If Bulut left, which of these available manager would you choose?

The list is not too bad actually. Assume buying out an existing coach is not an option, and paying off Bulut is viable. Which body would you drag through the doors next (that are realistic)?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trai...iner/statistik

For me, Graham Potter, Steve Cooper or Michael Beale. All three have:

1. Excellent connections to the FA and / or clubs with good academies - good for loans and recruitment
2. All three have good playing styles, and had success with it in this division or above
3. All have had success in implementing good styles.
4. All are familiar with good structures, data and performance analysis, and have the right network of people to draw on
in those coaching circles if they need further help
5. All familiar with demands of football and opponents in this division and above

None are without risk but all have the above merits. Those are my calls from the available list.

We’d never get the first two and Beale, God no.

Potter and Cooper certainly, but realistically would they come here?

Not sure on Beale, did well at QPR used them, and not so good at Rangers and poor at Sunderland, not sure he is better than what we have.

I wouldn't trust Tan and Dalman to get anyone better than Bulut but time will tell?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We’d never get the first two and Beale, God no.

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I didn't like Beale when he was flavour of the month at QPR. Like him much less since then.

If Bulut goes we need a manager who is both a coach and tactician, and someone who can manage upwards to Vincent Tan. A hard ask even for experienced managers.

Cooper and Potter will be looking further up the food chain.

We should be looking at someone like Kieran McKenna when he joined Ipswich - someone who is part of a high quality coaching team in a top league, who is ambitious and astute, who works well with developing youth players. I don't care if i have never herd his (or her!) name before. And bring in an experienced older head alongside. And a Director of Football!

Or Craig Bellamy.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I didn't like Beale when he was flavour of the month at QPR. Like him much less since then.

If Bulut goes we need a manager who is both a coach and tactician, and someone who can manage upwards to Vincent Tan. A hard ask even for experienced managers.

Cooper and Potter will be looking further up the food chain.

We should be looking at someone like Kieran McKenna when he joined Ipswich - someone who is part of a high quality coaching team in a top league, who is ambitious and astute, who works well with developing youth players. I don't care if i have never herd his (or her!) name before. And bring in an experienced older head alongside. And a Director of Football!

Or Craig Bellamy.

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We desperately need a coach. That has to be the number one requirement, can they improve the players we have. Morison, Hudson and Bulut have failed miserably in that. I think Lamouchi did to a degree with Philogene etc.

I would like to see us go for someone like Evatt at Bolton, or Mousinho at Pompey. Whether the latter would come, I'm not sure but Schumacher left Plymouth for Stoke so maybe he would. I think it is too much of a risk but Pete Wild has done brilliant jobs everywhere he's been. Barrow to Cardiff is a massive, massive jump though so I wouldn't pull the trigger.

If Wednesday go down, Danny Rohl?

Edit: If they stay up I assume he'd stay. They've been described as a L1 team but seem to have improved under him. He's 34 and was part of the Bayern and Germany coaching team.

Very early days but Michael Skubala has done an incredible job at Lincoln. They are flying.

I wanted Beale here back in the summer of 2022, that was a mistake - he might be a good coach, but he’s not made a good job of the jump to manager and he comes over as not a very nice human being. I’d be happy with one of Cooper or Potter mind, but it’s not going to happen is it.

In what world would Graham Potter come here

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

In what world would Graham Potter come here

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1. He has been out of work for a while.
2. His last job didn’t cover him in glory (although I blame the owner)
3. Nobody is else is in for him recently
4. He loves a project, where he can implement structures data and coach philosophies
5. He is a coach that has operated in lower tier of Pl and upper Championship

It’s not an unrealistic bid. The money might be a sticking point but you offer a chunk of promotion earnings as the upside.

Frig me Beale would be an appalling appointment.

Can we just stick with Bulet?

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

Frig me Beale would be an appalling appointment.

Can we just stick with Bulet?

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I want to enjoy the football again, and that hasn't been the case for a good few years now.

I'd go for Steve Cooper. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they were already talking to him. Problem is, what would the fans think, if he was appointed?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We’d never get the first two and Beale, God no.

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That.

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

Frig me Beale would be an appalling appointment.

Can we just stick with Bulet?

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rather see the tea lady on the touchline. Are you a cricket supporter by any chance? i watch football to be entertained

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Originally Posted by tforturton

I'd go for Steve Cooper. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they were already talking to him. Problem is, what would the fans think, if he was appointed?

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Cooper’s a City fan, his Swansea history wouldn’t bother me in the slightest - the same would apply with Potter. They’re both good managers and, maybe more importantly, coaches- I’d say Cooper in particular has a history of improving players as well. However, as I said earlier, I’d say our chances of getting either of them are negligible - even if we were willing to pay them what they wanted, there’s the would you work for Vincent Tan factor to be considered.

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Originally Posted by Blooburd

rather see the tea lady on the touchline. Are you a cricket supporter by any chance? i watch football to be entertained

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And where has Beale done that.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

I'd go for Steve Cooper. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they were already talking to him. Problem is, what would the fans think, if he was appointed?

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Cooper is a Cardiff City fan. So was his father Keith Cooper the ex-referee. There is no conflict of interest here. Interests would be well and truly aligned. Cooper has a massive motivation to come here that perhaps only the likes of Nathan Jones, Tony Pulis and Craig Bellamy would have. Except Cooper is quality.

The chance to take your own club up to the Premiership? I bet my house Coops would be interested and I’d take him in a heartbeat.

Cooper. Forest are idiots.

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Cooper is a Cardiff City fan. So was his father Keith Cooper the ex-referee. There is no conflict of interest here. Interests would be well and truly aligned. Cooper has a massive motivation to come here that perhaps only the likes of Nathan Jones, Tony Pulis and Craig Bellamy would have. Except Cooper is quality.

The chance to take your own club up to the Premiership? I bet my house Coops would be interested and I’d take him in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We desperately need a coach. That has to be the number one requirement, can they improve the players we have. Morison, Hudson and Bulut have failed miserably in that. I think Lamouchi did to a degree with Philogene etc.

I would like to see us go for someone like Evatt at Bolton, or Mousinho at Pompey. Whether the latter would come, I'm not sure but Schumacher left Plymouth for Stoke so maybe he would. I think it is too much of a risk but Pete Wild has done brilliant jobs everywhere he's been. Barrow to Cardiff is a massive, massive jump though so I wouldn't pull the trigger.

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Maybe he's really into bluebirds?

No chance we'd get Potter, he'll be lined up for the England job I suspect

Cooper maybe an outside bet, I can't see him getting another Premier League job or one of the relegated clubs going for him. Once you discount clubs with parachute payments we're probably one of the more attractive Championship clubs

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I wanted Beale here back in the summer of 2022, that was a mistake - he might be a good coach, but he’s not made a good job of the jump to manager and he comes over as not a very nice human being. I’d be happy with one of Cooper or Potter mind, but it’s not going to happen is it.

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I would agree Bob that out of the three, Beale is the weakest candidate. It it were Beale or Bulut I think it is neck a neck, but Beale would at least improve the style and be good at sourcing and improving youngsters: the edge over Bulut.

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

The list is not too bad actually. Assume buying out an existing coach is not an option, and paying off Bulut is viable. Which body would you drag through the doors next (that are realistic)?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trai...iner/statistik

For me, Graham Potter, Steve Cooper or Michael Beale. All three have:

1. Excellent connections to the FA and / or clubs with good academies - good for loans and recruitment
2. All three have good playing styles, and had success with it in this division or above
3. All have had success in implementing good styles.
4. All are familiar with good structures, data and performance analysis, and have the right network of people to draw on
in those coaching circles if they need further help
5. All familiar with demands of football and opponents in this division and above

None are without risk but all have the above merits. Those are my calls from the available list.

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Cooper but it will never happen so this thread is a bit pointless.

Luton get relegated, sack Rob Edwards & we snap him up. Simple. :hide:

For those wanting Cooper, how do you square that with spending £275million on 46 players in 3 windows?

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

For those wanting Cooper, how do you square that with spending £275million on 46 players in 3 windows?

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What’s there to square? That was the crazy owners doing. Cooper did not want to go sign so many players.

Potter :hehe:

Lay off the mushrooms Soze :hehe:

Ya pissing in the wind

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Luton get relegated, sack Rob Edwards & we snap him up. Simple. :hide:

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He was available when we were looking for a manager and next to no one wanted him on here.

Coopers next job will be the Wales one

Turkey teeth Klopp is available at the end of the season. F*ck me his moaning is getting unbearable at the moment, imagine him managing us!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Turkey teeth Klopp is available at the end of the season. F*ck me his moaning is getting unbearable at the moment, imagine him managing us!!!!!!!!!

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Quite right, old timer.

I have had a laugh at some of the comments. Been a great discussion in the round and see fans opinions. Some have some reflected well on my three choices. Bob Wilson as always putting great thought into it. Some agreed and some disagreed in reasonable ways.

But I think only one or two followed the original question, which was to generate their own ideas of their from the Transfmrkt link of free and available coaches, and why they would choose them. Pedro De La Rosa wins for creative choices from left field.

But JR Hartley, where do I start? You always give me a good laugh. But all you have done here is have a go at others for their opinions. It’s like someone from the 1970s knocking the doors in your street with a free offer for underwear with the Grattan catalogues. “Have a look and let me know what you want.” the man says and leaves you with a catalogue. The neighbours choose their free underwear. Meanwhile JR Hartley, instead of choosing a pair of his own, opts to run around banging his neighbours front doors abusing them for their personal choice of knickers and Y-Fronts, while the deal expires.

Come on grandpa, click the link and make some choices. Stop ducking it. All I did was try a mushroom - you’re hogging the whole field of them 😂 🍄🍄🍄