starting from when he was QPR manager when he arranged the transfer (through the agent Willie McKay) to bring Joey Barton from Newcastle and there were questions about whether the transfer funds were fully and properly accounted for.
Further FA enquiries followed when he was manager at Sheffield United, Crystal Palace and here at Cardiff City concerning player purchases through agencies employing his son James.
All of the above are on the public record with a bit of research so can hardly be described as conjecture.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ninian1962

The "iffy" bit is far from just conjecture. Neil Warnock has a long record of having his transfers queried by the football authorities starting from when he was QPR manager when he arranged the transfer (through the agent Willie McKay) to bring Joey Barton from Newcastle and there were questions about whether the transfer funds were fully and properly accounted for.
Further FA enquiries followed when he was manager at Sheffield United, Crystal Palace and here at Cardiff City concerning player purchases through agencies employing his son James.
All of the above are on the public record with a bit of research so can hardly be described as conjecture.

---

Don’t bring other clubs into it! You’ll ruin the argument and get told off….. ;-)

It's his way, he's a success and he means it .

The clubs he has managed are just that ( his type of club ) good support , not elite. Passionate.

Best managers we've had in a long while.

Brilliant motivator.

Good at bringing clubs and fan's together.

Great football man.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Don’t bring other clubs into it! You’ll ruin the argument and get told off….. ;-)

---

Other clubs but same manager that’s in question. Bit different from citing Clough, Graham etc, managers with no connection to the City.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

Other clubs but same manager that’s in question. Bit different from citing Clough, Graham etc, managers with no connection to the City.

---

There you go! ;-)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tuerto

Watching live sport and getting paid. It would do for me :thumbup:

---

I shall cease my positive outlook and doff my cap to your profound cynicism :-)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

Three and a half year contract, wasn’t it? Do you reckon he was worth that commitment from the club? I noticed you swerved the McKay brothers.

---

Reading signed him on a 4yr deal from Aston Villa, and we did pretty much the same from Reading. He played 111 times for us. You can argue about the merits of the deal but as I asked, how was it 'iffy' ? The McKay bros if I remember rightly were never in the squad.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Reading signed him on a 4yr deal from Aston Villa, and we did pretty much the same from Reading. He played 111 times for us. You can argue about the merits of the deal but as I asked, how was it 'iffy' ? The McKay bros if I remember rightly were never in the squad.

---

‘Never in the squad’, the decision to take them on makes that even more iffy. As I’ve alluded to, I don’t particularly care about other
clubs actions, so Reading’s dealings don’t interest me. Warnock had a a ‘parachute payment’ war chest which he pissed up the wall with inferior signings, signings which may have financially benefited him, allegedly, I say ‘allegedly’ but it can’t be denied that he has a chequered history in the murky financial football world.

Relegated clubs hope that parachute payments aid their aim of an immediate Premier League return and new players on longish contracts will play a part in both promotion and consolidation. Do you reckon the likes of Bacuna were signed with that in mind? And the McKay brothers….I despair, there was an ulterior motive in Warnock’s personal favour that prompted that deal in my opinion. The McKay connection certainly didn’t end well, unfortunately.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Reading signed him on a 4yr deal from Aston Villa, and we did pretty much the same from Reading. He played 111 times for us. You can argue about the merits of the deal but as I asked, how was it 'iffy' ? The McKay bros if I remember rightly were never in the squad.

---

No-one seems to have mentioned who Bacuna's agent was

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

No-one seems to have mentioned who Bacuna's agent was

---

Or which agent Joe Ralls and Sean Morrison were persuaded to move to

Junior Hoilett just signed for the dons

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by splott parker

Three and a half year contract, wasn’t it? Do you reckon he was worth that commitment from the club? I noticed you swerved the McKay brothers.

---

Bacuna was an awful player

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927

Bacuna was an awful player

---

A very, very lucky man. Gained several lucrative long term contracts throughout his career which his abilty clearly did not warrant.

I dont know what cut his agent got but he earned every single penny of it. He had Reading and Cardiffs pants down.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rjk

Junior Hoilett just signed for the dons

---

Good luck to him. He was a very good signing for us, as was Sol Bamba.

The vast majority of the rest of Colin`s signings for us were far less good and/or dubious in their nature.