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FT: ROTHERHAM UTD 5 - 2 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
	
	
		Saturday 4th May, ko 12:30pm
Match Officials:
Referee: ANDY DAVIES
Assistants: Graham Kane and Bhupinder Singh Gill
Fourth Official : Thomas Parsons
	 
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		Last six games - Win - lose - Win - lose -Win- lose - We are due a win
	 
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Rjk
				
			 
			play the kids
			
		
	 
 I would like to see Ashford Conte and Giles start.
	 
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North Cardiff Blue
				
			 
			Last six games - Win - lose - Win - lose -Win- lose - We are due a win
			
		
	 
 hope so i want to finish 9'th spot
	 
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		In what has been a remarkable season statistically, there are 3 possible outcomes with us on 19 wins, 5 draws and 21 defeats.
1) We lose and become only the second side in league history to win 19 and lose 22 games in a season.
2) We draw and become only the 8th side in league history to win 19 and lose 21 games in a season.
3) We win and become the first side in league history to win 20 and lose 21 games in a season.
	 
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Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			In what has been a remarkable season statistically, there are 3 possible outcomes with us on 19 wins, 5 draws and 21 defeats.
1) We lose and become only the second side in league history to win 19 and lose 22 games in a season.
2) We draw and become only the 8th side in league history to win 19 and lose 21 games in a season.
3) We win and become the first side in league history to win 20 and lose 21 games in a season.
			
		
	 
 How the hell did you work that out?
	 
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Former Labour leader
				
			 
			How the hell did you work that out?
			
		
	 
 Microsoft Excel and a spreadsheet of all league tables. 2 minute job.
	 
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Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			Microsoft Excel and a spreadsheet of all league tables. 2 minute job.
			
		
	 
 Thanks.
Must have taken you ages to input all that data.
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			In what has been a remarkable season statistically, there are 3 possible outcomes with us on 19 wins, 5 draws and 21 defeats.
1) We lose and become only the second side in league history to win 19 and lose 22 games in a season.
2) We draw and become only the 8th side in league history to win 19 and lose 21 games in a season.
3) We win and become the first side in league history to win 20 and lose 21 games in a season.
			
		
	 
 Has there been any other occurrences other than ourselves this season, of a team finishing in the top half and losing more games than a team who has been relegated in the same season. We currently have lost 3 more than Huddersfield. I can't imagine that's happened too many times.
	 
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		Just proves that draws aren't worthy.
	 
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kendoddsdadsdogsdead
				
			 
			Just proves that draws aren't worthy.
			
		
	 
 Three points for a win instead of two is the reason for that.
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			In what has been a remarkable season statistically, there are 3 possible outcomes with us on 19 wins, 5 draws and 21 defeats.
1) We lose and become only the second side in league history to win 19 and lose 22 games in a season.
2) We draw and become only the 8th side in league history to win 19 and lose 21 games in a season.
3) We win and become the first side in league history to win 20 and lose 21 games in a season.
			
		
	 
 Eric, you're like a little  ray of sunlight through the storm clouds, honest you are!!!!
	 
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Der Kaiser
				
			 
			Has there been any other occurrences other than ourselves this season, of a team finishing in the top half and losing more games than a team who has been relegated in the same season. We currently have lost 3 more than Huddersfield. I can't imagine that's happened too many times.
			
		
	 
 You'll set him off again!
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Der Kaiser
				
			 
			Has there been any other occurrences other than ourselves this season, of a team finishing in the top half and losing more games than a team who has been relegated in the same season. We currently have lost 3 more than Huddersfield. I can't imagine that's happened too many times.
			
		
	 
 In divisions of 20 or more teams, it has happened 23 times in league history.
The joint largest is 3, in the Third Division in 1982/83. Reading were relegated with 17 defeats (only 5 at home) while Sheffield United finished 11th with 20 defeats (and 19 wins).
It has only happened in the second tier on 5 occasions, with 4 of those being a difference of one less defeat for a relegated side and one of 2. If neither or both us and Huddersfield lose, it would be a new record for the second tier.
	 
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Former Labour leader
				
			 
			Thanks.
Must have taken you ages to input all that data.
			
		
	 
 It was a lockdown project. Copy and paste from a decent source.
	 
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Re: ROTHERHAM UTD v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
	
	
		<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get your tickets for our final fixture of the campaign! ️<br><br>On sale from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CardiffCity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Car  diffCity</a> Ticket Office until 5pm tomorrow, and also available at the AESSEAL New York Stadium on matchday. ️<br><br>Got your costumes sorted for the trip to Rotherham, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluebirds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blueb  irds</a>? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA  sOne</a></p>— Cardiff City FC (@CardiffCityFC) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/status/1785700713890213904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
	 
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MOZZER2
				
			 
			<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get your tickets for our final fixture of the campaign! ��️<br><br>On sale from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CardiffCity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Car  diffCity</a> Ticket Office until 5pm tomorrow, and also available at the AESSEAL New York Stadium on matchday. ��️<br><br>Got your costumes sorted for the trip to Rotherham, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluebirds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blueb  irds</a>? ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA  sOne</a></p>— Cardiff City FC (@CardiffCityFC) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/status/1785700713890213904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
			
		
	 
 I'm going fancy dress as Aaron ramsey. I'm going to make a real effort so that people know who i have gone as, down to the smallest detail. I'll be wearing a pair of trousers, socks, pants, T-shirt, jacket and a pair of daps.
	 
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		i guess i will be going in my usual attire
no 1 haircut ,Sham 69 t shirt , braces and Brogues
there s gonna be a borstal breakout  ....................
	 
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Tuerto
				
			 
			I'm going fancy dress as Aaron ramsey. I'm going to make a real effort so that people know who i have gone as, down to the smallest detail. I'll be wearing a pair of trousers, socks, pants, T-shirt, jacket and a pair of daps.
			
		
	 
 Hmm... you might easily get mistaken for Callum O'Dowda.
	 
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MOZZER2
				
			 
			i guess i will be going in my usual attire
no 1 haircut ,Sham 69 t shirt , braces and Brogues
there s gonna be a borstal breakout  ....................
			
		
	 
 Corduroys too Mozz shirley, or are they just when you wear your DM's?
	 
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MacAdder
				
			 
			Corduroys too Mozz shirley, or are they just when you wear your DM's?
			
		
	 
 nah far too up market for us ruffians out in the east of the city !
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Millers head into Saturday's fixture without a win in their last five fixtures. <br><br>Read more in our Match Preview ⬇️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA  sOne</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/SpreadexSport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SpreadexSport</a></p>— Cardiff City FC (@CardiffCityFC) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/status/1785942304584253699?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
	 
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		Rotherham haven't scored in their last 5 games.
Their goalie, playing his last match for them, is paying for a pint for the first 600 customers in a pub in the town on Saturday.
	 
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MOZZER2
				
			 
			nah far too up market for us ruffians out in the east of the city !
			
		
	 
 Whooosh? Shirley not 🤔 
https://youtu.be/LZZbi3IfCHI?si=Nw3Jo51uG6QogoJi
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Undercoverinwurzelland
				
			 
			Rotherham haven't scored in their last 5 games.
Their goalie, playing his last match for them, is paying for a pint for the first 600 customers in a pub in the town on Saturday.
			
		
	 
 3-0 them, then....
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			In what has been a remarkable season statistically, there are 3 possible outcomes with us on 19 wins, 5 draws and 21 defeats.
1) We lose and become only the second side in league history to win 19 and lose 22 games in a season.
2) We draw and become only the 8th side in league history to win 19 and lose 21 games in a season.
3) We win and become the first side in league history to win 20 and lose 21 games in a season.
			
		
	 
 No one cares bar civil servants and accountants. 
It's where we finish and how many we win :thumbup:
	 
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North Cardiff Blue
				
			 
			It's where we finish and how many we win
			
		
	 
 In reality the finishing position doesn't matter if it's anywhere from 7th to 21st. The outcome is the same - more Championship football next season.
	 
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North Cardiff Blue
				
			 
			No one cares bar civil servants and accountants. 
It's where we finish and how many we win :thumbup:
			
		
	 
 I think stats are interesting, as you must surely guess. 
Does it not bother you that we could, potentially, be the first side in the history of the second tier to finish in the top half, yet lose 3 more games than a side that gets relegated?
	 
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The Lone Gunman
				
			 
			In reality the finishing position doesn't matter if it's anywhere from 7th to 21st. The outcome is the same - more Championship football next season.
			
		
	 
 Factually, correct, but I'm sure if you're being honest and not just pendatic you prefer finishing 7th in the season than 21st, for obvious reasons.
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
Eric the Half a Bee
				
			 
			I think stats are interesting, as you must surely guess. 
Does it not bother you that we could, potentially, be the first side in the history of the second tier to finish in the top half, yet lose 3 more games than a side that gets relegated?
			
		
	 
 Not really, but fair enough I get the point :thumbup:
I need to see better football next season, it's been hard work at times.
	 
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		What is the injured/unavailable situation for Rotherham? If I understood Bulut right in his pre-match press conference it is:
Jak Alnwick, Mark McGuinness, Perry Ng, Josh Wilson-Esbrand, Aaron Ramsey, Rubin Colwill, Kion Etete, Yakou Meite, Karlan Grant and maybe Jamilu Collins - with Callum O'Dowda probably fit for a bench place.
I expect a similar starting line up to the Boro game - and similar substitutions. Maybe Conte to start in place of Romeo?
	 
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North Cardiff Blue
				
			 
			Factually, correct, but I'm sure if you're being honest and not just pendatic you prefer finishing 7th in the season than 21st, for obvious reasons.
			
		
	 
 Well I haven’t preferred this season to last season. It’s been incredibly tedious. We’ve known for many months that we had no chance of going up and no chance of going down either, but the manager has nevertheless persisted with his sterile, unadventurous tactics throughout. With the exception of the occasional five-minute spell here and there, City’s football has bored me rigid. 
The genuine threat of relegation kept last season interesting, at least to a degree. This season has been like watching wood warp for six long months.
As Captain Sensible so wisely said, glad it’s all over. Or at least it will be by 3pm tomorrow.
	 
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		Please, not an 'on the beach' performance from City, though I can perfectly understand one from relegated Rotherham. Also the difference between finishing 12th or up to a possible 9th place..
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
jon1959
				
			 
			What is the injured/unavailable situation for Rotherham? If I understood Bulut right in his pre-match press conference it is:
Jak Alnwick, Mark McGuinness, Perry Ng, Josh Wilson-Esbrand, Aaron Ramsey, Rubin Colwill, Kion Etete, Yakou Meite, Karlan Grant and maybe Jamilu Collins - with Callum O'Dowda probably fit for a bench place.
I expect a similar starting line up to the Boro game - and similar substitutions. Maybe Conte to start in place of Romeo?
			
		
	 
 I don't really see the point potentially risking O'Dowda given his injury record, I think Bulut alluded to that as well in his press conference
With nothing being on this game for either team I wonder if Erol will go for a cup style performance
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
City123
				
			 
			I don't really see the point potentially risking O'Dowda given his injury record, I think Bulut alluded to that as well in his press conference
With nothing being on this game for either team I wonder if Erol will go for a cup style performance
			
		
	 
 Not the South Yorkshire Cup result this season though, hopefully.
	 
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				Originally Posted by 
MOZZER2
				
			 
			i guess i will be going in my usual attire
no 1 haircut ,Sham 69 t shirt , braces and Brogues
there s gonna be a borstal breakout  ....................
			
		
	 
 "laced up boots and corduroys"
	 
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Chris Pontprennau Blues
				
			 
			"laced up boots and corduroys"
			
		
	 
 I quite liked the version that we would sing at other fans. 
For example: 
 "Bristol boys, Bristol boys, laced up slippers and Tonka toys"! :hehe:
	 
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Chris Pontprennau Blues
				
			 
			"laced up boots and corduroys"
			
		
	 
 still going strong and off to see them again in August and just to get me pumped up for tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZIiR80kHE0
they call us the cockney cowboys .............:thumbup:
	 
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		Wonder if it will be a,record breaking 22nd consecutive 1 goal win?
Wouldn't be surprised