17 points from 17 games, failed to score in 10 of the last 18

Playoffs here we come!! Can't wait!!

Oh fecking hell the harvester of sorrow has awoken 😂

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Oh fecking hell the harvester of sorrow has awoken ��

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Give me some positivity then, other than at least it's not as bad as last season.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Give me some positivity then, other than at least it's not as bad as last season.

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Well I really don't see the point of responding to this as its a comedy thread

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Give me some positivity then, other than at least it's not as bad as last season.

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Statistically or on the eye? On the eye, it looks shite. Over to you re. the stats Eric!

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well I really don't see the point of responding to this as its a comedy thread

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I'm all ears. Stop slagging people off and give us some positivity.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Give me some positivity then, other than at least it's not as bad as last season.

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We probably can’t go down, and Aaron Ramsey is playing for us. That’s the positivity done.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We probably can’t go down, and Aaron Ramsey is playing for us. That’s the positivity done.

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I was hopeful of this season being a bit of a building season, where we could lay some foundations for next season, the one after etc. I'm fearing another rebuild this summer from another new manager. However, can anyone say Bulut deserves another season? Not after the January transfer window and the way we're playing.

Would have been nice to have more points and goals but the most disappointing thing is the utter rubbish that as been served up. The way we are playing we'd struggle in League 2

Perhaps the recurring theme is buy shit, remain shit
Or rather take other clubs shit that no other clubs want.
Eventually this ownership will take us down

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'm all ears. Stop slagging people off and give us some positivity.

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Steve cooper?

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Originally Posted by goats

Steve cooper?

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Given the noises that Bulut has been making lately, if he were to leave at the end of the season, I'd say the idea that the owner at Cardiff City is a difficult guy to work with would only grow and the quality of manager interested in coming here would suffer. Regarding Steve Cooper, there'd be a very slight chance of him coming here I suppose because of his father's connection to the club and I believe Steve is a City fan - would that be enough for him to accept what would be a huge challenge (as well as working for Vincent Tan) and come here? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Given the noises that Bulut has been making lately, if he were to leave at the end of the season, I'd say the idea that the owner at Cardiff City is a difficult guy to work with would only grow and the quality of manager interested in coming here would suffer. Regarding Steve Cooper, there'd be a very slight chance of him coming here I suppose because of his father's connection to the club and I believe Steve is a City fan - would that be enough for him to accept what would be a huge challenge (as well as working for Vincent Tan) and come here? I doubt it.

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More chance of Tan giving Ramsey a player-manager job. The new Michael Carrick!

(I’m not advocating that.)

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Given the noises that Bulut has been making lately, if he were to leave at the end of the season, I'd say the idea that the owner at Cardiff City is a difficult guy to work with would only grow and the quality of manager interested in coming here would suffer. Regarding Steve Cooper, there'd be a very slight chance of him coming here I suppose because of his father's connection to the club and I believe Steve is a City fan - would that be enough for him to accept what would be a huge challenge (as well as working for Vincent Tan) and come here? I doubt it.

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If Joey Barton hadn't had gone on his latest misogynist outbursts I'd have enjoyed a few months of the sheer carnage and possible punch up with Vinny....but to be serious....I totally agree with your post.

And, if we're playing Fantasy Football Managers....Emma Hayes before she took the USA job would also have been....interesting.

Edit: f*ck it! Let's get Jose.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

More chance of Tan giving Ramsey a player-manager job. The new Michael Carrick!

(I’m not advocating that.)

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Pompey away next season....is that a positive? Maybe Stevenage.
Meanwhile, we are very much in the Doldrums. In sight of land but never quite getting there, going round in circles and bailing out a slow leak to keep afloat. Little or no wind in the sails.

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Originally Posted by IanD

Pompey away next season....is that a positive? Maybe Stevenage.
Meanwhile, we are very much in the Doldrums. In sight of land but never quite getting there, going round in circles and bailing out a slow leak to keep afloat. Little or no wind in the sails.

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It's like reading Moby Dick Ian! Love it. Great post. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Playoffs here we come!! Can't wait!!

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I’m pretty sure staying up was the target. Playoffs was always massively unlikely without expensive recruitment in January and even then still unlikely.

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I'm all ears. Stop slagging people off and give us some positivity.

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Put a sock in it

You are hovering over the keyboard almost willing bad results

You are like the grim reaper week in week out

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I’m pretty sure staying up was the target. Playoffs was always massively unlikely without expensive recruitment in January and even then still unlikely.

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It's very very disappointing that we are not top ten as we looked the part but this is football

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Put a sock in it

You are hovering over the keyboard almost willing bad results

You are like the grim reaper week in week out

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Still got no positivity? Quit the personal stuff, it's not a good look. If that's all you've got left to try, best to give up.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Still got no positivity? Quit the personal stuff, it's not a good look. If that's all you've got left to try, best to give up.

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Naff off Eric you precious tart

Im going to name a positive from this season, Rambo has inspired youngsters, I mentioned in another post, the mascots on Saturday, they either had Perry or Rambo as fav players ( with the higher % naming Rambo )

thats got to be a good thing

the start of the season had a pretty good feel good factor with it, yes its gone off the rails a little recently, but we all experienced it

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Im going to name a positive from this season, Rambo has inspired youngsters, I mentioned in another post, the mascots on Saturday, they either had Perry or Rambo as fav players ( with the higher % naming Rambo )

thats got to be a good thing

the start of the season had a pretty good feel good factor with it, yes its gone off the rails a little recently, but we all experienced it

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When I first read that I thought how old were some of the mascots then I realised you meant Ng not Jason

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

When I first read that I thought how old were some of the mascots then I realised you meant Ng not Jason

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funny thing is, I always call him NG :hehe: I must have been feeling nice and calling him by his 1st name

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Put a sock in it

You are hovering over the keyboard almost willing bad results

You are like the grim reaper week in week out

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The problem is Sludge, Eric is only pointing out the facts. Bulut’s standing was very high at the end of October and rightfully so, but things have moved on and we’ve now been in crap form for this season for longer than we were doing well. For me, from, say, late November onwards there’s been little difference between this season and the last one - one difference mind is that Hudson and Lamouchi were less willing to throw others under the bus than Bulut is (he’s in the Steve Morison school in that respect).

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Im going to name a positive from this season, Rambo has inspired youngsters, I mentioned in another post, the mascots on Saturday, they either had Perry or Rambo as fav players ( with the higher % naming Rambo )

thats got to be a good thing

the start of the season had a pretty good feel good factor with it, yes its gone off the rails a little recently, but we all experienced it

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That’s a fair point, but I do wonder how many youngsters who were enthused by the 2018 promotion and were coming to every game at the time are still doing so now. I don’t think my love for City would have survived three and a half seasons of the garbage we’ve seen at Cardiff City Stadium lately if the same thing had happened in the late sixties.

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That’s a fair point, but I do wonder how many youngsters who were enthused by the 2018 promotion and were coming to every game at the time are still doing so now. I don’t think my love for City would have survived three and a half seasons of the garbage we’ve seen at Cardiff City Stadium lately if the same thing had happened in the late sixties.

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The point about youngsters being enthused this season is more than valid, my 10 year old has loved seeing Ramsey play for City, the early season also had Tanner banging in a goal against ‘them’ and Colwill showing some spontaneity and skill against those weird, Wurzel creatures from the other side of the bridge. Since then it’s been dire and no Ramsey. As much as my kid was enthusiastic the Leicester and Leeds matches at home have killed it. He may have been influenced by others in the ground here but abject surrender as a strategy isn’t enticing anyone through the gate. Last weekend he was given the opportunity of watching the Preston game and opted for a South Wales Alliance league game and going out with his mates. Says it all really. He’s stopped moithering about going to watch City and if I’m honest I’m not pushing it either as I’m now more a paying customer than stalwart supporter and not arsed about watching the crap being served up.

Early Erol had structure and some patterns of play. Siopis played like someone with ADHD and on times City actually looked like they were in danger of being a competitive, decent side to watch. I did have doubts about Erol’s game management after Ipswich away but for me he’s incapable of learning from any mistakes and seems far too passive in tactics.

I’d give Bulut to the end of the season but don’t think for one moment he has any intentions to stay nor City have any intention of extending his contract?

What City do then is anyone’s guess but there’ll be no Ramsey like signing to ignite any interest and it could be like Groundhog Day, City style?

God forbid, Ramsey retires.

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The problem is Sludge, Eric is only pointing out the facts. Bulut’s standing was very high at the end of October and rightfully so, but things have moved on and we’ve now been in crap form for this season for longer than we were doing well. For me, from, say, late November onwards there’s been little difference between this season and the last one - one difference mind is that Hudson and Lamouchi were less willing to throw others under the bus than Bulut is (he’s in the Steve Morison school in that respect).

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I do wonder if his Morisson like outbursts have affected the players. Bulut seems completely incapable of getting us out of this mess. The line up against West Brom was quite different and promising compared to his usual starting 11 but is he really capable of finding a formula that improves our play, goal scoring opportunities, goals and points. I'm starting to have severe doubts.

2 wins from safety…..chill TF out everyone!

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I do wonder if his Morisson like outbursts have affected the players. Bulut seems completely incapable of getting us out of this mess. The line up against West Brom was quite different and promising compared to his usual starting 11 but is he really capable of finding a formula that improves our play, goal scoring opportunities, goals and points. I'm starting to have severe doubts.

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It's hardly buluts fault if the players concede a goal after 45 seconds

Until that second goal we could have claimed a point with a decent striker

He asked for help from the board but they have clearly not delivered

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Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue

2 wins from safety…..chill TF out everyone!

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I despair at times , it's whinge whinge whinge

If we won the champions league people would complain about the possession stats

I enjoyed every home game as its better than sitting on a couch and writing expert reviews .

Ramsey as a manager could be an option as he ain't going to get much game time (good 25k per week gig that one )

If anything has done us in its the Sala transfer fee , lack of incomming revenue, whilst that exists FFP will kick us and any manager up the arse .

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It's hardly buluts fault if the players concede a goal after 45 seconds

Until that second goal we could have claimed a point with a decent striker

He asked for help from the board but they have clearly not delivered

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Bournemouth wanted too much wage cover so sense prevailed and he's now kissing the Tractor Boys badge .

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It's hardly buluts fault if the players concede a goal after 45 seconds

Until that second goal we could have claimed a point with a decent striker

He asked for help from the board but they have clearly not delivered

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Don't get me started on the incompetence of the board

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Until that second goal we could have claimed a point with a decent striker

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Or West Brom could still have scored a second, perhaps we'd have got a winner, if my aunty had bollocks she'd have been my uncle when she was younger.

Players miss chances. It's part of the game. Players miss far easier chances than Etete missed on Tuesday. We've had players miss far easier chances against us and we've benefitted as a result. All part of the game. Not at any time have I looked to blame Etete for our result on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I despair at times , it's whinge whinge whinge

If we won the champions league people would complain about the possession stats

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Do you think we are getting better or worse? Do you think if this trend continues that we will struggle next season?

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It's hardly buluts fault if the players concede a goal after 45 seconds

Until that second goal we could have claimed a point with a decent striker

He asked for help from the board but they have clearly not delivered

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This infuriates me. Nobody gets help from the board at this level. WBA haven't spent a penny under Corberan. Bulut's job is to get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. Managers of other clubs develop their players, ours are shit and stay that way.

Re we haven't got a striker, nobody has a bloody striker. The top scoring centre forward in the Championship is Ryan Hardie with 11. That's why half the division was linked with Moore. 20 goal a season, 6'4 centre forwards don't grow on trees. If we are relying on us to sign one, we'll be waiting an awfully long time.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

The top scoring centre forward in the Championship is Ryan Hardie with 11. me.

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Thats an interesting stat. goes to show how the game has evolved, and in some ways not for the better for me. Yes we dont want to see hoofball but strikers seemed to be judged as much as what they do without the ball and their ability to press.etc as they do with the ball these days. Give me a greedy, selfish, confident striker any day.

Even some of the top scorers in the Prem are not what I would call natural finishers and the out and out centre forward seems to by a dying breed these days.

Go back 25-30 years and the English national team alone had the pick of Shearer, Sheringham, Wright, Ferdinand, Fowler, Cole, Michael Owen just burst onto the scene. Now you would be hard pressed to pick 5 out and out strikers in the Premier League of any nationality.

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Thats an interesting stat. goes to show how the game has evolved, and in some ways not for the better for me. Yes we dont want to see hoofball but strikers seemed to be judged as much as what they do without the ball and their ability to press.etc as they do with the ball these days.

Even some of the top scorers in the Prem are not what I would call natural finishers and the out and out centre forward seems to by a dying breed these days.

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Armstrong has 16 but he's played behind a centre forward and on both wings, and he's about 5'6. Whittaker, Szmodics, Summerville, Clarke and Rowe have more goals than Hardie, and they're all wingers or attacking midfielders.

I agree with you, God knows where someone like Earnie or Chopra would play now, maybe off the left wing. Strikers will come back into fashion at some point but at present, they don't fit the ultra possession snooze fests that so many managers like to use. NB, possession football can be very, very good but most managers aren't good enough to implement it.